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[MrHardBody]

The women who do this can be a great opportunity.

I have had this happen with a few regulars where they will text me saying they would never ask, but they are very hungry and they need groceries for themselves or their kid. At least this is what happened with one woman. The first time with her, she offered to give services later on, but I know that the type of woman who does this sort of work is not reliable. I wasn't terribly horny at the time, but I am always down to have some fun. So I told her flat out that I really wasn't in need and did not want to put her in a situation where she owed, so if she took $20 off her normal rate for HH, extended the time to whenever I came, and we do BBGreek, that I could be over in an hour. She said she needed a little more time to prepare herself, because I also wanted her to dress a certain way for me. She did and I gave her the normal rate plus $20 because she put a lot of effort into it and really, I know she toughed out some real soreness but didn't ask for extra cash. I respected that. So or a while during COVID, we would meet up from time to time with a similar arrangement, we became very friendly and I took her out a few times to some decent places when they started opening up (not as anything more than as a buddy). As they usually do, she found a guy who would pay her bills and we lost touch. But she knew that if she ran low on money that I would likely have a hard dick that she would have to fulfill a need for and that if she didn't give me attitude and did a great job, there would be something in it extra at the end.

I've been down this route. I met this chick online in 2019. We locked eyes and felt a connection the moment we met. I became her regular because she treated me good, made me feel good sexually and mentally, never judged me, never on her phone, didn't smoke weed (or at least I never saw it), and had great conversations. I wish I would've met her earlier in life. Long story short, we've been through a lot. I've helped her out without asking for anything in return. $20 here, $50 here, $60 here, etc.; however, she did something that lost my trust completely.

I gave her money to get a room because it's hard for us to spend quality time together. She completely lied about reserving a room. Once was in 2021 (I sent her $150) and two weeks ago (I sent $100). It's always some bullshit with her family AFTER I send money. I really wanted to see her a few weeks ago. I asked her to do something simple: reserve a room. She said that the motel had no rooms available when she went there via Uber, but when I called, they said rooms are available. I confronted her about this, but she completely avoided answering only by saying that she would never betray me, "do you love me? And "why don't you answer my calls? Gaslighting. I hung up.

Last week, she called me at 11 pm saying that "she's stuck" at a party. I'm hearing voices in the back. This late? I hung up again.

You're right! I put myself in this situation because she made me feel good. Yes, the head is great, but it's not worth the bs and trouble. I would say we were friends, but like most friendships, they end, usually due to growing apart or something worse like lying.

[Black Escape]

I've had this with many. The more you do, the more they are 'friend zoning' you and you're asking for trouble.

Can it continue? Yeah, sure, but you are forever friend zone and the 'new guy' is forever a potential multimillionaire Chad who will sweep them away.

Never, ever, ever.

I spoke to one about how hard it is to even get new regs who will do any sort validating. But, I also have experience with many that they will bend those rules in a heartbeat, while what they'll do to 'friends' who complain about how badly they're treated for advancing funds, taking them out, etc. , is nightmarish. Never treat it as anything but a transaction and never advance.

The women who do this can be a great opportunity.

I have had this happen with a few regulars where they will text me saying they would never ask, but they are very hungry and they need groceries for themselves or their kid. At least this is what happened with one woman. The first time with her, she offered to give services later on, but I know that the type of woman who does this sort of work is not reliable. I wasn't terribly horny at the time, but I am always down to have some fun. So I told her flat out that I really wasn't in need and did not want to put her in a situation where she owed, so if she took $20 off her normal rate for HH, extended the time to whenever I came, and we do BBGreek, that I could be over in an hour. She said she needed a little more time to prepare herself, because I also wanted her to dress a certain way for me. She did and I gave her the normal rate plus $20 because she put a lot of effort into it and really, I know she toughed out some real soreness but didn't ask for extra cash. I respected that. So or a while during COVID, we would meet up from time to time with a similar arrangement, we became very friendly and I took her out a few times to some decent places when they started opening up (not as anything more than as a buddy). As they usually do, she found a guy who would pay her bills and we lost touch. But she knew that if she ran low on money that I would likely have a hard dick that she would have to fulfill a need for and that if she didn't give me attitude and did a great job, there would be something in it extra at the end.

I feel that this is the best you are going to get from someone who is in this line a business. It seems to me that if the correlation between payment and pussy becomes obscured by anything, that they will take full advantage, so making sure the two are linked is essential.

I did something similar with another woman. She was married and the guy was a lazy deadbeat who just sat there and played video games. They were both fat, her much less so, though. She was like average height, 140. He was in the 300's. I knew it devastated him when I would come over, but they needed money and he was literally shiftless. Always wore the same clothes. She had a job but needed extra money, plus they were gigantic potheads. I just don't get how people can live these lifestyles. I'd come by on Fridays and do similar. I also did take her out a few times. She liked seafood so I treated her to Eddie V's. That lump had the nerve to ask to go. We laughed about that. Anyhow, they're down in Florida now.

Its okay to become chummy as long as they always understand that anything above negotiated terms is at your discretion.

One last thing. If you are going to go down the route of becoming buddy-buddy with a working girl, make sure to be introspective of things and make sure you don't get taken advantage of or become a "simp" as the kids say nowadays.

[Taz41]

I don't blame providers for wanting deposits either; many of them have been stiffed on payment before. Your last sentence is key to your approach: Women who are genuine are those who can be trusted, and I have to admit that I do break my own rule with women I trust. But I have known these women for a long time, and have seen them regularly throughout; our relationships are more FWB than SW / client. They do me favors, and I "help with the bills". But it takes many repeat visits before that level of comfort and trust is achieved.

I've had this with many. The more you do, the more they are 'friend zoning' you and you're asking for trouble.

Can it continue? Yeah, sure, but you are forever friend zone and the 'new guy' is forever a potential multimillionaire Chad who will sweep them away.

Never, ever, ever.

I spoke to one about how hard it is to even get new regs who will do any sort validating. But, I also have experience with many that they will bend those rules in a heartbeat, while what they'll do to 'friends' who complain about how badly they're treated for advancing funds, taking them out, etc. , is nightmarish. Never treat it as anything but a transaction and never advance.

[TomSmith26]

Oh, I completely agree with you, Papa Be. I've made that mistake a few years ago, too, with escorts who I saw for more than two years. Not that they refused service or failed to show; but yes, a couple of times, service was delayed by errands until my free time was exhausted, or service was minimal or perfunctory, or they "forget" that I paid in advance and need another payment.

The UTR girls I see currently are more trustworthy, and have never asked for or expected payment in advance.

White Knight clear out your mailbox and message me please.

[GuyDetroit]

Looks like dpd was pretty active on the 10th of April making several busts by Dakota and the are. Be safe.

[MichWinter15]

Its down for me too. But I have VPN so it could be that.

On a side note, I've noticed it's poor search results lately. Seems like it's missing about 50% of all posts. It's certainly been lacking in its scraping ability lately.

Damn, looks like sumosear. Ch is down and has been all day.

Hope it doesn't disappear b / c I use it all the time to look out for scams.

Sumosearch is working fine for me too. I've got an android using Firefox and no problems so far. Possibly an ISP or Apple blocking the connection for some reason.

I agree it's been going downhill though as far as postings though.

...What do you all do to research providers?

Besides Sumo, I try to use USG, CallEscort, EB and TER whenever possible.

[FunnyBoner]

Damn, looks like sumosear. Ch is down and has been all day.

Hope it doesn't disappear b / c I use it all the time to look out for scams.

Its down for me too. But I have VPN so it could be that.

On a side note, I've noticed it's poor search results lately. Seems like it's missing about 50% of all posts. It's certainly been lacking in its scraping ability lately.

[Simp5050]

Working fine on my end. Android ATT.

I'm not sure if it came up for a second, or you are loading it from cache, because it's down.

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/sumosear.ch

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/sumosear.ch.html

https://www.freshworks.com/website-m...wn/sumosear.ch

What do you all do to research providers?

[No Choice]

Damn, looks like sumosear. Ch is down and has been all day.

Hope it doesn't disappear b / c I use it all the time to look out for scams.

Working fine on my end. Android ATT.

[Simp5050]

Damn, looks like sumosear. Ch is down and has been all day.

Hope it doesn't disappear b / c I use it all the time to look out for scams.

[Checkers123]

Moved From The Seeking Arrangement's Thread

I posted a similar question in SW REPORTS forum. I don't want to show license info, or use credit card. A user there said the Redford Hotel on Telegraph does not require license I'd. If I ever try it I'll report about it.

For other motels. I guess one could buy a pre paid VISA with cash, and use that to pay for the room, but, still need to avoid leaving drives license info.

I haven't had any luck not showing a driver's license to get the room. For booking, I use dayuse.com. Depending on the hotel, I have been able to give them the card for incidentals and tell them not to swipe it as I will pay cash when I check out. Its been 99% effective. Although onetime a new employee ran it by mistake and the checkout procedure was a about 30 minutes longer than I wanted it to be. It was a work card so I fared ok. A pre-paid visa should work.

I just don't want my license copied, or to even print my name, DL number on a hotel's registration card at the hotel. (Or give car's plate number). I just don't like the idea of a paper trail, and want a way around it.

Are you saying you leave your Credit card with the clerk, then pay cash when leaving and get your card back? Seems risky to leave your CC with the clerk. I think he could just take a photo of it, and sell it to someone?

I have thought of getting a pre-paid visa, but was not sure they work at merchants? I would be happy to simply pay the hotel cash. If they accept cash without a CC or Drivers license simply so they know who they are renting to. Maybe they don't care? I have not rented a room in over a decade, short stay or legit hotel.

I don't leave my DL or CC with the clerk. They swipe the CC, but they don't run it until check out. Depending on the place, I pay for the room in cash, and tell them I will pay in cash for any incidentals and that way the card never gets used. But at your level of concern, (No DL, No license plate, No CC, no hotel registration) you may end up at some real sketchy places that to me, would not be worth the risk.

[WinterKnight]

You can't really believe that! I've had similar experiences with women I've seen for years. I still wouldn't give them any coin beforehand. Eventually, you will get ripped off by one of those chicks that you think is your FWB. This is a business to them and pleasure for us. I won't give any chick a deposit. I've made that mistake. Papa Be.

Oh, I completely agree with you, Papa Be. I've made that mistake a few years ago, too, with escorts who I saw for more than two years. Not that they refused service or failed to show; but yes, a couple of times, service was delayed by errands until my free time was exhausted, or service was minimal or perfunctory, or they "forget" that I paid in advance and need another payment.

The UTR girls I see currently are more trustworthy, and have never asked for or expected payment in advance.

[TomSmith26]

https://youtu.be/R7iq0JzWsZk?si=iiDoKI-0i9-SbOyj

Can anyone PM me with joy cell phone number.

[TheRioSteve]

Be ready for those price bumps fellas! One of my regulars told me she's raising prices "next month" but will still charge her normal fee to certain repeat clients. The upscale girls will be flooding the market soon too. Don't forget our uncle is gearing up for stings as well. Stick to your regulars or head to Flint, Toledo, GR maybe. Use the big head and spidey sense. Be careful out there.

[PapaBoner78]

I don't blame providers for wanting deposits either; many of them have been stiffed on payment before. Your last sentence is key to your approach: Women who are genuine are those who can be trusted, and I have to admit that I do break my own rule with women I trust. But I have known these women for a long time, and have seen them regularly throughout; our relationships are more FWB than SW / client. They do me favors, and I "help with the bills". But it takes many repeat visits before that level of comfort and trust is achieved.

You can't really believe that! I've had similar experiences with women I've seen for years. I still wouldn't give them any coin beforehand. Eventually, you will get ripped off by one of those chicks that you think is your FWB. This is a business to them and pleasure for us. I won't give any chick a deposit. I've made that mistake. Papa Be.