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  1. #3758

    Bella Touch now closed after raid.


  2. #3757
    Quote Originally Posted by LoVecchio  [View Original Post]
    I have given deposits on a couple of occasions to higher-end girls who were well reviewed and had substantial internet presence. It worked out fine. They probably had more to lose than I did under those circumstances. Still, I would only do it in exceptional cases.

    I don't blame all girls for wanting deposits. You don't have to read many reviews on this site before encountering one that says something like, "So, I went to the location given but I saw a cop drive by, so I left. " On the other hand, of course, are the ones that say, "I drove to the location and called and. . . Crickets. " It's just a question of who has the leverage. I tend to be drawn to the women who are appealing enough and appear sufficiently genuine that I would at least consider a deposit.
    I don't blame providers for wanting deposits either; many of them have been stiffed on payment before. Your last sentence is key to your approach: Women who are genuine are those who can be trusted, and I have to admit that I do break my own rule with women I trust. But I have known these women for a long time, and have seen them regularly throughout; our relationships are more FWB than SW / client. They do me favors, and I "help with the bills". But it takes many repeat visits before that level of comfort and trust is achieved.

  3. #3756

    Deposits

    I have given deposits on a couple of occasions to higher-end girls who were well reviewed and had substantial internet presence. It worked out fine. They probably had more to lose than I did under those circumstances. Still, I would only do it in exceptional cases.

    I don't blame all girls for wanting deposits. You don't have to read many reviews on this site before encountering one that says something like, "So, I went to the location given but I saw a cop drive by, so I left. " On the other hand, of course, are the ones that say, "I drove to the location and called and. . . Crickets. " It's just a question of who has the leverage. I tend to be drawn to the women who are appealing enough and appear sufficiently genuine that I would at least consider a deposit.

  4. #3755

    Re: Paying in advance

    Quote Originally Posted by IAmTheManMi  [View Original Post]
    Agreed! But just curious with your last question on what people are doing now. You said pay after you receive satisfactory service, I have always left the donation when I walk in and verify its the same provider I don't think I have waited until the end of my apt with the exception of regulars that I have seen many many times.

    How do all of you proceed with this, am I wrong in leaving it up front I would assume they need payment up front when you walk in because they don't want to get ripped off as well. LMAO its not like they can take back what they did with you or send you to collections if you don't pay LOL.
    I can understand that one might be require to pay in advance for massage. I have done massage only once, in a private home, and she asked for payment in full before we started. I broke my own rule and paid in advance because I felt she would not refuse service, and because I felt I could afford to lose 120 just to learn the truth. She told me that she required payment in advance since she had been stiffed by two different clients, one who said his money was in his car and he took off, and the other grabbed up his money from the table as he ran out. She knew of another masseuse who would toss the payment down the laundry chute, just to avoid that scenario.

    But I never pay in advance for strippers, because there is too much latitude for them to shortchange you on service. Same with escorts, although in my case, I am seeing women in their own homes, not in a hotel.

  5. #3754
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmTheManMi  [View Original Post]
    Agreed! But just curious with your last question on what people are doing now. You said pay after you receive satisfactory service, I have always left the donation when I walk in and verify its the same provider I don't think I have waited until the end of my apt with the exception of regulars that I have seen many many times.

    How do all of you proceed with this, am I wrong in leaving it up front I would assume they need payment up front when you walk in because they don't want to get ripped off as well. LMAO its not like they can take back what they did with you or send you to collections if you don't pay LOL.
    If I'm seeing a lady for the first time, I'll put the donation on a table or dresser before disrobing. I pay on the way out on repeat visits. I've only had to pickup the donation once when a lady sent me to the store for covers. She wanted me to leave the donation. But, I just snapped it up anyway. I returned and had a pretty good session even though she was high as hell. Funny thing that she wasn't messed up and went raw on repeat visits.

  6. #3753
    Quote Originally Posted by WinterKnight  [View Original Post]
    +1.

    This is not negotiable. Never pay in advance. Not even to trusted regulars. I don't laugh at mongers who make this mistake, because I had to learn the hard way too, although was a stripper, not an escort. But the rule applies for any service transaction. If you find this stipulation in an ad, especially with a request for e-payment, expect the ad is fake and you are sending your hard-earned wages to a scammer.

    Remember, their livelihood depends upon their skill at separating you from your money. Your job is to ensure you receive satisfactory services before you pay a dime.
    Agreed! But just curious with your last question on what people are doing now. You said pay after you receive satisfactory service, I have always left the donation when I walk in and verify its the same provider I don't think I have waited until the end of my apt with the exception of regulars that I have seen many many times.

    How do all of you proceed with this, am I wrong in leaving it up front I would assume they need payment up front when you walk in because they don't want to get ripped off as well. LMAO its not like they can take back what they did with you or send you to collections if you don't pay LOL.

  7. #3752

    Re: No deposit

    Quote Originally Posted by EatonBeaver  [View Original Post]
    You are correct. No deposits. Not even for regulars. End of story.

    I point and laugh at every "ripoff" report where a lady went silent after some moron sent her a deposit.
    +1.

    This is not negotiable. Never pay in advance. Not even to trusted regulars. I don't laugh at mongers who make this mistake, because I had to learn the hard way too, although was a stripper, not an escort. But the rule applies for any service transaction. If you find this stipulation in an ad, especially with a request for e-payment, expect the ad is fake and you are sending your hard-earned wages to a scammer.

    Remember, their livelihood depends upon their skill at separating you from your money. Your job is to ensure you receive satisfactory services before you pay a dime.

  8. #3751
    Quote Originally Posted by EatonBeaver  [View Original Post]
    You are correct. No deposits. Not even for regulars. End of story.

    I point and laugh at every "ripoff" report where a lady went silent after some moron sent her a deposit.
    Its just super funny the more I am contacting new girls they all have the same story and I can almost bet my life they would disappear once they get the deposit. I am sure there maybe 1 or 2 that would be real but it just blows my mind on how many people actually get ripped off and continue to do it.

    I mean what sites have most of us hobbyist have luck on because so far I have not found a good site other than Eros for the most part.

  9. #3750
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmTheManMi  [View Original Post]
    I recently made my way back into the hobby and had my regulars but now a lot of places I look at and when contacting the ladies seems like I keep running into the same song and dance and asking for deposits. Is this seriously a thing now LOL I have not given any deposits nor do I intend on it because I remember a lot of people getting scammed.

    What do you guys think is a lot of people here doing this deposit thing? I am sure if you know the person or have an on going thing I get that but never seeing the person no reviews and wanting deposits that's crazy.
    You are correct. No deposits. Not even for regulars. End of story.

    I point and laugh at every "ripoff" report where a lady went silent after some moron sent her a deposit.

  10. #3749

    Deposits?

    I recently made my way back into the hobby and had my regulars but now a lot of places I look at and when contacting the ladies seems like I keep running into the same song and dance and asking for deposits. Is this seriously a thing now LOL I have not given any deposits nor do I intend on it because I remember a lot of people getting scammed.

    What do you guys think is a lot of people here doing this deposit thing? I am sure if you know the person or have an on going thing I get that but never seeing the person no reviews and wanting deposits that's crazy.

  11. #3748

    Hobby FB

    Quote Originally Posted by Foreskin9  [View Original Post]
    How many of you guys have hobby Facebook accounts and do they work well for you?

    I see a lot of the girls talked about here are FB friends.
    Yes, I have had one for years, ever since FB suggested a new friend with "Hustler" in her profile. I contacted her and she was indeed a "hustler" who lived nearby and who had actually formerly worked at the Hustler strip club (now Dream Girls).

    Once you get a SP on FB, you may find her SP friends there too.

  12. #3747
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreskin9  [View Original Post]
    How many of you guys have hobby Facebook accounts and do they work well for you?

    I see a lot of the girls talked about here are FB friends.
    I have a whole fake profile on Facebook. I actually made it to catch a chick that I was involved with to prove she was lurking around on me. Some time later, I ended up finding who we'd come to know as Casey / Chantilly on there, met some of her acquaintances and off to the races.

  13. #3746
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreskin9  [View Original Post]
    How many of you guys have hobby Facebook accounts and do they work well for you?

    I see a lot of the girls talked about here are FB friends.
    I have one but it is for central and South America, worth having but some scammers lately, fake profiles selling video or TS that can be hard to spot 😳.

  14. #3745
    Foreskin9
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    How many of you guys have hobby Facebook accounts and do they work well for you?

    I see a lot of the girls talked about here are FB friends.

  15. #3744

    Lol

    So I have a question for you all how the fuck did the name ass wipe get put by name that's some funny and dumb as hell shit.

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