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Originally Posted by Ump1969
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I always enjoy reading the Vegas board. You guys out there find more girls in a day than many cities have in a week or a month, including mine. I did find some of the most recent topics interesting. The definition of prostitution is sex traded for money. That would seem to mean the girl does not need to get in the car. But some of the busiest tracks in the country are in the worst neighborhoods with the most shady mongers. That, by itself, could make it dangerous for a decoy to get in a car. We have all heard the stories from girls about bad things happening to them. I would think decoys would try to avoid that, whether it be Figueroa in LA, 5th in Chitown or other seedy areas. Also, you don't know how even some otherwise calm mongers are going to react when busted. The guy with a wife and 3 kids, who serves as a lay pastor, and a member of the Chamber of Commerce, watching his life go up in smoke in an instant when he's told he's busted might not have a calm reaction. My own rule is not to even mention sex or money if she talks through the window and refuses to get in the car. Also, be careful when picking up a crack *****, especially when she wants to go to her spot. She doesn't care about you. There might be someone she knows at the spot waiting for you. She doesn't care if LEO has an eye on the spot- she's only thinking about getting that next hit. As always, read the guidelines for pickups and listen to the many voices of experiences commenting here. Don't forget some of the more experienced mongers have learned certain things the hard way, including myself.
I've been mongering the Las Vegas streets since 1986. I've never saw a jail cell nor been arrested. I call it a bit of common sense and a lot of LUCK. At one time in the Early 90's I was copping 2 A day, 5 Days a week. I put 200,000 Miles on a 1989 Chevy truck in 4 YEARS. From mongering, sometimes 6 To 8 Hours a day, hundreds of miles just looking for a better one than I just observed. I've had a few run ins with unsavory S. Ws. The worst thing I ever suffered was a broken windshield which is bad enough. A little recon, don't be seen driving around the block 6 Times by LE. And it all worked out. SO FAR.
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Originally Posted by Camera3
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I'm sure the guys who were under the mistaken believe that if a girl got in the car they were home free are relieved to know the girl that actually did get in the car resulting in their arrest wasn't an actual cop but a "cooperating female. ".
At the end of the day, they still got their picture in the paper.
C3.
It's also one of the reasons the 'cop check' is useless. If they have a cooperating female, she is not a cop and so who can say if that is illegal.
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Exceptions
Originally Posted by Camera3
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I'm sure the guys who were under the mistaken believe that if a girl got in the car they were home free are relieved to know the girl that actually did get in the car resulting in their arrest wasn't an actual cop but a "cooperating female. ".
At the end of the day, they still got their picture in the paper.
C3.
Just shows there are exceptions to every rule and this one, while perhaps a very isolated exception, sort of blows the comfort level of 'if she get's in the car'. Ouch!
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I'm sure the guys feel better knowing that
Originally Posted by Jamesj
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If you read the article, it was a "cooperative female " being used as a decoy. Thus she was NOT an uncover police officer.
JAMESJ.
I'm sure the guys who were under the mistaken believe that if a girl got in the car they were home free are relieved to know the girl that actually did get in the car resulting in their arrest wasn't an actual cop but a "cooperating female. ".
At the end of the day, they still got their picture in the paper.
C3.
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Cooperative Female
Originally Posted by TheSwampHawk
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I find it highly unlikely that decoys will enter a car, and far less likely that, if they did, they'd allow anyone to drive anywhere. YMWAV (Your Mileage Will ALWAYS Vary! And there's an exception to every rule. I'm sure someone, somewhere, at sometime got first hand experience to the contrary, but there's no percentage in betting on meteor strikes. As I've often opined: "There's a helluva lot more erratic than erotic in this pursuit!
What informs my opinion: Many years training LE and swat teams. Conversations with vice commanders and decoys. Conversations with guys busted by decoys. May aspects of the hobby vary greatly depending upon varying state statues and customs; but this one appears to be pretty constant. You may have a different opinion, but mine's quite solid on this issue.
HH, SS,
-SH.
If you read the article, it was a "cooperative female " being used as a decoy. Thus she was NOT an uncover police officer.
JAMESJ.
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Decoys in cars
Originally Posted by TheSwampHawk
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I find it highly unlikely that decoys will enter a car, and far less likely that, if they did, they'd allow anyone to drive anywhere. YMWAV (Your Mileage Will ALWAYS Vary! And there's an exception to every rule. I'm sure someone, somewhere, at sometime got first hand experience to the contrary, but there's no percentage in betting on meteor strikes. As I've often opined: "There's a helluva lot more erratic than erotic in this pursuit!
What informs my opinion: Many years training LE and swat teams. Conversations with vice commanders and decoys. Conversations with guys busted by decoys. May aspects of the hobby vary greatly depending upon varying state statues and customs; but this one appears to be pretty constant. You may have a different opinion, but mine's quite solid on this issue.
HH, SS,
-SH.
https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news...a69c703ae.html
I'm not sure how they operate out in Vegas but I can promise you decoys can and will get in cars in other states.
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Enjoyable
I always enjoy reading the Vegas board. You guys out there find more girls in a day than many cities have in a week or a month, including mine. I did find some of the most recent topics interesting. The definition of prostitution is sex traded for money. That would seem to mean the girl does not need to get in the car. But some of the busiest tracks in the country are in the worst neighborhoods with the most shady mongers. That, by itself, could make it dangerous for a decoy to get in a car. We have all heard the stories from girls about bad things happening to them. I would think decoys would try to avoid that, whether it be Figueroa in LA, 5th in Chitown or other seedy areas. Also, you don't know how even some otherwise calm mongers are going to react when busted. The guy with a wife and 3 kids, who serves as a lay pastor, and a member of the Chamber of Commerce, watching his life go up in smoke in an instant when he's told he's busted might not have a calm reaction. My own rule is not to even mention sex or money if she talks through the window and refuses to get in the car. Also, be careful when picking up a crack *****, especially when she wants to go to her spot. She doesn't care about you. There might be someone she knows at the spot waiting for you. She doesn't care if LEO has an eye on the spot- she's only thinking about getting that next hit. As always, read the guidelines for pickups and listen to the many voices of experiences commenting here. Don't forget some of the more experienced mongers have learned certain things the hard way, including myself.
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Pffftttt
Originally Posted by StanleyStankas
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From someone observing back here in chi-town. Every time I see posts like this I think back of a cops episode out in la la land on sunset I believe where they did a reverse sting. A cop was riding around in a beat up hugo in a birthday clown costume with a bouquet of balloons in the back seat and of course the show had sound on him so we heard the convo. Once the girl got into the car he drove away a bit, stopped and then the signal to move in was he reached back, got the balloons and released them into the air! I have to find that on you tube! When this actually aired (must have been early 90's) I was rolling on the floor!
That might have been a good episode but I bet no one remembers this one the episode where the dog was chasing the guy the dog trapped him and the guy let loose a roundhouse kick to the dog does anyone remember that on greatest episode of cops ever IMHO!
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Zombies in various areas
So if the crack hoe is your type; I've seen lots of them off Las Vegas BLVD from Saharah going North. I got bored and just started wandering around. Not so much my scene up that way. Funny; I saw the crazy Asian girl in the leather pants with the giant chrome zipper on her ass. She was literally wearing the same clothes. I guess now I know why she rambles absolute garbage like a broken record. She really did fry her brain and is actually that incredibly stupid.
I seen legs wandering around on Trop, but her attitude sucks so I didn't even bother.
And again, the chick with her eyeballs too far apart. I couldn't help laugh about how she looks like a d1 ck suckn salamander. I don't think I could even keep a straight face for that if I tried. The only other place I have ever seen people with such an onion shapred head was in New Orleans.
I did see the Las Vegas Loch Ness Monster. It couldn't have been more than 4 feet tall, bizarre mow-hawk, and just all kinds of drugged out. The midget pirate h00 ker in real life.
That was on Trop.
Well the Carnival just keeps getting better, but I literally have not been able to find anything I like.
Any other areas worth checking out?
I've been up and down Bouler, all the way to freemont and I honestly can't even laugh at what I see over that. That's just sad. Someone must be handing them out money because they are out there practically begging to be picked up, but no way is it me. I can only imagine how much free-breeze it would take to get that stench out.
Happy hunting and LMK if anything good pops up.
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Thanks for all of this recon and info
Originally Posted by MongerSeeker
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I have watched sting operations on TV and they almost all have said the girl does not get in the car. In recent years I have noticed often times LE will have another UC watching the decoy close by. In one case I saw where there a cop dressed as a homeless person. This is also a tip off that a sting is taking place.
From someone observing back here in chi-town. Every time I see posts like this I think back of a cops episode out in la la land on sunset I believe where they did a reverse sting. A cop was riding around in a beat up hugo in a birthday clown costume with a bouquet of balloons in the back seat and of course the show had sound on him so we heard the convo. Once the girl got into the car he drove away a bit, stopped and then the signal to move in was he reached back, got the balloons and released them into the air! I have to find that on you tube! When this actually aired (must have been early 90's) I was rolling on the floor!
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I have watched sting operations on TV and they almost all have said the girl does not get in the car. In recent years I have noticed often times LE will have another UC watching the decoy close by. In one case I saw where there a cop dressed as a homeless person. This is also a tip off that a sting is taking place.
Originally Posted by Dac007
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I think a lot of variables do determine how a decoy acts and what she does. Mostly it's the environment, I also have friends who currently and previously worked vice in LA. The one thing they told me is don't believe what you hear regarding vice stings and busts, every agency is different. One guy told me that could never happen in LA, the track is in the worst neighborhood in town, lots of side streets and traffic is usually heavy. He then said in other cities he worked in, a decoy may get into a vehicle, it's her call to determine if the guy is a regular joe or possibly dangerous. However, this only happens if she has backup in the form of another decoy or a UC unit with eyes on her. He also said it's about the leadership, maybe a new vice commander wants to be more aggressive. Finally he said "don't assume anything about LE. Hell, girls out there still believe we have to tell them we are LE when asked!
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Originally Posted by TheSwampHawk
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I find it highly unlikely that decoys will enter a car, and far less likely that, if they did, they'd allow anyone to drive anywhere. YMWAV (Your Mileage Will ALWAYS Vary! And there's an exception to every rule. I'm sure someone, somewhere, at sometime got first hand experience to the contrary, but there's no percentage in betting on meteor strikes. As I've often opined: "There's a helluva lot more erratic than erotic in this pursuit!
What informs my opinion: Many years training LE and swat teams. Conversations with vice commanders and decoys. Conversations with guys busted by decoys. May aspects of the hobby vary greatly depending upon varying state statues and customs; but this one appears to be pretty constant. You may have a different opinion, but mine's quite solid on this issue.
HH, SS,
-SH.
I think a lot of variables do determine how a decoy acts and what she does. Mostly it's the environment, I also have friends who currently and previously worked vice in LA. The one thing they told me is don't believe what you hear regarding vice stings and busts, every agency is different. One guy told me that could never happen in LA, the track is in the worst neighborhood in town, lots of side streets and traffic is usually heavy. He then said in other cities he worked in, a decoy may get into a vehicle, it's her call to determine if the guy is a regular joe or possibly dangerous. However, this only happens if she has backup in the form of another decoy or a UC unit with eyes on her. He also said it's about the leadership, maybe a new vice commander wants to be more aggressive. Finally he said "don't assume anything about LE. Hell, girls out there still believe we have to tell them we are LE when asked!
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I forgot to add that I did see a decoy get in a on a episode COP's. She only got in the car and she did not close the car. But like I said it is extremely rare.
Originally Posted by TheSwampHawk
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I find it highly unlikely that decoys will enter a car, and far less likely that, if they did, they'd allow anyone to drive anywhere. YMWAV (Your Mileage Will ALWAYS Vary! And there's an exception to every rule. I'm sure someone, somewhere, at sometime got first hand experience to the contrary, but there's no percentage in betting on meteor strikes. As I've often opined: "There's a helluva lot more erratic than erotic in this pursuit!
What informs my opinion: Many years training LE and swat teams. Conversations with vice commanders and decoys. Conversations with guys busted by decoys. May aspects of the hobby vary greatly depending upon varying state statues and customs; but this one appears to be pretty constant. You may have a different opinion, but mine's quite solid on this issue.
HH, SS,
-SH.
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Ffs
Originally Posted by Jedi8765
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But is that loopy Asian hooker worth picking up? Anyone have any intel?
I've posted at least 20 pics of her, look and make up your own mind.
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But is that loopy Asian hooker worth picking up? Anyone have any intel?
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