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[KashkaiBoy]

This sounds right to me. This might not be helpful but I'd suggest first trying to open up to your wife honestly about your sexual needs. If you and she are not clicking, she deserves you to be as honest as you can about it. I know of a few friends who have had the conversation with spouses which led to an understanding that occasional non-emotionally connected extramural sexual activity, with protections, could be acceptable (in a don't ask / don't tell way). If both sides can get on the same page about what is valuable about the marriage -- which could be parenting together, financial reasons, affection, support, etc. -- sex might not have to be the measure of commitment. But that won't work in every situation, and if for your wife monogamy is an absolute must, then either you need to figure out how to stay away from AMPs or you need to end the marriage and deal with the consequences. I'm sure I don't need to tell you, living the life of a liar is really shitty and takes a toll on you. And you seem like a good guy, I'm sure you can understand why your wife is acting the way she does.

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

[MajorJohnson]

What about saying your back is sore and you need a massage? Not sure how much she knows but I believe in hiding in plane sight. If you tell her you are trying a massage place because some random guy told you that woman does a good massage and it really helped his back. If she's cool with the idea that opens up a ton of possibilities. Good luck.

My buddy told his wife that the guy he sees does a good job, and it's actually a girl who does a great job "plus".

[Woody32]

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

What about saying your back is sore and you need a massage? Not sure how much she knows but I believe in hiding in plane sight. If you tell her you are trying a massage place because some random guy told you that woman does a good massage and it really helped his back. If she's cool with the idea that opens up a ton of possibilities. Good luck.

[Amppro95]

If you're under the level of scrutiny you describe, it would be prudent to assume that the techniques and tactics your wife is currently using will (at some point) change, evolve, and adapt, in unexpected ways.

For example, you could get everything well-sorted as far as your phone is concerned, and she could unexpectedly hide an Air Tag, or similar tracker, in your car or in some other thing you might not suspect.

Since you're in an especially dicey position, as a third strike is likely to be your last, my main point is that you can't ever afford to let your guard down and need to always be thinking ahead. Even with that, the risk-reward ratio is rather precarious. I certainly understand your urges, but your situation definitely calls for thinking about what could happen in a worst-case scenario. Good luck!

I have spent a lot of time thinking about that, she could very easily place a GPS tracker on my truck, my greatest fear is that she hires a private eye and gets a detailed report with pics and video.

I think its time for me to wave the white flag and give up the mongering except maybe the completely random visit maybe once a year. I'm actually friends with 2 different private eyes and so not only do I know their techniques but know how much they cost per hour, so if she was to get one, she could only do it for so long getting zero results. I'd like to thank everyone who responded to this thread, I appreciate the thoughts, ideas and help.

AMP.

[JmSuttr]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

If you're under the level of scrutiny you describe, it would be prudent to assume that the techniques and tactics your wife is currently using will (at some point) change, evolve, and adapt, in unexpected ways.

For example, you could get everything well-sorted as far as your phone is concerned, and she could unexpectedly hide an Air Tag, or similar tracker, in your car or in some other thing you might not suspect.

Since you're in an especially dicey position, as a third strike is likely to be your last, my main point is that you can't ever afford to let your guard down and need to always be thinking ahead. Even with that, the risk-reward ratio is rather precarious. I certainly understand your urges, but your situation definitely calls for thinking about what could happen in a worst-case scenario. Good luck!

[DonnnyBravo]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

Various options, some better than others.

1 - if it has a physical SIM, move the SIM to a different phone and keep the other phone on in a wifi area where you want to appear.

2 - ATT has NumberSync that you can use the same number on multiple devices.

3 - have call forwarding set, but this may show the caller the switching of number.

4 - GPS spoofer app to set a specific location on your phone. Lock it in while at work, the mall, casino, home depot, etc.

5 - turn off location services on you phone when out. This could look fishy if she's always tracking.

These might not all work out the same but are possibilities. I'm sure there are more options out there.

[Amppro95]

Looking for help, suggestions, I asked this question a cpl of years ago and never found anything that worked, hoping technology has improved or someone else has an idea. I've been mongering for 30 years, married 28, my wife has caught me twice and has stayed with me contingent on me going to counseling, us together going, and her having open access to my phone as well as being tracked through my phone by her, many will ask " why would you put up with that BS?" , well, many, many reasons including children but most importantly money, insurance, its very complicated. Anyway,

On my days off I'd like to visit an AMP, I can't leave my phone at home because she randomly texts throughout the morning and day, " how are you?" what are you doing? If I don't respond within a reasonable amount of time, she'll know I just left my phone at home. If I take my phone with me, " why were you at _ in Salem ma for 1 hour?" ect, ect. If I turn off my location, I get " why is your location off?

My question, is there any kind of APP that I can leave my phone at home but have the # on a second phone for responding to texts but would show my location as home? Or any other Idea's?

My thing is really AMPs as I love the Asians, I've had prostitutes over to the house on days off that way my location is good but then I'm opening myself up to a whole other level of danger.

Any help is greatly appreciated, PM is fine as well. Thank you!

AMP.

[LustyB]

These are apps I've used in the past, but not recently:

Flyp and 2nd Line, both free (last time I checked). Maybe someone in the forum might have info that's more up to date. Good luck!

I use text free and text now. I find most girls are fine with setting up dates by text. I used to use a burner phone but it too much trouble. I keep the text apps buried deep in sub folders and turn off notifications. If a girl won't take texts from an app, fuck her. We have to stay safe too.

[JmSuttr]

This app is practically useless now. If you're on a hunt one morning and strolling through ads, the app will only allow you to message 2-3 new numbers. If you don't get responses, it basically stops you from sending new messages up to a period of time. This is prevent SPAM from what it says. I still don't use my real number and haven't used it for years now. What are most of you Mongers using now a days? I could get a pre-paid phone. But it's one more device that I don't want to carry around.

These are apps I've used in the past, but not recently:

Flyp and 2nd Line, both free (last time I checked). Maybe someone in the forum might have info that's more up to date. Good luck!

[SalamanderFour]

This app is practically useless now. If you're on a hunt one morning and strolling through ads, the app will only allow you to message 2-3 new numbers. If you don't get responses, it basically stops you from sending new messages up to a period of time. This is prevent SPAM from what it says. I still don't use my real number and haven't used it for years now. What are most of you Mongers using now a days? I could get a pre-paid phone. But it's one more device that I don't want to carry around.

None of Google free services (including Gmail, Voice) are anonymous. If you use Google services, sooner or later Google will identify you even if you don't use your real name. Some have reported that a search of the Google voice number shows a link to their true name, etc.

I admit, google voice is convenient, but not as secure as a true burner phone.

[Mattis1775]

This app is practically useless now. If you're on a hunt one morning and strolling through ads, the app will only allow you to message 2-3 new numbers. If you don't get responses, it basically stops you from sending new messages up to a period of time. This is prevent SPAM from what it says. I still don't use my real number and haven't used it for years now. What are most of you Mongers using now a days? I could get a pre-paid phone. But it's one more device that I don't want to carry around.

[Chulgoon]

I you scan through this guy's post you'd see that he's referring to something that happened in Dallas. Couldn't find any reference to it on the internet.

https://egov.ci.irving.tx.us/in-cust..._incustody.pdf

Also talking in Atlanta board the bust. Dallas do not use this board much for hobby another one much more popular there.

[Nrlmus]

Just want to share Boston. Some K place got bust the a day ago. I think 2 at least. But seem not HSI this time but local policies I guess. Peace Boston.

I you scan through this guy's post you'd see that he's referring to something that happened in Dallas. Couldn't find any reference to it on the internet.

[JmSuttr]

And it's going to have to wait even more now. Looks like the oral arguments will be schedules for September or later.

Freaking crazy that without the press insisting on opening up the original proceedings this would have been out in the open now (assuming the clerk magistrate allowed the cases to move forward).

One another note, what a waste of the justice system. All this for what, a couple of misdemeanors?

https://www.ma-appellatecourts.org/docket/SJC-13551

"03/06/2024 #7 Order:

This matter came before the court on the joint motion to schedule oral argument in order to accommodate briefing under the rules of appellate procedure filed by appellants John Does 1-18 (John Does). The joint motion is ALLOWED for the reasons set forth therein. The consolidated brief, to the extent possible, for the John Does and the brief for the appellants Trustees of Boston University, Boston Globe Media Partners, LLC, and intervener WBTS Television, LLC shall be filed on or before April 17,2024. The brief for the appellee Clerk-Magistrate of the Cambridge District Court shall be filed on or before May 17,2024. Oral argument may be scheduled for the September sitting of the court.

As of 03/06/2024 3:20 pm".

So, with the SJC session ending in May, they decided to require all briefs be filed during the current session, but punted the oral arguments until the next session, which begins in September. That doesn't inconvenience the prosecution or LE very much as they can simply push the "pause" button and work on other things. For defendants, unfortunately, it means 6+ months of continuing uncertainty and inability to move on with their lives.

You're 100% correct that this is all due to the media's demand for public hearings. Unless I missed something, I don't recall the prosecution expressing a preference, one way or the other. And nobody likes having to work under a microscope, which makes me think that even prosecutors would have preferred private hearings, all of which would likely have been over by now.

You're also correct that the underlying cases are misdemeanors. But the due process issues appealed to the SJC are fundamental constitutional questions that fall appropriately under their jurisdiction. Had they declined to hear the appeal, it's likely (IMO) defendants would have appealed to the federal courts. And there's still a possibility that could happen, depending on how the SJC eventually rules.

Random thoughts:

- The various media outlets are going to be majorly pissed. I fully expect one or more rounds of outraged stories about the public's "right to know," and similar BS. They may shift gears to focus on the federal case, but they'll still be pissed. And there could also be another round of media petitions to the court.

- The federal case should proceed at normal speed, unless unusual motions are filed. It's rather straightforward and I'll be surprised if any of the three defendants will risk a trial. They'd be much smarter to negotiate a plea deal, but that will most likely happen only after all the discoverable materials have been examined by the defense. Hard to predict the timing with any certainty, but it's entirely possible for the federal case to be wrapped up (except for sentencing) before the SJC reconvenes in September. One caveat to this: If one of the three defendants is clearly the leader, then fed prosecutors might cut deals with the other two while proceeding to put the "ringleader" on trial. That would serve their purpose of "sending a message" while also satisfying media demands.

- From all recent and relevant court filing info, we're still talking about 18 "John Doe" defendants. Which brings us back to the question I've asked several times about WTF happened to the other 10 (of the DOJ-announced 28)? That's a head-scratcher for me as I still haven't seen or heard a satisfactory explanation. I offered a possible theory, in a previous post, but it remains pure speculation. Curiouser and curiouser!

[Hyperion11]

Sounds like it is getting a full hearing and latest update is scheduling oral hearings that allow 40 days to file briefs.

The irony is that, for all the bleating in the media about John Does trying to keep their names private, if the media hadn't so goddamn bloodthirsty about making this different because it involved sex and potential celebrity and just let this run through normal channels, they would have had the names and documents of anyone with a real case against them a month ago.

And it's going to have to wait even more now. Looks like the oral arguments will be schedules for September or later.

Freaking crazy that without the press insisting on opening up the original proceedings this would have been out in the open now (assuming the clerk magistrate allowed the cases to move forward).

One another note, what a waste of the justice system. All this for what, a couple of misdemeanors?