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  1. #8559
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    Posts: 1537
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokker  [View Original Post]
    I know dac007 has a lot of streetwalker experience but I have to agree mostly with what he said. Girls who walk the street are bottom of the barrel. Casino girls are better but way more expensive. Most cases the streetwalkers have an ad somewhere online anyway so going to driving around and looking for tail for hours as I've read in some cases is a waste time in 2024, that's some old school 1980,1990's stuff. It's all online now a days. Streetwalkers are for the really cheap mongers. They get used and abused. They walk around get picked up dropped off and repeat the process until they meet there quota for that day. I'm not saying online girls don't do that also, I just prefer them to have there own place or room so they can wash up after, not hoping in and out of cars without washing there ass.

    Just My 2 cents.
    There are advantages and disadvantages to both. Like I said most SW's I've met also work casinos and dance. A lot of the girls you see there will be walking the streets. I wouldn't say SW's are for cheap mongers, if you want to pay much more for the same product because it's at a different store, I think that makes no sense. There are some big advantages to SW's. First you know exactly what you are getting because she's right in front of you, there is no long and drawn out process to see them. I wish I had a dollar for every provider I tried to see from an online ad that refused to answer the phone but insists that you text to set up the appointment. 2 hours later, she still hasn't replied to your 4th text asking for rates and availability. A 5 minute phone call could have eliminated all those texts. You don't have to worry about a provider being late on outcalls (as 90% of them are) or wait for 20 minutes in the parking lot when you let her know you have arrived to her incall. You don't risk the chance of someone doubling your rate and having the provider ghost you. And really important when you pick up a SW and take her back to your hotel, you are in control of the situation. Biggest risk is bad service, no wondering if some dude is coming out of the closet at her incall or if it's a sting. As far as hygiene goes, I've had the same experiences with online incall / outcall as I have with SW's. Why? Because the girl in the online ad was on the track when I called her!! I've had far more bad experience online than on the streets. It's all about being selective. Today, for example. I'm in Bakersfield, didn't know there were SW's here but I stumbled upon them, came here to USA and found that I was on the right street. Plenty of girls out, some really hot, however I only engaged with one, didn't like her attitude so I moved on. The others were all huddled in the entrance of a crappy motel and would not leave the driveway so you had to pull in to approach, although a few were hot, I decided to move on. Had enough and was leaving the area, stopped for some gas, a super hot woman pulled up to get gas, we started chatting, she was working. She was very intelligent, funny, sexy and willing. Got her digits, she gave me the low down on the streets here, said she rarely works them, only occasionally in the daytime and mostly does online ads and dances. She quoted me a price, checked her online ads, she has plenty of great reviews and her prices there are 3 x what she quoted me.

  2. #8558

    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyNuts  [View Original Post]
    Applies to street hookers. If you're saying sex workers in general, I disagree. You won't get arrested or trick rolled or jumped by a pimp at an AMP or a strip club, where all of the girls offer take out and if you have some game you can hook up with them for fee or for free if you establish a rapport over time. Done that many times. It's fun for the short term but dating a stripper, as in your girlfriend (much less more than that) comes with too many headaches it's just not worth more than a tag and release. STDs are everywhere, yes. But streetwalkers typically are not concerned about hygiene and that casual attitude about being clean jacks up the risks considerably. I kid you not, I saw a SWer a few years back by the Irish Pub parking lot across from The Orleans pull down her panties and take a shit right then and there. It was very late and there weren't many cars around but still. Then she just pulled her panties, lit up a smoke and was on her way like it was nothing. Gross!
    I know dac007 has a lot of streetwalker experience but I have to agree mostly with what he said. Girls who walk the street are bottom of the barrel. Casino girls are better but way more expensive. Most cases the streetwalkers have an ad somewhere online anyway so going to driving around and looking for tail for hours as I've read in some cases is a waste time in 2024, that's some old school 1980,1990's stuff. It's all online now a days. Streetwalkers are for the really cheap mongers. They get used and abused. They walk around get picked up dropped off and repeat the process until they meet there quota for that day. I'm not saying online girls don't do that also, I just prefer them to have there own place or room so they can wash up after, not hoping in and out of cars without washing there ass.

    Just My 2 cents.

  3. #8557
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    Posts: 1537
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyNuts  [View Original Post]
    Applies to street hookers. If you're saying sex workers in general, I disagree. You won't get arrested or trick rolled or jumped by a pimp at an AMP or a strip club, where all of the girls offer take out and if you have some game you can hook up with them for fee or for free if you establish a rapport over time. Done that many times. It's fun for the short term but dating a stripper, as in your girlfriend (much less more than that) comes with too many headaches it's just not worth more than a tag and release. STDs are everywhere, yes. But streetwalkers typically are not concerned about hygiene and that casual attitude about being clean jacks up the risks considerably. I kid you not, I saw a SWer a few years back by the Irish Pub parking lot across from The Orleans pull down her panties and take a shit right then and there. It was very late and there weren't many cars around but still. Then she just pulled her panties, lit up a smoke and was on her way like it was nothing. Gross!
    They call them sex workers for a reason. Do you realize that most sex workers do all jobs? I wish I had a dollar for every SW or CG I met that asked me to come to the club she works at. Strip clubs, especially in Vegas don't get jumping until midnight or later, lots of these ladies post ads, work the casinos or streets before going to the club. I might be older than you, I've been there, done that, dated several strippers, right now my thing is not strip clubs, it's a waste of time to me because you are guaranteed nothing except dropping at least few hundred before you get anything, then she wants her flowers. I hear what you are saying about SW's but if you are selective you can find some superstars on the streets, 85% of them I won't' see based on looks, 5% because of attitude, so that leaves about 10% that I will see. I believe that's why in 25 years of doing this, I've had 1 bad experience outside of poor service, and that experience wasn't that bad, just a threat of management intervention, which didn't happen. That's incredible for that time span. Right now I have 2 fabulous regulars, one I met in LA, the other on Trop. Both as hot as anything you will see at the club. And what I pay from meeting them on the streets is like the difference in buying a beer on the strip vs buying that same beer at Walmart. I've heard both of them make appointments in front of me for more than 4 x what I just paid because it was someone they met at a club or via their online ad. But all in all, you can have a bad situation with any sex worker, no matter where you meet them. It's up to you to use your common sense and intuition to avoid issues.

  4. #8556

    Nah

    Quote Originally Posted by Dac007  [View Original Post]
    Those 4 apply to any situation in this game. BTW, I've been following your advice and more for over 20 years. Most guys here are seasoned vets and know what we are doing. Why do you think I showed up at the spot early do to recon?
    Applies to street hookers. If you're saying sex workers in general, I disagree. You won't get arrested or trick rolled or jumped by a pimp at an AMP or a strip club, where all of the girls offer take out and if you have some game you can hook up with them for fee or for free if you establish a rapport over time. Done that many times. It's fun for the short term but dating a stripper, as in your girlfriend (much less more than that) comes with too many headaches it's just not worth more than a tag and release. STDs are everywhere, yes. But streetwalkers typically are not concerned about hygiene and that casual attitude about being clean jacks up the risks considerably. I kid you not, I saw a SWer a few years back by the Irish Pub parking lot across from The Orleans pull down her panties and take a shit right then and there. It was very late and there weren't many cars around but still. Then she just pulled her panties, lit up a smoke and was on her way like it was nothing. Gross!

  5. #8555
    Unfortunately most of the southwest has downhill or become ridiculously expensive. These days it fairly rare to find any good WSW's. I live in SD so I stick to TJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dac007  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Vegas has changed, I remember when I moved here 10 years ago, both Trop and BH were great. Now it's an inconsistent mess. No longer worth it for me to plan a night of hitting the streets, I've got rooms near Trop on several different weekends in the last year or so, success rate is about 40% and those that I did meet were after hours and hours of looking. It used to be 30 minutes max and my biggest problem was selecting which one I wanted. I remember many nights where I saw 2, sometimes 3 because when I dropped one off there was a hotter one out there.

    I rarely get a room now and rarely hit the streets at night, instead I've been meeting them in the daytime, get the number then hopefully see them later. I've become more of a regular for a few girls. Unfortunately they all either live here and travel most of the time to better cities or don't come her at all. Several I've met told me they don't do Vegas anymore. My ATF right now is fabulous but has been banned from Vegas casinos, she told me it's not worth it if she can't work the streets and casinos. She's the best provider I've met in a long time, very consistent, great attitude, never late and service is incredible. I'm going to LA to see her this weekend. I tested her last time I saw her, told her I was a little short, she had no problem with it. I wasn't short but wanted to see how she reacted. I sent her the rest a week later. Today she texted me and asked if I could do her a big favor. Oh crap, here it comes, I asked her what the favor was. She asked for fifteen bucks! I sent her fifty! I'm going to have a fabulous time with her this weekend.

    I do have another great regular here but she's a bit inconsistent. My preference now is to travel to other cities, LA is great for online, street are incredible talent wise but too much drama and no decent hotels near the track so it's car date or her crappy, dangerous motel. PHX is great, can't wait until it gets hot and rooms are much cheaper, they are usually expensive in the winter and spring when the weather is great. Stockton has been really good, so has Sac. Oakland is out of control, won't go back there because they keep breaking into cars and if you have out of states plates, your car will definitely be broken into.

    Sad to see what Sin City has become for sinners!

  6. #8554
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    Posts: 1537
    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyNuts  [View Original Post]
    1. STDs, 2. Pimps, 3. Trick Rolls, 4. Police. In that order, just not worth it (for me). If you chose to ignore and roll the dice. Have your head on a swivel, use common sense, lock valuables up, don't give SWs your real name or any personal info, use a burner phone, use rubbers.
    Those 4 apply to any situation in this game. BTW, I've been following your advice and more for over 20 years. Most guys here are seasoned vets and know what we are doing. Why do you think I showed up at the spot early do to recon?

  7. #8553
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    Posts: 1537
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCreamLoad  [View Original Post]
    You know what for Vegas being called "Sin City" I've seen more hoe stroll action in Utah, For the past few months the streets have been Dead.

    I'm unsure if the strong LVPD presence has anything to do with it but the selection is slim-pickings, I suspect it has to do with these areas being gentrified / developed.

    W. Charleston Lowe's has the same 4 BSW and 1 white-girl, Every now and then you come across a new face but usually this isn't something they do fulltime.

    17th & Fremont seem to have absolutely filthy Fentanyl addicts.

    Fremont & Bruce No action, Only more homeless tweakers.

    W. Tropicana / BK again has the same few BSWs that hang out there, 7-11 had a Latina BBW but not really my type but I considered it.

    Can someone explain to me what is going on? Dating sites use to be my alternative to pickup SB's / Freelancers but those are dead, Even with a paid sub Tinder is full of bots.

    Where are you guys finding regular SBs / Freelancers?
    Yes, Vegas has changed, I remember when I moved here 10 years ago, both Trop and BH were great. Now it's an inconsistent mess. No longer worth it for me to plan a night of hitting the streets, I've got rooms near Trop on several different weekends in the last year or so, success rate is about 40% and those that I did meet were after hours and hours of looking. It used to be 30 minutes max and my biggest problem was selecting which one I wanted. I remember many nights where I saw 2, sometimes 3 because when I dropped one off there was a hotter one out there.

    I rarely get a room now and rarely hit the streets at night, instead I've been meeting them in the daytime, get the number then hopefully see them later. I've become more of a regular for a few girls. Unfortunately they all either live here and travel most of the time to better cities or don't come her at all. Several I've met told me they don't do Vegas anymore. My ATF right now is fabulous but has been banned from Vegas casinos, she told me it's not worth it if she can't work the streets and casinos. She's the best provider I've met in a long time, very consistent, great attitude, never late and service is incredible. I'm going to LA to see her this weekend. I tested her last time I saw her, told her I was a little short, she had no problem with it. I wasn't short but wanted to see how she reacted. I sent her the rest a week later. Today she texted me and asked if I could do her a big favor. Oh crap, here it comes, I asked her what the favor was. She asked for fifteen bucks! I sent her fifty! I'm going to have a fabulous time with her this weekend.

    I do have another great regular here but she's a bit inconsistent. My preference now is to travel to other cities, LA is great for online, street are incredible talent wise but too much drama and no decent hotels near the track so it's car date or her crappy, dangerous motel. PHX is great, can't wait until it gets hot and rooms are much cheaper, they are usually expensive in the winter and spring when the weather is great. Stockton has been really good, so has Sac. Oakland is out of control, won't go back there because they keep breaking into cars and if you have out of states plates, your car will definitely be broken into.

    Sad to see what Sin City has become for sinners!

  8. #8552

    No action

    Quote Originally Posted by Crush1238  [View Original Post]
    I went out last night at midnight with high hopes and expectations.

    With the warmer nights and it being Friday night in Vegas I expected an increase in SW traffic and a happy hunting ground.

    Boy was I disappointed.

    I first did the TROP loop and stopped into the local Casino.

    There were only a few regulars out and they all had long lines of cars waiting, inside the casino were the same old regulars.

    Many had some major physical issues or just plain dirty.

    I had my sights set on one in particular*but by the time I circled back on her I found her slumped over, sleeping at a one armed bandit.

    Quickly bailing back onto the street, it was abandoned, desolate.

    LEO had a strong presence*and probably contributed to the lack of talent.

    The Sahara run was also unimpressive but I made it down to Eastern and BH / Fremont.

    I spotted two really good prospects.

    One was a young brunette dressed in black*fishnets, she was cute but I couldn't*land her.

    The second was a larger, white blond wearing a tight, super short pink skirt and pink tiny top that could barely contain her massive tits.

    Unfortunately*by the time I pulled the UTurn someone else already*got her.

    Got to the Fremont Experience around 130 am and was able to easily park.

    Some drunk guy immediately*thought I was his Uber and insisted I take him home, stumbling in front of my car.

    I had to tell him to get the FUX away from me after explaining numerous times I wasnt*his Uber driver.

    I have never seen so many fuxed*up people, I was hit up for my lighter many times, for free smokes and just plain money.

    This is not my first rodeo, I know how to handle street people and drunks but last night was 10 x the norm.

    There were several occasions where I noticed guys trying to fix ladies high heels to help them walk and I followed a drunk hot girl couple.

    The couple was hammered but smoking hot.
    You know what for Vegas being called "Sin City" I've seen more hoe stroll action in Utah, For the past few months the streets have been Dead.

    I'm unsure if the strong LVPD presence has anything to do with it but the selection is slim-pickings, I suspect it has to do with these areas being gentrified / developed.

    W. Charleston Lowe's has the same 4 BSW and 1 white-girl, Every now and then you come across a new face but usually this isn't something they do fulltime.

    17th & Fremont seem to have absolutely filthy Fentanyl addicts.

    Fremont & Bruce No action, Only more homeless tweakers.

    W. Tropicana / BK again has the same few BSWs that hang out there, 7-11 had a Latina BBW but not really my type but I considered it.

    Can someone explain to me what is going on? Dating sites use to be my alternative to pickup SB's / Freelancers but those are dead, Even with a paid sub Tinder is full of bots.

    Where are you guys finding regular SBs / Freelancers?

  9. #8551

    Stroll map

    Anyone know if there is stroll map for this area.

  10. #8550

    Unhappy Hunting Ground

    I went out last night at midnight with high hopes and expectations.

    With the warmer nights and it being Friday night in Vegas I expected an increase in SW traffic and a happy hunting ground.

    Boy was I disappointed.

    I first did the TROP loop and stopped into the local Casino.

    There were only a few regulars out and they all had long lines of cars waiting, inside the casino were the same old regulars.

    Many had some major physical issues or just plain dirty.

    I had my sights set on one in particular*but by the time I circled back on her I found her slumped over, sleeping at a one armed bandit.

    Quickly bailing back onto the street, it was abandoned, desolate.

    LEO had a strong presence*and probably contributed to the lack of talent.

    The Sahara run was also unimpressive but I made it down to Eastern and BH / Fremont.

    I spotted two really good prospects.

    One was a young brunette dressed in black*fishnets, she was cute but I couldn't*land her.

    The second was a larger, white blond wearing a tight, super short pink skirt and pink tiny top that could barely contain her massive tits.

    Unfortunately*by the time I pulled the UTurn someone else already*got her.

    Got to the Fremont Experience around 130 am and was able to easily park.

    Some drunk guy immediately*thought I was his Uber and insisted I take him home, stumbling in front of my car.

    I had to tell him to get the FUX away from me after explaining numerous times I wasnt*his Uber driver.

    I have never seen so many fuxed*up people, I was hit up for my lighter many times, for free smokes and just plain money.

    This is not my first rodeo, I know how to handle street people and drunks but last night was 10 x the norm.

    There were several occasions where I noticed guys trying to fix ladies high heels to help them walk and I followed a drunk hot girl couple.

    The couple was hammered but smoking hot.

    Two blonds desperately*trying to keep the other from falling, both wearing short skirts.

    But ultimately*nothing really happened with them. Disappointing to say the least.

    I saw 2 security guards escort a TOTAL drunk out of the Fremont hotel and onto Fremont, and as soon as they got him out the door he collapsed.

    I scoured the scene until 3 am and was very disappointed.

    The bands sucked, the entertainment sucked and ultimately*there was no one to suck me off.

    There were only*a few working ladies left at this point and none were in the ball game for last night.

    So for me last night the stroll, the hunting wasnt*worth the waste of the gas.

    Maybe tonight will be better.

  11. #8549

    Some spots seem open, not trop

    Trop seems luke warm to zero lately. Twain is a zero. Boulder Highway from El Cort to Bruce is mostly tooth missing grannies with sores. Lowes has a few upsellers after dark, mostly BSW, but is being watched a lot by security and LEO. But down by Az. Charlie to Sportsman, I have spotted a few, one was a blonde, Sarah ,100 FS, and a redhead Patricia 100 FS and good time also. These SW I meet never seem to have a phone. I like everything covered, so I do not know about BBBJ or other stuff. I had a room at Az charlie, which is reasonable. I get a room always, a cardate is risky, and their place is risky. Good luck out there.

  12. #8548

    Street Meat Not Worth The Risks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dac007  [View Original Post]
    So I was in Cali over the weekend. Hit the track and picked one up, she was horrible. Looked great and had a fabulous body but showed 0 interest and effort. I should have followed my instincts and not see her when she was really skittish when I first met her. But the little head was looking at that booty. She never took her eyes off of her phone as we headed back to the room, then I had to friggin tell her to put the damn phone down during out session! Then the "slow down, not so hard" BS started. And had the nerve to ask for a tip.

    The following day I found one online, she had some good reviews and I was able to verify her pics were accurate. She seemed very intelligent on the phone so I felt pretty good about her. So we set up an incall. Called when I was ready to leave, she tells me she's with her girlfriend and needs about 30 more minutes, no problem. Call back 30 minutes, she said she's about 15 minutes away and sent me the address. Now in her ad, it says "CALL / TEXT FOR MY ROOM NUMBER # & OR VERIFICATION". I start heading over there then look at my map and realize it's an apt building, not a hotel. 1st red flag, still I wasn't that concerned. I head over to scope out the neighborhood and building..
    1. STDs, 2. Pimps, 3. Trick Rolls, 4. Police. In that order, just not worth it (for me). If you chose to ignore and roll the dice. Have your head on a swivel, use common sense, lock valuables up, don't give SWs your real name or any personal info, use a burner phone, use rubbers.

  13. #8547
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    Posts: 1537

    Horrible business

    So I was in Cali over the weekend. Hit the track and picked one up, she was horrible. Looked great and had a fabulous body but showed 0 interest and effort. I should have followed my instincts and not see her when she was really skittish when I first met her. But the little head was looking at that booty. She never took her eyes off of her phone as we headed back to the room, then I had to friggin tell her to put the damn phone down during out session! Then the "slow down, not so hard" BS started. And had the nerve to ask for a tip.

    The following day I found one online, she had some good reviews and I was able to verify her pics were accurate. She seemed very intelligent on the phone so I felt pretty good about her. So we set up an incall. Called when I was ready to leave, she tells me she's with her girlfriend and needs about 30 more minutes, no problem. Call back 30 minutes, she said she's about 15 minutes away and sent me the address. Now in her ad, it says "CALL / TEXT FOR MY ROOM NUMBER # & OR VERIFICATION". I start heading over there then look at my map and realize it's an apt building, not a hotel. 1st red flag, still I wasn't that concerned. I head over to scope out the neighborhood and building. As I'm pulling up I see her getting out of a car with some dude. I pull over and park right down the street, they had no idea. Observe them both grab stuff out of the car and take it into the building. I'm thinking the dude is going to leave, he did not, he comes back outside and another dude pulls up and they have a conversation, then he goes back inside. Then she comes back out to the car and calls me. I don't pick up. Waited another 5 minutes then call her back. I explained everything to her, of course she has an excuse for everything then she finally says "you know some girls do have management" I told her yes, that's expected but it's up to you and your management to make sure I don't see them and told her this was her fault for giving me the address before she was actually there.

  14. #8546
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    Posts: 1537

    Boulder Hwy

    Looks like things are shifting to BH becoming the main track. I've been seeing a lot of activity between 2 and 6 pm, I'm sure now that time has changed, they will be out much later. I've ran into several that I stopped and talked to, all said Trop was becoming too risky with LE, two told me they were told to stay off of Trop, so they have relocated to BH. Not sure what's been happening after dark but I'm going to head out there one night soon.

  15. #8545
    Quote Originally Posted by Crush1238  [View Original Post]

    Screaming I got her to fart on my tongue 4 times.
    Jesus dude.

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