General Reports

[TailGunner1]

There is nothing wrong with having a good working relationship with these girls. In fact that can often enhance your fun as well as get you service at a lower rate than the asshole seeing her right after you. They prefer a stable repeat customer who always shows up freshly groomed and washed. You are an easier low drama call for them and they want you to see them regularly. This leads to a nice relaxed call that is like seeing a girlfriend. Time limits are rarely enforced and they will take a lower rate in order to have your safe repeat business. If you are at least somewhat good looking you are probably going to have an even better time with literally no limits. If you are a 400 lb dude who looks like a troll living under a bridge all is not lost. You too can enjoy this enhanced experience if you show up acting normal, groomed, washed and not dressed in dirty sweats.

The smart monger gets all these things. The stupid monger pays more for less. A stupid monger can be transformed which is one of the reasons I make these posts. I don't know any of you and in all honesty could really care less about you. But I don't like seeing how some of you are taken advantage of by these girls mostly because you do all the wrong things.

As I said, a good working relationship with these girls is a positive that will help you. But far too many guys go way too far all for nothing and usually end up paying more for worse service. You are not playing the girl. She is playing you. Remember, these girls DO NOT care about you. They care about their drugs, newports and their bum boyfriend. They do not live in the same world as you. I don't care what story they give you. You are just dollar signs in there eyes. They should only be cheap pussy in your eyes and at best you should only be a safe, reliable and maybe, fun call for them. This is the order of things and it all works out better when both parties understand this.

You should not be paying these girls extra thinking it will make your service better. Do not pay their bills, pay for their rooms or take them on errands. You are doing that for NOTHING. In fact it may be making your experience worse. They figure if you are doing all this for them why should they step up their game for you. I can guarantee a smart monger is getting better mileage than you are with that same girl. Do not care about these girls and listen to their stories. They are doing just fine and living how they want to live. They do not want your life. They are happy with theirs. They want your money and anything else they can get out of you. Don't be a sap. Can you just call her up and get a freebie? Of course not. She doesn't really care about you or any of the extra things you have done for her. I have only gotten ONE total freebie ever and will talk about it later.

"But Tailgun, this girl is kinda cool and I like to spend time with her outside the call".

Okay, but there is a right way to do this. You want to take her out for a meal before or after the call at no cost to you for her time that is okay. I did this with a few, mostly in my early mongering days. Most working girls do not know how to act anymore in public but a handful do. This is a great time to learn about working girls in general. I always asked a lot of questions. These girls generally lie about everything but you can get some helpful answers if you ask the right way. Things like how do other girls get over on guys. They will happily spill the beans. Even ask them how they get over and they will proudly tell you. The sad thing is that after you do this with a few girls as well as ones you talk to during calls you see that they are all pretty much the same with the same stories. That's why I don't take them out anymore.

If you do this make sure the girl looks like she could actually be out with you for real. If you are 50 years old in sweats and you have some 21 year old with you in short shorts most will know exactly what she is and a few might think it's your daughter. Be realistic with who you are with in public. Any working girl I was ever out with in public could pass for my girlfriend or wife. If you could care less what it looks like then ignore what I said.

I used to take a girl to the store to get smokes or something after a call, which she paid for, if I knew her already or she did a great call. But I don't even do that anymore. Most of these girls have outstanding warrants anyway so why have to answer questions if some cop pulls you over.

The ones that are best to do things with outside of the call are UTRs. I mean real UTRs. A girl who hasn't posted for years but still sees you and some other old regulars. These girls tend to have kicked their addiction or at least have it under better control. I have two of these that are especially good at hanging out with.

I have one I took to AC for an entire weekend for 200. She let me bang her as many times as I wanted and seemed to enjoy going out and doing things there. She even offered to pay half on the meals but I declined mostly because she actually offered which impressed me. I let her leave the tips. This was the most GFE time I ever had with a provider. Not the kinkiest or wildest or best sex or anything like that. Just the most girlfriend like. There was no difference between her or a non working girl that weekend. I reached out to her a few weeks later and asked if she would do a call for free. She said yes because I had shown her such a good time in AC. That is the one freebie I ever got and she even drove 30 miles to me to do it. I never did any favors for her or paid extra. She has never asked or hinted for any of that and has never given me a sob story. A rarity.

My other one did an overnight in AC for 100. She is also one I will take out for meals or come over to my place and watch movies and chat. I give her anywhere from 40-100 and we usually spend the entire day together with an occasional overnight. This one will sometimes try to get me to do favors and I always say no.

Could I date either one of them. Probably. Would I? First one is almost tempting but absolutely not. They still live in a different world than we do even if they are not as bad as the others. The 2nd one has been trying to move in with me for years. Hell no. The goal must always be to have the best service at the lowest cost with these girls. Do not do them favors. Do not listen to their stories. They do not care about you. Do not waste your time and money caring about them. I especially feel bad for older or more desperate mongers who let these girls move in and they get taken advantage of. That 2nd girl bragged how she drained another guys retirement bank account in 2 months when she lived with him. I have more success and longevity with her because I keep the line between monger and escort in place. If I told you some of the stories I have had seeing 300 different providers in 10 years you would not believe them. Neither would I had they not happened to me.

Keep the line between provider and you in place. Do not care about them and realize they do not care about you. They are comfortable with you and that can be very good. But be a man. Be smart, normal and clean and you will have much better fun in this hobby. I am just a regular guy. But I know how to act.

[Lance547]

I flew in. I hate going through customs and I know crossing over into Mexico is easy and less time. It's just coming back into the US that will be the time killer. And zona norte is where most of the action is. Everywhere you walk you see women just standing there waiting for you to talk to them. I'm fluent in Spanish so I can joke around with them and make them more comfortable. Even you don't speak Spanish, sex is a language spoken in every country LOL. Tijuana was a very good time. But now it's back to reality in South Jersey.

Thanks for the Intel.

[TailGunner1]

I know about rat infestation on the higher end websites I just laugh I'm also extremely picky I pay attention to the words in an ad these chicks with fucked up attitudes tell on themselves in an ad and through communication. I check out their social especially Twitter because I came across high end chicks complaining about not wanting to do certain services but want high rates I'm into Asian chicks but I have to have the urge to see them at first sight I stay away from fast houses like Dollhouse and Etc because of raids.

You're a smart enough monger not to fall for the crackheads who think that advertising on a higher end site makes them high class. The problem with the legit high end girls is what you said. They may not want to do this or that. I am just not going to spend $500 plus for a girl who won't even give a BBBJ. I see no point in that. Some guys will take out a 2nd mortgage for a girl who does nothing just because she is hot. You and I don't play that. I also won't pay for former top end backpage girls who are now on twitter or whatever asking crazy rates. You were a top end 200-250 hr girl on backpage. You were never high end. You are a backpage girl. You might be a little better than the norm but not really that much. But again, too many of our fellow mongers will pay anything for anything.

I can talk any girl down, often way down. But because of fellow idiot mongers I often have to pay their stupid rate for the first time at least before I can work my line of shit.

[Raynj]

I'm looking at TJ myself. Did you fly in or walk across? I'm looking at Zona Notre.

To be fair, in Los Angeles, Seattle and other states out west in the United States the women who walk the street are just as hot but you have to worry about getting arrested and the really pretty street walkers are really nothing more than eye candy because they're instructed to charge for every little thing, you can't touch them really, and too many situations of robberies / set ups. They're hustlers really, they're trying to get the most amount of funds out of john's without doing any real work.

If you're in the United States your best bet is an AMP that has a lineup that let's you choose.

I flew in. I hate going through customs and I know crossing over into Mexico is easy and less time. It's just coming back into the US that will be the time killer. And zona norte is where most of the action is. Everywhere you walk you see women just standing there waiting for you to talk to them. I'm fluent in Spanish so I can joke around with them and make them more comfortable. Even you don't speak Spanish, sex is a language spoken in every country LOL. Tijuana was a very good time. But now it's back to reality in South Jersey.

[Hunter Jay]

I have seen those trashy stg girls and even street walkers on higher end websites. A higher end website with higher donations doesn't actually mean higher quality because anyone can sign up.

And what if you donate a higher amount and she still falls short? The problem is that you're still dealing with American women who generally have the aditude that they're worth way more then what they really are and that you should be grateful that you're even breathing air in the same room as them. This aditude comes out through the service.

The AMP gets the job done if you want clean consistent quality at a decent rate but this only works if you find Asian women attractive.

I know about rat infestation on the higher end websites I just laugh I'm also extremely picky I pay attention to the words in an ad these chicks with fucked up attitudes tell on themselves in an ad and through communication. I check out their social especially Twitter because I came across high end chicks complaining about not wanting to do certain services but want high rates I'm into Asian chicks but I have to have the urge to see them at first sight I stay away from fast houses like Dollhouse and Etc because of raids.

[Lance547]

I'm thinking about going after High target chicks the ones charging $500 and up all the money I spent dealing with these STG trashy chicks I could've put that money into the high price chicks and had a blast been a while since I had a high price chick.

I have seen those trashy stg girls and even street walkers on higher end websites. A higher end website with higher donations doesn't actually mean higher quality because anyone can sign up.

And what if you donate a higher amount and she still falls short? The problem is that you're still dealing with American women who generally have the aditude that they're worth way more then what they really are and that you should be grateful that you're even breathing air in the same room as them. This aditude comes out through the service.

The AMP gets the job done if you want clean consistent quality at a decent rate but this only works if you find Asian women attractive.

[Lance547]

I just came back from a 2 week vacation in Tijuana and I got spoiled. I got to say the women in south jersey are low quality and wayyy overpriced. Why spend 150 $ for a beat up crackhoe that have been using the same panties for 3 months when you can spend 150 $ in Tijuana and have 3 beautiful clean Latinas that will do anything you want? It amazes me that some of these girls even be posting ads and there is men that be DATY and DATO with these dirty escorts?? Times are rough out here in south jersey.

I'm looking at TJ myself. Did you fly in or walk across? I'm looking at Zona Notre.

To be fair, in Los Angeles, Seattle and other states out west in the United States the women who walk the street are just as hot but you have to worry about getting arrested and the really pretty street walkers are really nothing more than eye candy because they're instructed to charge for every little thing, you can't touch them really, and too many situations of robberies / set ups. They're hustlers really, they're trying to get the most amount of funds out of john's without doing any real work.

If you're in the United States your best bet is an AMP that has a lineup that let's you choose.

[OverKill418]

Check out DIYA, the eastern Indian chick.

I found her on Twitter. At 300-350 (some wiggle room), which is not much more than some of this trash is asking is a good experience. It's also slightly more than some AMPs.

https://www.diyagfe.com/

She's great, pretty, killer BBBJ. She's also very sweet and no attitude at all.

[J Richard]

I'm thinking about going after High target chicks the ones charging $500 and up all the money I spent dealing with these STG trashy chicks I could've put that money into the high price chicks and had a blast been a while since I had a high price chick.

Check out DIYA, the eastern Indian chick.

I found her on Twitter. At 300-350 (some wiggle room), which is not much more than some of this trash is asking is a good experience. It's also slightly more than some AMPs.

https://www.diyagfe.com/

[Hunter Jay]

Its like this all across america, man. Its slim pickings out there and if you want grade A meat (non user middle class white chicks) you're going to have to pay up.

I'm thinking about going after High target chicks the ones charging $500 and up all the money I spent dealing with these STG trashy chicks I could've put that money into the high price chicks and had a blast been a while since I had a high price chick.

[LolBoat]

I just came back from a 2 week vacation in Tijuana and I got spoiled. I got to say the women in south jersey are low quality and wayyy overpriced. Why spend 150 $ for a beat up crackhoe that have been using the same panties for 3 months when you can spend 150 $ in Tijuana and have 3 beautiful clean Latinas that will do anything you want? It amazes me that some of these girls even be posting ads and there is men that be DATY and DATO with these dirty escorts?? Times are rough out here in south jersey.

Its like this all across america, man. Its slim pickings out there and if you want grade A meat (non user middle class white chicks) you're going to have to pay up.

[Raynj]

I just came back from a 2 week vacation in Tijuana and I got spoiled. I got to say the women in south jersey are low quality and wayyy overpriced. Why spend 150 $ for a beat up crackhoe that have been using the same panties for 3 months when you can spend 150 $ in Tijuana and have 3 beautiful clean Latinas that will do anything you want? It amazes me that some of these girls even be posting ads and there is men that be DATY and DATO with these dirty escorts?? Times are rough out here in south jersey.

[ReadingNeeds]

Here is how the deep discount works for me. You see a girl once or twice at her regular rate. You have made a good impression. You showed up clean and she felt safe. You were also chill and easy to get along with. Maybe you are also halfway decent at fucking and don't look so bad. She wants to see you again because for her you are a low risk call. Many girls "dial for dollars" with guys they have seen before. That means she is calling or texting you asking for you to see her. She needs money and remembers you were a good call and even saw her another time. Once she dials you for dollars she needs money bad. This is when you offer her half or even a quarter of what she normally asks and you say you want the same service and length of time. Most will do it. After a few times of dialing you for dollars she will reach out to you whenever she really needs money and your locked in at your lower rate. You can often pull that off too when you reach out to her for a call.

You can even do it with girls who aren't hitting you up. Just reach out to a girl you have seen multiple times and say for whatever reason you only have x amount of money. They also will usually do the call since they have seen you multiple times and you are a safe and even maybe a fun call.

Anyone seeing a girl dozens of times and still paying her full advertised rate is not a smart monger.

Thanks for the tip.

[TailGunner1]

Continuing some of what we've been talking about in the escort forum. Lots of good advice to go around.

Something I've wondered about is how things unfold when you become regular with someone and start to get a deep discount. Do you starting to lowball after a while, or was it the girls idea?

Here is how the deep discount works for me. You see a girl once or twice at her regular rate. You have made a good impression. You showed up clean and she felt safe. You were also chill and easy to get along with. Maybe you are also halfway decent at fucking and don't look so bad. She wants to see you again because for her you are a low risk call. Many girls "dial for dollars" with guys they have seen before. That means she is calling or texting you asking for you to see her. She needs money and remembers you were a good call and even saw her another time. Once she dials you for dollars she needs money bad. This is when you offer her half or even a quarter of what she normally asks and you say you want the same service and length of time. Most will do it. After a few times of dialing you for dollars she will reach out to you whenever she really needs money and your locked in at your lower rate. You can often pull that off too when you reach out to her for a call.

You can even do it with girls who aren't hitting you up. Just reach out to a girl you have seen multiple times and say for whatever reason you only have x amount of money. They also will usually do the call since they have seen you multiple times and you are a safe and even maybe a fun call.

Anyone seeing a girl dozens of times and still paying her full advertised rate is not a smart monger.

[LukeWarmWater3]

Continuing some of what we've been talking about in the escort forum. Lots of good advice to go around.

Something I've wondered about is how things unfold when you become regular with someone and start to get a deep discount. Do you starting to lowball after a while, or was it the girls idea?

I had one a few years back now. Saw her quite a lot. Regular FS escort. She's only ask me for whatever the room would cost. I never paid for the room it was always done in her name. At times I'd see her two three times a week! She'd put ad on BP I'm sure a few regulars were around. Like myself. Honestly I got bored because there wasn't much variety in our time together. Imagine a BJ and some nice pussy getting boring!! But it did. She moved out of state game over no big deal for me.