General Reports

[Misunderstood]

I contacted 2 girls that use to live in the same house asking for verification. I'm waiting for their reply.

A monger who is not choosing to be identified at this time confirmed that the P10, Kristin, GT Nikki house is on Maple but not sure of the exact address.

I'm glad I never visited that house.
I actually warned the owner of the house about the same time I warned one of our massage girls. A very informed reliable source told me they were being surveilled.
The massage girls listened and moved. The owner of the Wayland house told me that was BS and he would know if he was being watched.
I was just trying to help avoid this for everyone.

I think that we all knew that this was going to happen. One reason I avoided them, even though I thought about finally seeing GT Nikki. But she doesn't do outcalls to my place.

[Benz1]

Some people just have to learn the hard way. I wonder if the owner shared the surveillance info with the girls.

Police "seized electronic devices" which means they probably have their phones. And that means they might have access to their USAsexguide accounts, Facebook accounts, email, messaging apps, etc. Be safe and avoid all contact with them for now.

Owner of the Wayland house is a trusted senior member and could easily be working with LE.

FBI are involved I'm sure they are all facing a lot of charges.

The senior member kept asking me (repeatedly) for my real face book info about a year ago. He sent me his real Facebook info but I did not respond.

This is a good example of why we should never trust anyone in this hobby with our real name.

[Wolverines]

Some people just have to learn the hard way. I wonder if the owner shared the surveillance info with the girls.

Police "seized electronic devices" which means they probably have their phones. And that means they might have access to their USAsexguide accounts, Facebook accounts, email, messaging apps, etc. Be safe and avoid all contact with them for now.

I contacted 2 girls that use to live in the same house asking for verification. I'm waiting for their reply.

A monger who is not choosing to be identified at this time confirmed that the P10, Kristin, GT Nikki house is on Maple but not sure of the exact address.

I'm glad I never visited that house.
I actually warned the owner of the house about the same time I warned one of our massage girls. A very informed reliable source told me they were being surveilled.
The massage girls listened and moved. The owner of the Wayland house told me that was BS and he would know if he was being watched.
I was just trying to help avoid this for everyone.

[Benz1]

Yeah but if all you see is the back of the head? .

That was funny WJW. Thanks for the laugh, I'm still laughing.

What you say is true. The back of their heads all look the same. But I'm still not going to see the Glory Hole Guy
I like to grab a tit or two while I'm getting my dick sucked

[Benz1]

Can anyone confirm that this is where P10 and Kristin were staying? Street and block are in the article.

I contacted 2 girls that use to live in the same house asking for verification. I'm waiting for their reply.

A monger who is not choosing to be identified at this time confirmed that the P10, Kristin, GT Nikki house is on Maple but not sure of the exact address.

I'm glad I never visited that house.
I actually warned the owner of the house about the same time I warned one of our massage girls. A very informed reliable source told me they were being surveilled.
The massage girls listened and moved. The owner of the Wayland house told me that was BS and he would know if he was being watched.
I was just trying to help avoid this for everyone.

[BluBalls1]

Can anyone confirm that this is where P10 and Kristin were staying? Street and block are in the article.

The address isn't given. But they where on Maple.

Should we dump our hobby phones?

[Wolverines]

Can anyone confirm that this is where P10 and Kristin were staying? Street and block are in the article.

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rap...ug-crimes.html

[BluBalls1]

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rap...ug-crimes.html

That's to bad. I liked P10.

Considering the fed's probably got my hobby phone, should I dump it?

I never did the drug thing though.

[White300]

https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rap...ug-crimes.html

[GrassMan1984]

Looks like it might be open again as ad is up.

Tempting but too many unknowns.

Anyone ever gone?

https://cityxguide.photo/ads/gloryho...66007-22878137

This is a fantasy of mine. Watched to many porn videos when it was a hot chick on the other side. I would have to have some assurances, like see the chick go in the room, lock the door and I keep the key LOL.

[WayneJWorld]

I know it's a guy on the other side, I'm not even curious. You guys get to have fun with this one. Not For Me.

Yeah but if all you see is the back of the head? .

[Benz1]

I vote for the two highest posters Benz and Wolverines.

I know it's a guy on the other side, I'm not even curious. You guys get to have fun with this one. Not For Me.

[Member #6094]

I vote for the two highest posters Benz and Wolverines.

Someone has to be brave enough to try this, right? But don't look at me, Iam not your huckleberry. While we wait for this brave soul to surface here are some good stories on glory hole experiences:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/c...glory_hole_was.

[Wolverines]

Someone has to be brave enough to try this, right? But don't look at me, Iam not your huckleberry. While we wait for this brave soul to surface here are some good stories on glory hole experiences:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/c...glory_hole_was.

My thought is that there is a dude on the receiving end. I could be wrong, and I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum, but it seems to sketchy to me.

[Benz1]

This post was originally posted on 12/06/17.

Hopefully this clears up a few questions.

Nose Jelly is right, there have been a few chuckleHeads that have scared or chased a few UTRs away from the hobby. To ensure this doesn't continue, more screening is necessary.

I'll answer the most FAQ here but will not answer requests for my page or my friends. NoseJelly is right, it would take just one Chucklehead to blow the whole thing.

How do you do it?

Creating your fake FB page might be different for the unmarried monger, I will take you down the married road.

Buy a hobby phone. Mine is a smart tracfone cost 60. (limited space make sure you get a SD card too).

I bought a used laptop to create a new e-mail address (I might have been able to use the smart phone) the laptop is kept at work.

Built my page with a fake pic (could be my brother or cousin) used out of town schools then I moved to GR for work. Plus I linked my hobby phone to the page. Looks real. If any of your real life friends pop up as people you might know, do not ignore it, Block them so you close the door to any cross contamination.

How to find friends?

I started my friend list by friending some popular Political, TV, Radio personalities in the Grand Rapids area. They will friend you and you can then ad some of their friends. This gets your number up so you don't look so new. A lot of girls will not accept a friend that looks new to FB, it looks like a fake page. Some girls friend everyone so they can get their number up to the max of 5 k and then crown themselves queen of FB. LOL. Looks like there's a self esteem thing linked to the number of friends for some girls on FB.

I don't accept unsolicited friend requests without searching the page for girl friends that I can recognize. Most solicitations are spam, fake, cam or time bomb to send viruses through links on their page. Be careful.

How do I find a UTR provider?

Monitor your news feed for the single girls that need a ride, (the pretty ones already have a ride anywhere anytime). These will be average looking and needy. Pick them up, ask why they don't have a car, listen to the sob story, be empathetic. They will ask to borrow money, you ask how will you repay me? Listen to their story again, let them know there could be a way you don't have to pay me back. At this point you can easily get a 30 to 40 BJ and they will call you back because they need more money. You can go lower the next time. I only have 20 today but I can give you a ride too. This is exactly what happened when I met Caramel and she was eventually ready to meet Frenz of Benz because she needed furniture for her apartment. She had a job but no car and I eventually found out she had a BF too. That's when I blocked her from my phone and FB. I have moved too fast and the girls have blocked me too.

All girls should qualify for your UTR target, Average girls have pretty girl friends, I'm at a point where some girls are trusting me enough to have me meet their girl friends that need money too.

This is a complete reversal to what we're use to. You can not just say I have money who wants to Fuck. They will first say go fuck yourself and block you then their friends will block you too.

Why did I start this FB search for UTR's?

About a year ago I was reading on this thread, We like utr's because they are low volume providers and wish we had some to choose from. LOL if they are available for us to just choose then they are not utr's. They can not be found they have to be created and nursed to the point of trusting you. Takes time.

At the same time of the UTR comments on this page, the owner of BP got busted for underage girls. I knew this was the beginning of the end for PB and decided to seek other methods of getting dates. Most of the GR hookers are linked on FB with their real life friends too. Takes time for sorting but it has a payoff eventually.

I currently have a girl from Holland that drives through Greenville twice a month for personal business. Sometimes we just have lunch other times I bring my massage table and we get a room. Costing me only the price of lunch and the room. Average looking with tiny tits but she swallows very hungrily and squirts. She needs money but currently not willing to have anyone visit her family home in Holland. When she's ready I'll let Holland senior members have her digits and password.

That should answer most of the questions so far. My PM has been filling up and I don't have all the answers, we should keep this going on this page so we can all benefit from each others experiences. I'm sure that YMMV applies here too.