Strip Club Reports

[JeffInnAtlanta]

Six figures or not, you don't understand how local government works. Yes, customers want a Follies, but cities and their elected officials do not. And when that happens, sooner or later they'll close (look at the history of 42nd street in NY, the Combat Zone in Boston, etc. - when gov wants adult businesses to go, they go). The law is pretty clear. While strip clubs in general usually pass muster, cities can and have restricted hours, alcohol use, lap dances, etc. All the things that make a Follies Follies. We've lived through the high point of adult business in this country; it'll slowly but surely shrink to a few isolated locations.

Mongers put money in G-strings, pay for sex and massages, and spend their time looking for the cheapest pussy.

Soccer Moms put money in the pockets of politicians and spend their time looking for causes. Like shutting down strip clubs, brothels, massage parlors, getting hookers off the streets.

Who do you think is getting the best return for their dollar?

With the way the laws, ordinances and regulations are in Atlanta are you surprised these places are closing? Is there any doubt as to why the top talent (mostly) avoids Atlanta?

[AllTheTime]

Nah you're just flat out wrong.

EVERYBODY wants Follies. Always did and always will. It will rise from the ashes, probably by early 2021 is my guess.

Just don't be a poor loser with no money walking into that place.

A six figure guy like me never had problems getting all the titties and pussy I could handle in Follies because I had that mean green burning a hole in my pocket.

Six figures or not, you don't understand how local government works. Yes, customers want a Follies, but cities and their elected officials do not. And when that happens, sooner or later they'll close (look at the history of 42nd street in NY, the Combat Zone in Boston, etc. - when gov wants adult businesses to go, they go). The law is pretty clear. While strip clubs in general usually pass muster, cities can and have restricted hours, alcohol use, lap dances, etc. All the things that make a Follies Follies. We've lived through the high point of adult business in this country; it'll slowly but surely shrink to a few isolated locations.

[The Wiseacre]

There is high demand for the services Follies offered. You can shut down Flashers, you can shut down Follies, etc. But that's not going to change demand at all.

Oh sure, the Karens of the world might imagine Boise, where "strip clubs" involve women stripping down to two piece bathing suits. But it didn't takeout in Boise, and I'm sure there are underground clubs where, god and Joseph Smith forbid, guys hire talent to perform and it's nearly impossible to crack down on.

Atlanta has probably shed its title of "most strip clubs per capita in a major city" but the down and dirty stuff isn't going away. It's just shifting to a more secure location.

[TMeister]

There are nude strip clubs in Atlanta where you can buy a dime bag of weed and roll up while getting a contact dance. There aren't any that allow dealers to setup while blatantly violating occupancy rules, shootings happening in the damn club, bouncers breaking people's legs and assaulting dancers and customers while the talent gets drugged and raped regularly. Look it all up, that place was a cesspool, and no city wants it anywhere close to them. TT, Wax, Blaze, Goldrush and diamonds are all rocking. I'm all for freedom, but Follies had truly become a dangerous place for customers and their very own staff.

Nah you're just flat out wrong.

EVERYBODY wants Follies. Always did and always will. It will rise from the ashes, probably by early 2021 is my guess.

Just don't be a poor loser with no money walking into that place.

A six figure guy like me never had problems getting all the titties and pussy I could handle in Follies because I had that mean green burning a hole in my pocket.

[DixieNormous11]

Follies was by far the best strip club that I've ever gone to and I've been to the "best of the best" all over the US. The Follies Vets went during the day. Night shift was completely different, but never once did I feel unsafe there. LOL at any of those other clubs being anywhere close to Follies's level. If you think that you probably weren't doing something right.

[Joesouncool]

There are nude strip clubs in Atlanta where you can buy a dime bag of weed and roll up while getting a contact dance. There aren't any that allow dealers to setup while blatantly violating occupancy rules, shootings happening in the damn club, bouncers breaking people's legs and assaulting dancers and customers while the talent gets drugged and raped regularly. Look it all up, that place was a cesspool, and no city wants it anywhere close to them. TT, Wax, Blaze, Goldrush and diamonds are all rocking. I'm all for freedom, but Follies had truly become a dangerous place for customers and their very own staff.

The problem happens when you go too far over the line. For the last several years, from reading this forum, it was clear that follies was way way way over the line. The most over the line club I've ever been to was the Platinum Plus in Memphis. I saw live sex on stage. There was lots of sex happening in the VIP room, lots and lots right out in the open VIP. In reading, that was just a normal night at the purple church. I've had a bunch of dancers, but I've never seen that much itc action just out in the open. Memphis closed them down eventually. Follies eventually got closed down, it just was too far over the line. This happens all the time. Guys want more, so they pay up. Girls get more. Bouncers, waitresses, and managers get more tips. This isn't an original story. When it's too far out in the open and talked about too much, you get trouble. A full club at 2:30 pm on a Monday, and people talking about it in internet chat rooms like this, and people raise their eyebrows. I've had sex and offers of sex from a bunch of different dancers, bartender chicks, waitresses, shooter girls, and just about every chick in a strip club possible short of the house mom in various cities. Keep it on the downlow, and it can go on forever. It gets talked about too much and the government comes a knocking. There are plenty of Karens out there that believe that they can force their view of morality on others and don't give a shit about your opinion. And politicians will always side with them in public, and remember votes are public. It is what it is folks. Another club will open up somewhere. Just wait until it does.

P.S. Hopefully the Atlanta area doesn't become like Nashville.

[Plman Smith]

Pardon the geeky title: just came to mind.

Fact: Young, uneducated, beautiful women are never going to stop selling their bodies to men who can afford them. That's just a cornerstone of physical reality, like F=ma or E=mc2.

Someone (maybe one of us!) will find a way to create a strip club experience for paying clients. It might work as a gig economy thing.

Imagine taking the portability of location intrinsic to AirBnB and combining it with service gig outfit like TaskRabbit, only in this case it matches a venue, strippers, and clients to an interval of time.

Like your driving your 812 GTS down I-75, and you get a text notification: a space over near Lenox (house, warehouse, office) is today's spot. You have a couple hours to kill before your VC meeting at Atlanta Tech Village, and it's in the neighborhood, so you pull up, park, show your app to the door guy (who scans it), and in you go. Full bar, poles, nude spinners. You order a drink, have some dances, empty your balls into a 19 year old vagina, and off you go, refreshed for your meeting.

Or whatever.

App-driven, leveraging participating real estate parters, etc. It's more inevitable than merely likely.

No, grognards like me or Niteluvr won't like it, but young guys will feel right at home. That's my future prediction!

O.

I used to travel to HotLanta, loved the SC scene there. Tattletales, Cheeta (the original). Showing my age, LOL.

[Da Slickster]

Stopped by last night.

Haven't been to a club at night in forever. Pretty disappointed as I used to hit Follies during the afternoon. Girls pretty much talked amongst themselves or with regulars, guys pouring ones on dancers, no contact dances, way too much smoke, and way too small drinks.

We didn't stay long.

I miss Follies.

[NewDude]

You could buy weed & coke right by the men's bathroom, I'm guilty of buying a dime bag & rolling a fat one under the DJ booth, so I wasn't surprised about them being shut down. Normally I just use my weed pen when out in public as you can't tell the difference between it & a vape pen.

Is Clayton county in their future?

There are nude strip clubs in Atlanta where you can buy a dime bag of weed and roll up while getting a contact dance. There aren't any that allow dealers to setup while blatantly violating occupancy rules, shootings happening in the damn club, bouncers breaking people's legs and assaulting dancers and customers while the talent gets drugged and raped regularly. Look it all up, that place was a cesspool, and no city wants it anywhere close to them. TT, Wax, Blaze, Goldrush and diamonds are all rocking. I'm all for freedom, but Follies had truly become a dangerous place for customers and their very own staff.

[Ozymandias]

Pardon the geeky title: just came to mind.

Fact: Young, uneducated, beautiful women are never going to stop selling their bodies to men who can afford them. That's just a cornerstone of physical reality, like F=ma or E=mc2.

Someone (maybe one of us!) will find a way to create a strip club experience for paying clients. It might work as a gig economy thing.

Imagine taking the portability of location intrinsic to AirBnB and combining it with service gig outfit like TaskRabbit, only in this case it matches a venue, strippers, and clients to an interval of time.

Like your driving your 812 GTS down I-75, and you get a text notification: a space over near Lenox (house, warehouse, office) is today's spot. You have a couple hours to kill before your VC meeting at Atlanta Tech Village, and it's in the neighborhood, so you pull up, park, show your app to the door guy (who scans it), and in you go. Full bar, poles, nude spinners. You order a drink, have some dances, empty your balls into a 19 year old vagina, and off you go, refreshed for your meeting.

Or whatever.

App-driven, leveraging participating real estate parters, etc. It's more inevitable than merely likely.

No, grognards like me or Niteluvr won't like it, but young guys will feel right at home. That's my future prediction!

O.

[SeekingHead]

I don't think the owners care to be honest. They let their managers and club staff run that club into the ground. Remember when we were all complaining about the dealers and riff raff in the club that the bouncers and management let roam at will and enforced the BS rules only on their PAYING customers. The drug dealing, constant cop calling, and underhanded BS there is what ruined the club. This is what happens when you let chuckle heads run a multi million dollar business. The cow has been milked dry, and the owners are probably on an island or yacht somewhere.

You could buy weed & coke right by the men's bathroom, I'm guilty of buying a dime bag & rolling a fat one under the DJ booth, so I wasn't surprised about them being shut down. Normally I just use my weed pen when out in public as you can't tell the difference between it & a vape pen.

Is Clayton county in their future?

[NewDude]

I don't think the owners care to be honest. They let their managers and club staff run that club into the ground. Remember when we were all complaining about the dealers and riff raff in the club that the bouncers and management let roam at will and enforced the BS rules only on their PAYING customers. The drug dealing, constant cop calling, and underhanded BS there is what ruined the club. This is what happens when you let chuckle heads run a multi million dollar business. The cow has been milked dry, and the owners are probably on an island or yacht somewhere.

[TooHotForYou]

No cities like this kind of business, if for no other reason than much of the money is under the table, so the city loses out on tax benefits. And forget constitutional challenges. That's now dead (constitution is what Supreme Court says it is). Strip clubs per se won't be banned, but expect non stop efforts. Particularly, but not exclusively, down here - (often using liquor licenses as the wedge) to attack lap dances and even nudity. Glad I got to have some fun, post divorce, back in the day!

Or did everybody get a lot of shit on their hands now that need extra money to get from somewhere because they can't cover it, went to businesses like strip clubs to ask for a loan, and they didn't fork over the money? Just something to think about. It's not about losing tax benefits with these places, it's about not being forked over a loan when the city is in trouble with something huge. I could see that, and the club should not be liable for anything on one hand. This is more of a fuck you to the owners of Follies for not helping the city out with a loan they needed than more of a hey we have to shut you guys down we are sorry kind of thing. On the other hand, as much as I hate to say this too, I think the owners of Follies should've complied. Some times you have to help out who lets you run your business in a big way. It's called returning the favor.

[Wleakr]

But why not just move to a new city that's more friendly to this type of business? If they are as popular as it seems then I'm sure their loyal customers would follow them. Plus it's not like a little extra drive would mean anything seeing as everything in this state is spread out. Or are most cities here putting out this bs making shit not worth it?

Let's be somewhat logical about this.

If it's just a simple matter of relocating, they would've already done that and avoided all the court stuff.

Follies got too large and built an even larger notoriety for its crowds and activities within. Taking its name to another location in Atlanta area would just bring different eyes to its business, but the fight would continue. The only option they had to stay open under the Follies name was to acquiesce and adopt their business model (contact, alcohol, etc). So the Follies name is done. Best to try out a business under a new name.

But it would not BE Follies. The bubble of nudity, alcohol, late hours and lap dance contact on the main floor gets smaller every year. Few cities and states allow all at the same time. The few places in Atlanta proper that do ARE NOT supposed to. That's where we get into which clubs are strictly air dance and which are not or, to translate, which follow the rules and which do not.

[AllTheTime]

But why not just move to a new city that's more friendly to this type of business? If they are as popular as it seems then I'm sure their loyal customers would follow them. Plus it's not like a little extra drive would mean anything seeing as everything in this state is spread out. Or are most cities here putting out this bs making shit not worth it?

No cities like this kind of business, if for no other reason than much of the money is under the table, so the city loses out on tax benefits. And forget constitutional challenges. That's now dead (constitution is what Supreme Court says it is). Strip clubs per se won't be banned, but expect non stop efforts. Particularly, but not exclusively, down here - (often using liquor licenses as the wedge) to attack lap dances and even nudity. Glad I got to have some fun, post divorce, back in the day!