Massage Parlor Reports

[Dudeatl]

When is Yini normally busy? Every time I drive by during a weekday, I see maybe one or two cars in the lot.

Generally, around lunch (it could be 11 or as late as 2) when I have been there. Maybe I just pick busy days. I have seen 5 or more cars there not counting the one pulled up in back facing the store. You have parking options on either side as well.

This is a run-down on a legit place, so you might not be interested, but this is what I know. They have 7 girls in rotation and 1 or 2 are off on select days. It seems like the keep a few and rotate through a few pretty regularly. I always ask who is available, and look at the chart behind the counter. Things have probably changed, but when I was there two weeks ago following are the options. Don't go with Kimmie, she is old, terrible massage, and a tease. Linna is the best massage, young but good with skill and pressure points-no teasing, always feels professional. Lucy is similar, but not as good. Sophie is tall for a Chinese girl and service like Lucy and I think she looks pregnant. There are two more older ones, one looks mean (Nicole maybe, I was surprised it was chosen for an American handle) the other is Rosa (maybe she has relatives in the Philippians, what's withe the Chinese choosing an 'R' name). Rosa looks like a Chinese mom, gives a good massage and might tease. Nicole gives a good massage.

Kelly was good, she moved to another store in Atlanta somewhere-no extras very legit, and good massage. Let me know if you (the collective you) find her.

[Dudeatl]

I would wager that the majority of the Chinese Parlors are legit and not fronts. Some get enough traffic to keep their doors open, some actually make a profit; but many in fact do not make it and do close. Depending on overhead, which is pretty low considering your employees are paid based on productivity rather than a time sheet. It really doesn't take much to make these places profitable. Its much more likely the Korean Parlors are a front, but to be honest, most of them are simply brothels and are closed when the act of prostitution and its solicitation are caught.

Laundering money was the easiest of crimes to prove especially when considering that this was indeed a brothel. The report illustrates that LE was conducting surveillance and undercover operations; which translates to, they caught one or more of the providers in an act of prostitution."Money laundering is the process of concealing a source of money obtained by illicit means." In this case, the money was obtained via illicit means and through surveillance was discovered to be not reported or transparent. In Georgia, if you are in a business activity or working for a company doing illegal business you are automatically associated with that activity regardless of whether you actually committed a crime. Generally speaking, a conspiracy is an agreement by two or more persons to commit a criminal act or series of criminal acts, or to accomplish a legal act by unlawful means. In Georgia, you are guilty by association. That means that all employees and the owners at the time of the bust were pretty much guilty of prostitution and laundering money.

Also, any customer who was in that place at the time of the bust would probably be arrested as well.

Here is what I want to know, what LE got the job of "undercover operations"? According to the article it took 4 years to close this place down. That means whatever agents were in the proverbial "position" to be the undercover LE were doing it for 4 years. I WANT THAT JOB!

Cheers,

Di.

If you had no customers, you could log on your paper (which I see the Chinese places doing) x number of customers. Even if you were giving legit massages in the back, you could record a higher number of massages and deposit the money, pay the rent (and the percentage rent for retail places) and maybe the taxes and clean-up your money from something else. It would be really easy and convenient if you needed to do it.

[Niteluvr]

When I have been to Yini, it seems pretty busy but that doesn't mean they are financially sound. They are adding an additional room as well. I thought it was owned by someone named "Wendy", but that could just be an intermediate person. It is somehow associated with Swan.

There are others I have been in once, such as massage angel or massage dream, where there was one or two girls and no one else shadowed the door while I was there. I know they are open 12 or more hours a day, but seems it would be tough to make the rent on something like that.

When is Yini normally busy? Every time I drive by during a weekday, I see maybe one or two cars in the lot.

[Steak 404]

I agree with DiDi. These aren't "fronts" soley designed to launder money in the traditional sense. Are some the of the owners associated with other questionable businesses? Who knows.

But how do they stay open?

As DiDi points out the overhead (fixed) costs are relatively low. The result of running one of the slow ones is exactly what we see in many of the local joints. They don't close their doors because they are marginally profitable but the "talent" is poor. Hence all the 50 year old hags instead of comely 25 year olds. The hotties have other, better options and exercise them (in ATL or some other city). That leaves Buford Hwy shops with the aged ones.

[Osmosiss]

I would wager that the majority of the Chinese Parlors are legit and not fronts. Some get enough traffic to keep their doors open, some actually make a profit; but many in fact do not make it and do close. Depending on overhead, which is pretty low considering your employees are paid based on productivity rather than a time sheet. It really doesn't take much to make these places profitable. Its much more likely the Korean Parlors are a front, but to be honest, most of them are simply brothels and are closed when the act of prostitution and its solicitation are caught.

Laundering money was the easiest of crimes to prove especially when considering that this was indeed a brothel. The report illustrates that LE was conducting surveillance and undercover operations; which translates to, they caught one or more of the providers in an act of prostitution."Money laundering is the process of concealing a source of money obtained by illicit means." In this case, the money was obtained via illicit means and through surveillance was discovered to be not reported or transparent. In Georgia, if you are in a business activity or working for a company doing illegal business you are automatically associated with that activity regardless of whether you actually committed a crime. Generally speaking, a conspiracy is an agreement by two or more persons to commit a criminal act or series of criminal acts, or to accomplish a legal act by unlawful means. In Georgia, you are guilty by association. That means that all employees and the owners at the time of the bust were pretty much guilty of prostitution and laundering money.

Also, any customer who was in that place at the time of the bust would probably be arrested as well.

Here is what I want to know, what LE got the job of "undercover operations"? According to the article it took 4 years to close this place down. That means whatever agents were in the proverbial "position" to be the undercover LE were doing it for 4 years. I WANT THAT JOB!

Cheers,

Di.

When I have been to Yini, it seems pretty busy but that doesn't mean they are financially sound. They are adding an additional room as well. I thought it was owned by someone named "Wendy", but that could just be an intermediate person. It is somehow associated with Swan.

There are others I have been in once, such as massage angel or massage dream, where there was one or two girls and no one else shadowed the door while I was there. I know they are open 12 or more hours a day, but seems it would be tough to make the rent on something like that.

[Dudeatl]

Most of the Chinese parlors get enough customers so I assume they are profitable, but a few such as Yini don't seem to be doing very well; however, I think Yini is owned by a guy who has one or two more parlors, so Yini's losses are offset. As for money laundering, could be possible that a parlor is used as a front for gambling at another location, but unless someone is tailing the owner 24/7, they're not likely to find anything.

When I have been to Yini, it seems pretty busy but that doesn't mean they are financially sound. They are adding an additional room as well. I thought it was owned by someone named "Wendy", but that could just be an intermediate person. It is somehow associated with Swan.

There are others I have been in once, such as massage angel or massage dream, where there was one or two girls and no one else shadowed the door while I was there. I know they are open 12 or more hours a day, but seems it would be tough to make the rent on something like that.

[Niteluvr]

Guys, I will be traveling though Atlanta on Monday. I am looking for a good. Massage location in ALT. I done usually do escorts but I really enjoy Non. Asian parlors. Can someone tell me where on is located.

About your only options is the pricey girls with individual ads that work out of the upscale apartment in Buckhead. A sample: http://atlanta.backpage.com/BodyRubs...wn-24/16086862

[Niteluvr]

The money laundering aspect of massage parlor and other assumed illegal operations has to do with taking the profits of an illegal activity and converting it to appear as the product of a legal activity. In this case, the prosecutors assume that the workers were performing illegal acts within the premises, but declaring that the profits were from legit massages.

This brings up another related thought. With the proliferation of small legit massage spas that seem to be appearing on every street corner, one has to wonder if these are fronts for some other enterprises that need to convert their proceeds into seemingly legit business profits. Just how many legit massage providers are needed? Are they really that profitable to remain in business? Or, are they managing to maintain the appearance of enough customer traffic to have a marginal business, and behind the scenes are funneling extra money from outside sources into their deposits to launder it. In the secretive Korean / Chinese / Asian community, it is tough to tell. From my perspective, it's hard to believe that they are all profitable enough to remain in business as long as they do.

Most of the Chinese parlors get enough customers so I assume they are profitable, but a few such as Yini don't seem to be doing very well; however, I think Yini is owned by a guy who has one or two more parlors, so Yini's losses are offset. As for money laundering, could be possible that a parlor is used as a front for gambling at another location, but unless someone is tailing the owner 24/7, they're not likely to find anything.

[Bigcockyman]

Guys, I will be traveling though Atlanta on Monday. I am looking for a good. Massage location in ALT. I done usually do escorts but I really enjoy Non. Asian parlors. Can someone tell me where on is located.

[Zipper34]

The money laundering aspect of massage parlor and other assumed illegal operations has to do with taking the profits of an illegal activity and converting it to appear as the product of a legal activity. In this case, the prosecutors assume that the workers were performing illegal acts within the premises, but declaring that the profits were from legit massages.

This brings up another related thought. With the proliferation of small legit massage spas that seem to be appearing on every street corner, one has to wonder if these are fronts for some other enterprises that need to convert their proceeds into seemingly legit business profits. Just how many legit massage providers are needed? Are they really that profitable to remain in business? Or, are they managing to maintain the appearance of enough customer traffic to have a marginal business, and behind the scenes are funneling extra money from outside sources into their deposits to launder it. In the secretive Korean / Chinese / Asian community, it is tough to tell. From my perspective, it's hard to believe that they are all profitable enough to remain in business as long as they do.

You are right on the money here, figuratively and literally.

[Infatuated]

The money laundering aspect of massage parlor and other assumed illegal operations has to do with taking the profits of an illegal activity and converting it to appear as the product of a legal activity. In this case, the prosecutors assume that the workers were performing illegal acts within the premises, but declaring that the profits were from legit massages.

This brings up another related thought. With the proliferation of small legit massage spas that seem to be appearing on every street corner, one has to wonder if these are fronts for some other enterprises that need to convert their proceeds into seemingly legit business profits. Just how many legit massage providers are needed? Are they really that profitable to remain in business? Or, are they managing to maintain the appearance of enough customer traffic to have a marginal business, and behind the scenes are funneling extra money from outside sources into their deposits to launder it. In the secretive Korean / Chinese / Asian community, it is tough to tell. From my perspective, it's hard to believe that they are all profitable enough to remain in business as long as they do.

[Niteluvr]

I read the macon article, and it said none of the working girls were charged. It sounds like the 'owner' was an absentee living in Atlanta and the 72 year old was the person running the show at the storefront. I'm not sure about the third person, but it included interstate charges and money laundering, so I suspect it is part of that. With all of the fed agencies involved, it sounds like the 'massage' part of the business was the least interesting. As you might expect, they didn't find any human trafficking either.

The chances of LE finding human trafficking evidence is slim to none because of the secrective Korean society. Unless you're Korean and can break into that, you'll never get anywhere. Same goes with Chinese, Vietnamese, etc.

[Dudeatl]

The scary part is wondering whether the 72-year-old was a working girl and offering extras.

I read the macon article, and it said none of the working girls were charged. It sounds like the 'owner' was an absentee living in Atlanta and the 72 year old was the person running the show at the storefront. I'm not sure about the third person, but it included interstate charges and money laundering, so I suspect it is part of that. With all of the fed agencies involved, it sounds like the 'massage' part of the business was the least interesting. As you might expect, they didn't find any human trafficking either.

[NuGuy36]

The scary part is wondering whether the 72-year-old was a working girl and offering extras.

Seems like we have only 60+ yr old masseuses populating our local AMP's. If a lot more guys stopped patronizing these places things would change fast. The folks in Texas have it so good when it comes to the quality of masseuses at their area AMP's.

[Niteluvr]

Http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/21...stitution-case

The scary part is wondering whether the 72-year-old was a working girl and offering extras.