Mobius is a OG here. Didn't even notice Möbius has over 4 K posts. Definitely earns the Boto props! No one can replace Kapalua but OGs like Möbius, Redneck1, Hinode, Makana, Strippedfashion, and theirs so many more. Mahaloz to all.
Thanks Möbius and I totally agree, which is why we chose to take our money elsewhere. I had no issue with the bouncer, he was polite and very professional, I just didn't agree with his decision. We don't mind lady rotations and in fact encourage it, provides variety for the customers. But a customer shouldn't be asked to move if we are adequately tipping and drinking, just not to that particular "dancer" if you want to call them that. Many just lay around playing on their phones until money appears. I guess I have a different philosophy about the business. If you dance and show off your assets, whatever they may be, customers will be more inclined to sit down and tip. I refuse to tip a lady who is lying there playing on her phone just to show interest. In my opinion, the ladies in Hawaiian men's clubs are lazy. If I was an owner and I saw someone laying down, playing on their phone, they would be politely asked to leave and find employment elsewhere. This type of business is or should be customer orientated and should ok to satisfy the customers needs, not employee focused. If the customer receives good service they will be more inclined to spend money, that is how it works, or should work. Just one reason I believe this industry is on the decline in Hawaii. Cater to the customer and you will be successful.
Ok, so I have to tell you what happened last night. Wife and I were at Fem Nu, having a few drinks, met a nice chill couple so we were chatting with them and shelling out some pretty series ones on a fine little Russian thing that I would have loved to take home for a light between meals snack. It was about 11:30, not too late but the place started to fill up. We have been in these same seats for quite some time, as said we have been tipping quite well. So this local chick jumps on stage in front of my wife and I and stared dancing, as we were paying attention to another that was in front of the other couple but she had been moving between couples getting paid. We really didn't pay this girl any mind because she was not cute at all.
This chick has the balls to ask my wife and I to move because she wanted to make room for her customers as we weren't tipping her. So asked her if she was serious asking a paying customer to get up and move because we weren't tipping this wacked ass body chick. We went back and forth for a couple of exchanges and she immediately called the bouncer. He came over, obviously I got no word in inch wise and the bouncer asked us to move. I looked at this 400 lbs guy and asked him if this was a customer-based establishment? He looked at me like I had three eyes so obviously not the brightest people I'm dealing with. I told him that I'm a paying customer, buying drinks, tipping ladies and you are asking me to move because your wacked out dancer who is fat and not even pretty needs customers? Does that seem logical? If your paycheck comes from paying customers, whether from her or another dancer, it shouldn't matter if I tip her or someone else, you get paid. I told him that's the point behind rotations, the girls move to the customer not the other way around, unless a customer fancies a particular lady, then they move with the girl.
He didn't see it my way and told us if we didn't move we would be asked to leave. I popped up, shouted out fuck this place, looked at the girl who was being smug and told her she was wacked, had a fucked up body and better stay in Hawaii because this is only place that will let you dance. I can't even believe they keep you on staff. Then I said the BAD statement, you're probably here for the retards or Japanese tourist who are either blind or too dumb to know she is wacked. The bouncer put his hand on my shoulder and asked me to leave. Obviously I complied, but as I was leaving I was still talking trash to the dancer, if you want to call her that.
Being former military, 23 years, I've been to a couple dance places in my day. This is the only place I've seen who tells the customers to do anything but drink and tip if necessary. The bar should give two shits who I'm tipping, as long as we pay our cover, which went up to $10 per person and buy drinks at a reasonable pace. If the bar's priority is to get their dancers paid and not the bar, then they should not be in business for very long. Maybe that's what I need to do, start up a high class club, keep it clean, offer only quality ladies and kill the business for the other places. If you pay dancers well, and create an environment where they can make serious money, they will stay, and I'll have the best quality ladies in Hawaii because they want to leave these messed up clubs.
44 years old and my first time being asked to leave an established, fuckers broke my streak.
So the Russian girl you and your wife were enjoying "rotated" to another customer? This other girl then rotated to you? I take it several rotations would have to happen before your girl got back to you? Yes that can be awkward. I suppose that's their way of helping out low-demand strippers, and allows others to enjoy high-demand strippers.
I stopped going to FM years ago but do remember getting away when I wasn't interested in the next girl.
Places that have only one girl on stage at a time (except during peak times) are easier. The girl stays as long as you have money, and service continually increases.
It sounds like at least the bouncer was nice about it though, and you were able to leave without incident (eg. you were not followed outside by rowdy customers, or cronies of the girl or bar owner unbeknownst to you, as a result of your outburst).
Bouncers WILL obey their boss and do as they have been instructed, and will not be very interested in customer opinion.
Like Ducky 007 says, we choose our bars. "Take the good with the bad", I reckon.
Last edited by H Mobius; 06-05-16 at 15:10.
Reason: T & A memories caused repeated brain farts.
Seriously, this is absolutely your last warning. You can either learn to take this to the fight thread or the next time I'm banning your account and you can start all over as a noob.
Seriously, not saying another word about it to you, you post it, I ban the name.
The girls tip out the bouncers! No one care what you are former at! When the bounce asks you just do it. No questions asked. Somehow I think it's guys like you that make us all look bad. If you don't like it go to another club, there's plenty.
Just my opinion, as a former Doorman / Bouncer (over 10 years) in Hawaii, myself and most guys I knew working just wanted to get paid and go home safe at the end of the night. Less hassles, less headaches. We do not want to work hard while you guys get to have fun but that was the gig. Granted there have been and will always be a few assholes working. I get it. The get off on the power trip and the girls and whatevers. Happends to the best.
The bar strip bar biz in Hawaii is on the decline, no one can and will dispute that, not too many to go to left. Just have fun, do what you got to do to live life.
Isn't she the one with a high pitched voice from Virginia? She likes the cure and punk bands? I haven't seen her there in 3 weeks or so and was wondering where she went. She is a super sweetheart!!
Don't remember if she had a high pitched voice last time I went was two years ago but I remembered she looked like a thicker Olivia munn.
Ok, so I have to tell you what happened last night. Wife and I were at Fem Nu, having a few drinks, met a nice chill couple so we were chatting with them and shelling out some pretty series ones on a fine little Russian thing that I would have loved to take home for a light between meals snack. It was about 11:30, not too late but the place started to fill up. We have been in these same seats for quite some time, as said we have been tipping quite well. So this local chick jumps on stage in front of my wife and I and stared dancing, as we were paying attention to another that was in front of the other couple but she had been moving between couples getting paid. We really didn't pay this girl any mind because she was not cute at all.
This chick has the balls to ask my wife and I to move because she wanted to make room for her customers as we weren't tipping her. So asked her if she was serious asking a paying customer to get up and move because we weren't tipping this wacked ass body chick. We went back and forth for a couple of exchanges and she immediately called the bouncer. He came over, obviously I got no word in inch wise and the bouncer asked us to move. I looked at this 400 lbs guy and asked him if this was a customer-based establishment? He looked at me like I had three eyes so obviously not the brightest people I'm dealing with. I told him that I'm a paying customer, buying drinks, tipping ladies and you are asking me to move because your wacked out dancer who is fat and not even pretty needs customers? Does that seem logical? If your paycheck comes from paying customers, whether from her or another dancer, it shouldn't matter if I tip her or someone else, you get paid. I told him that's the point behind rotations, the girls move to the customer not the other way around, unless a customer fancies a particular lady, then they move with the girl.
He didn't see it my way and told us if we didn't move we would be asked to leave. I popped up, shouted out fuck this place, looked at the girl who was being smug and told her she was wacked, had a fucked up body and better stay in Hawaii because this is only place that will let you dance. I can't even believe they keep you on staff. Then I said the BAD statement, you're probably here for the retards or Japanese tourist who are either blind or too dumb to know she is wacked. The bouncer put his hand on my shoulder and asked me to leave. Obviously I complied, but as I was leaving I was still talking trash to the dancer, if you want to call her that.
Being former military, 23 years, I've been to a couple dance places in my day. This is the only place I've seen who tells the customers to do anything but drink and tip if necessary. The bar should give two shits who I'm tipping, as long as we pay our cover, which went up to $10 per person and buy drinks at a reasonable pace. If the bar's priority is to get their dancers paid and not the bar, then they should not be in business for very long. Maybe that's what I need to do, start up a high class club, keep it clean, offer only quality ladies and kill the business for the other places. If you pay dancers well, and create an environment where they can make serious money, they will stay, and I'll have the best quality ladies in Hawaii because they want to leave these messed up clubs.
44 years old and my first time being asked to leave an established, fuckers broke my streak.
The girls tip out the bouncers! No one care what you are former at! When the bounce asks you just do it. No questions asked. Somehow I think it's guys like you that make us all look bad. If you don't like it go to another club, there's plenty.
Anyone know if robin is still around at rockza? Last time I saw her was two years ago wondering if she still dancing.
Isn't she the one with a high pitched voice from Virginia? She likes the cure and punk bands? I haven't seen her there in 3 weeks or so and was wondering where she went. She is a super sweetheart!!
For those the may not know, this is right next door to a church. Just a PSA.
Praise the Lord! Maybe some of the male church members can lead the dancers to Jesus and a righteous life (lol).
Speaking of churches, a few weeks ago in Tennessee, two church ministers were arrested in a police sting operation after they responded to "online advertisements specifically offering sex with an XXXXXXXX girl". How stupid. One was a married minister from "Grace Baptist Church" and the other was from "Lifehouse Church".
For those the may not know, this is right next door to a church. Just a PSA.
All the more reason why the members of that church need to "save" those heathen savages living in "sin"! Right across their "holy" house of "purity"!
Who knows, maybe their minister is a closet pedophile who goes over for some action himself on the pretext of "saving" some pussy that got lost and needed special guidance from his "holiness" to be led back to the "promised land" located between her legs of course?