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  1. #2967
    Quote Originally Posted by BetterThanU  [View Original Post]
    With that. You'll be hard pressed to find a a provider that will let you pay afterwards, especially for a first time. I have established trust with a few, who I've seen multiple times and I always pay afterwards and it's not a big deal.

    Put yourself in her shoes for a second. What if you don't feel the service is up to your standards (which can be subjective) and then you decide you don't want to pay, she's out of luck and just got used or you're an asshole and you just want to take advantage of someone? It happens, guys have paid upfront and then after, have taken the money back and left.

    As a man in this situation, we hold the upper hand in the power dynamic, so I think it's better to just pay upfront until you she is comfortable with you. Plus, I believe that most of these girls want return customers and will put forth a decent effort. If she doesn't or she rips you off, don't go back and make sure to report her here.

    I have been lucky, that I've never been ripped off. Lousy service? Yes. Ripped off? No.

    So to sum it up, I believe in just pay upfront, no need to start off with her being apprehensive and wondering if you're trying to rip her off. Most high end escorts will tell you: Get the transaction out of the way, so we can focus on the fun.
    This right here.

    Get the messy stuff over with & get to business.

  2. #2966

    Good luck

    Quote Originally Posted by FourthTwin  [View Original Post]
    I've read a few mongers here say that they do not pay till after the services have been rendered. How does that work for you? I'm sure that greatly lessens the chance of being taken or paying up front then getting a lackluster performance but how do you approach that with a provider? You chat over the phone and agree upon a price, time, location, and possibly services. You get there and walk in and tell her you will pay after the deed is done. If she wants the money she either accepts it that way or she denies. Do you walk out at that point? And I'm sure you don't tell her that over the phone because she probably won't give you the address. I've read so many times when you exchange the money the girl finds some reason to excuse herself to another room or the bathroom possibly to contact her handler or muscle. He then rushes into the room or pounds on the door telling you to get out thus you've gotten no services and you've already parted with the money. I guess if she never gets the money then she would have no reason to excuse herself from the room. And, if she really wants the money she'd do the work first. But I guess they don't want to do the work anyway so that's why they pull his scam.

    Has this ever worked for anyone? You get to the location and tell the girl she will get her money after the serves have been completed. Did she go with it or not? And if she didn't did you up and leave?.
    With that. You'll be hard pressed to find a a provider that will let you pay afterwards, especially for a first time. I have established trust with a few, who I've seen multiple times and I always pay afterwards and it's not a big deal.

    Put yourself in her shoes for a second. What if you don't feel the service is up to your standards (which can be subjective) and then you decide you don't want to pay, she's out of luck and just got used or you're an asshole and you just want to take advantage of someone? It happens, guys have paid upfront and then after, have taken the money back and left.

    As a man in this situation, we hold the upper hand in the power dynamic, so I think it's better to just pay upfront until you she is comfortable with you. Plus, I believe that most of these girls want return customers and will put forth a decent effort. If she doesn't or she rips you off, don't go back and make sure to report her here.

    I have been lucky, that I've never been ripped off. Lousy service? Yes. Ripped off? No.

    So to sum it up, I believe in just pay upfront, no need to start off with her being apprehensive and wondering if you're trying to rip her off. Most high end escorts will tell you: Get the transaction out of the way, so we can focus on the fun.

  3. #2965

    Paying after the service is done

    I've read a few mongers here say that they do not pay till after the services have been rendered. How does that work for you? I'm sure that greatly lessens the chance of being taken or paying up front then getting a lackluster performance but how do you approach that with a provider? You chat over the phone and agree upon a price, time, location, and possibly services. You get there and walk in and tell her you will pay after the deed is done. If she wants the money she either accepts it that way or she denies. Do you walk out at that point? And I'm sure you don't tell her that over the phone because she probably won't give you the address. I've read so many times when you exchange the money the girl finds some reason to excuse herself to another room or the bathroom possibly to contact her handler or muscle. He then rushes into the room or pounds on the door telling you to get out thus you've gotten no services and you've already parted with the money. I guess if she never gets the money then she would have no reason to excuse herself from the room. And, if she really wants the money she'd do the work first. But I guess they don't want to do the work anyway so that's why they pull his scam.

    Has this ever worked for anyone? You get to the location and tell the girl she will get her money after the serves have been completed. Did she go with it or not? And if she didn't did you up and leave?

    If my memory serves me correctly I've only gotten taken once. I met a girl at her apt and we were upstairs getting undressed. I had already given her the money. This was a few years ago so prices were cheaper then. I think I only gave her like $50. When we were undressed there was a knock on her door so I had to hide out upstairs until the guy left. I guess I was up there 20 or 30 minutes or so until he finally left but when she came upstairs she told me he was her bf and he was going to the store and would be right back so I had to get out. Of course she told me he was only going to be there a short time then he was leaving again so we could continue. Of course that was a lie. I sat in my car down the street and could see her apt. He came back but never left so I was out that money. He probably did leave but out the back door where I couldn't see that he had left. And of course she wasn't about to give it back to me while he ran to the store. Yeah, I've had times where I paid girls and they did perform but their services were lack luster or they refused to do what they agreed upon.

  4. #2964
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiett  [View Original Post]
    No, tried that today. Sent me first room not very good looking, second room to heavy. Not my taste therefore I left. I would not recommend!
    Please don't post exact locations.

    The thick one was super freaky. BBBJ, anal, cof, etc. She also eats pussy really well. She had the other girl squirting all over the place. Both very clean. No drug addicts as the normal for the Dominican services.

    They are gone now.

  5. #2963

    Blackbeard's

    Quote Originally Posted by FiveOfSix  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone local made a pilgrimage to Blackbeard's in the DR? There's a direct from CLT to POP. PM's are fine.
    I and a couple of homies went there back in mid 2000's. Not worth it. Been to DR at least 11 times since then.

    Had much better times just going to Sousa or PP, getting a spot / Airbnb, and paying for a guide / driver for the week. Much cheaper and much more fun.

    I personally had more fun at a luxury Resort in Sousa where you can't bring in any Chicas or you can be arrested. But 90% of the maids and female staff in the resorts are open for business in singles or doubles. You never have to leave the resort.

  6. #2962
    Quote Originally Posted by FiveOfSix  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone local made a pilgrimage to Blackbeard's in the DR? There's a direct from CLT to POP. PM's are fine.
    Highly recommended. Here is a sample link of the talent.

    https://myemail.constantcontact.com/...id=qQlzk3fcD8M

    LM.

  7. #2961

    Tgtbt

    Some of the smart members have said that the pics used by a lot of these girls, are swiped from Instagram. If they show their face and good stuff, the ad is probably fake. If they send you their address and they are at a crappy location, it's probably another fake profile. I'm like you, I prefer girls that have the GND and mall look.

    That's why I look at this Guide every day to find out who is legit or fake.

    I've only seen and been with one girl who was TGTBT but that was 2.5 years ago.

    Quote Originally Posted by FourthTwin  [View Original Post]
    Is it just me that all of the profiles on Listcrawler and a number of them on Skipthegames all seem to be fake now-a-days? If you are overly made up and you look like you're in a designer bedroom or some exotic location chances are I'm not going to waste my time reaching out to you. I've been on STG for years and have linked up with a number of people. I prefer my conquests to look normal. There use to be a time when you could link up with a girl who had an ad up that looked like the girl down the street or someone you went to school with. Now everyone has to look like an Instagram model. What happened to those girls? The better these girls look the more they feel they can charge.

  8. #2960

    Is it just me?

    Is it just me that all of the profiles on Listcrawler and a number of them on Skipthegames all seem to be fake now-a-days? If you are overly made up and you look like you're in a designer bedroom or some exotic location chances are I'm not going to waste my time reaching out to you. I've been on STG for years and have linked up with a number of people. I prefer my conquests to look normal. There use to be a time when you could link up with a girl who had an ad up that looked like the girl down the street or someone you went to school with. Now everyone has to look like an Instagram model. What happened to those girls? The better these girls look the more they feel they can charge.

  9. #2959
    Quote Originally Posted by GutterMind4  [View Original Post]
    Guys, I was informed today that someone is reaching out to providers and / or bookers claiming to be me, Guttermind4, on this site. Just verify if anybody tries to hit you up for info. I know it's hard to do when you can clearly see their handle on here but, I'll reach out through PM first, if at all.
    Should I post his phone number administrator?

    Only thing is gutter and I don't have the username / handle.

    Question? Do you think this is macho Manny?

  10. #2958

    Fyi

    Guys, I was informed today that someone is reaching out to providers and / or bookers claiming to be me, Guttermind4, on this site. Just verify if anybody tries to hit you up for info. I know it's hard to do when you can clearly see their handle on here but, I'll reach out through PM first, if at all.

  11. #2957

    Blackbeard's

    Has anyone local made a pilgrimage to Blackbeard's in the DR? There's a direct from CLT to POP. PM's are fine.

  12. #2956
    Quote Originally Posted by Murican314  [View Original Post]
    I saw that a provider was arrested for murder (in Lincolnton) recently. Glad I didn't go through with my visit.

    https://www.wcnc.com/amp/article/new...a-aa6825e05bd9

    But I came across this as well and she looks a lot like a provider, who I have seen, and stopped posting in January (went by Amber). Hope my eyes are off here!

    https://mecklenburgnc.mugshots.zone/...ot-02-10-2023/
    The second one I would have avoided for being a redhead. I have a family full of redheaded women, and know better.

  13. #2955
    I saw that a provider was arrested for murder (in Lincolnton) recently. Glad I didn't go through with my visit.

    https://www.wcnc.com/amp/article/new...a-aa6825e05bd9

    But I came across this as well and she looks a lot like a provider, who I have seen, and stopped posting in January (went by Amber). Hope my eyes are off here!

    https://mecklenburgnc.mugshots.zone/...ot-02-10-2023/

  14. #2954
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiett  [View Original Post]
    University area / University Hilton
    There are many post on LC for the University area / University place area. Are any real?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiett  [View Original Post]
    No, tried that today. Sent me first room not very good looking, second room to heavy. Not my taste therefore I left. I would not recommend!
    Please don't post the name of the hotels where these girls may be staying. Anyone can read here & it's not good for them, you, or any of us to draw attention. Thank you.

  15. #2953

    University Hilton

    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleAge57  [View Original Post]
    If you are talking about the Latina ads, you will not see the girl in the pics. Some of them will still be fine looking.
    No, tried that today. Sent me first room not very good looking, second room to heavy. Not my taste therefore I left. I would not recommend!

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