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[CCChunks]

There is a new development: https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/...arrests-johns/.

They interviewed a "lawyer who represents some of them." If I heard right it means that paperwork should be in the mailboxes or soon to be.

"However, the Court has recognized the very limited exception where legitimate public interest outweighs the individuals' privacy rights. ".

FINE but why is Epstein LIST / client protected like Fort Knox.

[Comcast7777]

Don't think so. Just says that people reached out to him when the news first broke. Nothing new in there.

There is a new development: https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/...arrests-johns/.

They interviewed a "lawyer who represents some of them." If I heard right it means that paperwork should be in the mailboxes or soon to be.

[TheGodsDecree]

Please remove post if inappropriate. I don't know the correct forum to share news.

https://www.nefac.org/wp-content/upl...for-access.pdf

Has anyone involved received any paperwork yet?

There is a new development: https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/...arrests-johns/.

They interviewed a "lawyer who represents some of them." If I heard right it means that paperwork should be in the mailboxes or soon to be.

[Mattis1775]

https://www.boston.com/news/crime/20...p_featurestack

Wow. This was pretty extreme, at the Hilton in Back Bay, a knife and a gun was involved. WTF. The Monger had guts to report this to the desk. Now, the the wants to prosecute him at a later date. They should be focusing heavily on the Escort and the asshole rather than the Monger. He just wanted sex. The girl and the asshole could've killed the guy. I wonder which ad she posted.

Be safe out there.

[DJrunner]

I have not and like you stated, milking table along with glory hole, you don't know who's sucking you off. Plus the price I see advertised for service is beyond ridiculous. Have fun yet count me as a hard NO.

I saw a few ads that offer milking table massage, which is very interesting. I'm certain that it's a lot of fun and you can easily see what it is on any porn sites. Here's the thing. What if you can't see below the table. It could be a dude for all you know. Of course, if you can see that's perfectly fine. Here you are paying 300+, thinking the gorgeous lady is doing it, where it's someone else.

If anyone had experience with the milking tables, I would love to hear it.

[Bran001]

Why commit perjury.

"I wish to assert my 5th amendment privilege".

Why answer anything?

As I said, not everyone has the "constitution" to do that. Many people want it to go away fast for obvious reasons. Particularly if one is married, has family members, and a workplace, that they wish to not find out. I'm not saying that's the "right" or "preferred" approach, but LE will dangle reasons for going down that path.

[LustyB]

1. Well and good, but when someone being interviewed by the FBI, perhaps under oath, doesn't know ALL the evidence they have. . . Are they willing to lie / perjure themselves with the "it wasn't me that sent that photo of me" line? What if they have an IP address or a cell phone location, etc etc. Not all are able to simply stfu and make LE prove EVERYTHING.

2. I would guess that many people at this point would not go public here with "I'll be in court in January. " They would have already had weeks and weeks of anxiety built up, family members, employers, and friends that either have found out or will. . . If it were me I'd not be still posting online about all this. But maybe that's just me.

Why commit perjury.

"I wish to assert my 5th amendment privilege".

Why answer anything?

[Bran001]

I think the one advantage that people may potentially have is that anyone could send a picture of someone else and say it's them. Catfishing has been around since day 1 of the internet. Am I really going to get in trouble because someone sent a picture of me and claimed to be me and then possibly solicited an escort? There's no proof of who was actually on that end of the phone.

I go back and forth between whether people in this group need to get lucky to be passed over or if they just don't have the probable cause and that people in this group (didn't get pulled over, didn't pay with Zelle) are safe.

1. Well and good, but when someone being interviewed by the FBI, perhaps under oath, doesn't know ALL the evidence they have. . . Are they willing to lie / perjure themselves with the "it wasn't me that sent that photo of me" line? What if they have an IP address or a cell phone location, etc etc. Not all are able to simply stfu and make LE prove EVERYTHING.

2. I would guess that many people at this point would not go public here with "I'll be in court in January. " They would have already had weeks and weeks of anxiety built up, family members, employers, and friends that either have found out or will. . . If it were me I'd not be still posting online about all this. But maybe that's just me.

[Mattis1775]

I saw a few ads that offer milking table massage, which is very interesting. I'm certain that it's a lot of fun and you can easily see what it is on any porn sites. Here's the thing. What if you can't see below the table. It could be a dude for all you know. Of course, if you can see that's perfectly fine. Here you are paying 300+, thinking the gorgeous lady is doing it, where it's someone else.

If anyone had experience with the milking tables, I would love to hear it.

[CCChunks]

I believe he is referring to this. There was a picture with 3 books, but can't find it.

The one I was referring to you only need to watch the reporters vid to see it.

[Hobax]

Please remove post if inappropriate. I don't know the correct forum to share news.

https://www.nefac.org/wp-content/upl...for-access.pdf

Has anyone involved received any paperwork yet?

[Comcast7777]

I think the one advantage that people may potentially have is that anyone could send a picture of someone else and say it's them. Catfishing has been around since day 1 of the internet. Am I really going to get in trouble because someone sent a picture of me and claimed to be me and then possibly solicited an escort? There's no proof of who was actually on that end of the phone.

I go back and forth between whether people in this group need to get lucky to be passed over or if they just don't have the probable cause and that people in this group (didn't get pulled over, didn't pay with Zelle) are safe.

I would think you would've gotten one by now since it seems like it was Monday / Tuesday they filed the complaints (which open to media off a complaint?? Seems a little harsh) And mail in-state doesn't take all that long. My guess is the ones they stopped, plus anyone that sent money through zelle (I guess that was an option? Read that somewhere, Never would do that much since there was already enough of a paper trail to begin with). But I would think the best approach would be the "I was lonely and just wanted to hangout with a cute girl, no sex" would be a good defense since the texts don't totally state you are there for sex and as far as I know no video on the inside, they say you paid whatever it was for an hour of bb. Counter with I wanted the girl to get as much as she could but we just hungout watching kdramas (I actually did that once 🤣, I was bored leave me alone, got a whole 4 hours since she wasn't busy and it was early in the morning).

[ArtArt112]

Where is that screenshot?

I believe he is referring to this. There was a picture with 3 books, but can't find it.

[ArtArt112]

Does anyone have a rough timeline for all of this? If they filed the paperwork on Monday, when could one expect to get the summons in the mail if you are one of the unlucky 28? And when would the hearing with the magistrate take place?

Basically wondering when the rest of the group can breathe a temporary sigh of relief.

I would think you would've gotten one by now since it seems like it was Monday / Tuesday they filed the complaints (which open to media off a complaint?? Seems a little harsh) And mail in-state doesn't take all that long. My guess is the ones they stopped, plus anyone that sent money through zelle (I guess that was an option? Read that somewhere, Never would do that much since there was already enough of a paper trail to begin with). But I would think the best approach would be the "I was lonely and just wanted to hangout with a cute girl, no sex" would be a good defense since the texts don't totally state you are there for sex and as far as I know no video on the inside, they say you paid whatever it was for an hour of bb. Counter with I wanted the girl to get as much as she could but we just hungout watching kdramas (I actually did that once 🤣, I was bored leave me alone, got a whole 4 hours since she wasn't busy and it was early in the morning).

Then again I am no expert by any means, but I feel like agreeing to pay for time and actually agreeing to sex are totally different (image being summoned as a juror on this &#129315. Because I always answered in short hand and never more than needed (I. E person name, time and option, and saying here). Also apparently we are in the same class as elite and wealthy people? Would be rather awkward if after all that huffing and puffing about this being an "exclusive" club catering to the elite and weathly they only muster up slightly well off people (I. E construction workers, electricians, etc) I personally would not consider myself wealthy or elite by any means, I had to save money to visit them &#129315.

Also the statement I saw on the news "if they robbed a bank, they would be all over the news", really? Did you just compare a crime where you hold people hostage to just wanting to get laid? Also let's say they get what they want and every single person gets charged, what's the benefit? You scared people from an age group from risking it, guess what? In 5-20 years there's a new cycle of people and it starts all over again. It's sad when people are legit sex trafficked, but if you paying $100 and the girl looks strung out that doesn't seem happy and you went through someone else. That should throw up some red flags and is just wrong. It's the world's oldest profession. Most of them do it for quick money that would set them for life back home after a few years or feed a habit they developed of their own accord. I always assumed the reason the charges aren't harsh for mongers is because it's pointless, there's always someone new born. And men are simple creatures.

All in all, I think this is stupid and fueled by groups putting in their 2 cents to get on the band wagon. Of course I fall under the group at risk so I'm not totally carefree and am worried. But if it happens so be it, I don't expect much luck in this life. I'm not wealthy or elite 🤣, so my luck isn't up there obviously.

[Mattis1775]

I like to give back to the community which I take so much from.

Volunteer at the holiday party for giving gifts and treats to the community.

Two of the local girls who are WSW recognized me. We exchanged pleasantries.

They hit me up privately afterwards. I gave them a generous donation. I was feeling charitable. They offered to return the favor but I declined.

Enjoy your holidays.

Nice work. I'm sure when they see you again, they'll be providing extra service. The ones that I've repeated have given me more when I bought them something from McD or DD from a previous meet. Let's see what 2024 brings us. Streets have been quiet with no familiar faces. It's a hit or miss now.