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  1. #35310
    Quote Originally Posted by Ajarn  [View Original Post]
    Do young performers on the mainland include bbfscip regularly in their act?
    No, not even at the $500 and $600 level.

  2. #35309

    Economics

    $36 dollar for gourmet burger in New York, $12 bucks here. No way we going pay New York prices for shit because we no make the big bucks like those in New York. If girls think they going get $600 to fuck in Hawaii they fucking dreaming. Price is what market will bare, LOL.

    Girls smarter enough to know different locations will get different rates. Hawaii is a gold mine of volume fucking like at Empire--fucking from 8 am all rooms busy all girls fucking running from one fucking dick to another, LOL volume, baby. 150 a cum shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraForever  [View Original Post]
    If the price rate is just like NY, bunch of 20 something model-level girls (Asian, white, black all) will eager to come here.

    (I don't complain Hawaii price at call cause I know my success rate for one night stand would be low when young tall haole boy and fashionable Japanese tourist is competing and date costs more than 200,250 till sex).

    When many of old AMP girls don't repeat coming saying Hawaii scene is too cheap and too difficult to manage, who will come?

    There was one big privilege here before. No harsh raid as many of mainland government does. Putting all people into detention center first and indict first. Or sending them into ice detention center first. Later girls will find their mug shot with prostitute record when they google their name and area.

  3. #35308
    Senior Member


    Posts: 945

    Expectations

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerBoy  [View Original Post]
    If you're someone complaining about that, you know that the reason why so few young hot chicks are working in these AMPs is because they're in cities like LA, NYC and everywhere inbetween, where they can make more for doing less. Trust me, they are not doing BBFSCIP for $200.
    Somehow the subject of the dearth of young providers in 808 came up while I was with one of the younger AMP all-stars. She said they're plenty of young providers on the mainland, but they're reluctant to come here because they've heard of Hawaii's reputation. And that is the guys here expect (demand) too much, like Greek trips, BBFS, et. There was no mention of money.

    I have no experience on the mainland but my guess is that anyone coming here knows what market price to expect, that the cost of living is high and wages are low.

    Do young performers on the mainland include bbfscip regularly in their act?

  4. #35307

    Not exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by Blake123  [View Original Post]
    Anything beyond 12 nautical miles is outside of U.S. jurisdiction.
    Any boat with a USA Country of origin is subject to US law no matter how far you go. 12 miles or 1200 miles off coast you get caught arranging large scale prostition and you are going to US jail.

    Now if you have a boat registered in the Netherlands and you are 12 miles off coast of hawaii you can fill that boat with as many hookers, johns, drugs and $ as you want.

    Many years ago I had a contact in Japan working in buy me drinky bar and floated the idea of a luxury bang boat fishing tour here. Went as far as to hire a lawyer to draw up agreement with yacht owner in Mexico. Owner backed out last minute. Would have been a fun business to try and start.

    If any of you know a foreign yacht owner with at least 6 cabins I would be interested in giving it another go. Open to partnership.

  5. #35306

    Experience are

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerBoy  [View Original Post]
    I guess if I put some effort into my game, I could have a fairly good success rate with tourist chicks.

    But that being said, I've always looked at paying for it as something like the Konami code in video games. Unlocks all kinds of pussy for the minimum amount of effort. And yeah, I'm paying for it, but if you're a guy you're always paying for it.

    The one benefit of paying for it, over working for it, is that you can get exactly what you want.
    I learned the hard way but now.

    If it flies, floats or f. , rent it.

  6. #35305
    I guess if I put some effort into my game, I could have a fairly good success rate with tourist chicks.

    But that being said, I've always looked at paying for it as something like the Konami code in video games. Unlocks all kinds of pussy for the minimum amount of effort. And yeah, I'm paying for it, but if you're a guy you're always paying for it.

    The one benefit of paying for it, over working for it, is that you can get exactly what you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by ToniMulato  [View Original Post]
    (*I don't complain Hawaii price at call cause I know my success rate for one night stand would be low when young tall haole boy and fashionable Japanese tourist is competing and date costs more than 200,250 till sex). *.

    Such a Valid point.

  7. #35304

    Agree.

    (*I don't complain Hawaii price at call cause I know my success rate for one night stand would be low when young tall haole boy and fashionable Japanese tourist is competing and date costs more than 200,250 till sex). *.

    Such a Valid point.

  8. #35303

    Still get, always had, always will

    Still get pussy for two bucks, been for decades, and will continue. Easy two bucks, grand a day for ladies. Get plenty bros still fucking pros today, girls busy.

  9. #35302

    True

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerBoy  [View Original Post]
    Nature abhors a vacuum.

    Women will come in to fill that void because there's money to be made. Maybe they're been laid off and need the money. Maybe they're already working girls, and they figure basing themselves here is as good a place as anywhere. Maybe they're college grads and literally facing the worst job market ever.

    But I think the days of $Tip + HF are coming to an end, if they're not dead. And seriously, this was long overdue. $200 buys you a smile and kind word anywhere else in the country, and yeah, I know, people are going to go on about how much more expensive everything else is here, but did you really those rates are sustainable?

    On one hand, the guys admonish anyone who pays more than $200, even to indies. OTOH, they complain about the same women working in the AMPs, and why aren't there more younger women here and so on.

    If you're someone complaining about that, you know that the reason why so few young hot chicks are working in these AMPs is because they're in cities like LA, NYC and everywhere in between, where they can make more for doing less. Trust me, they are not doing BBFSCIP for $200.
    If the price rate is just like NY, bunch of 20 something model-level girls (Asian, white, black all) will eager to come here.

    (I don't complain Hawaii price at call cause I know my success rate for one night stand would be low when young tall haole boy and fashionable Japanese tourist is competing and date costs more than 200,250 till sex).

    When many of old AMP girls don't repeat coming saying Hawaii scene is too cheap and too difficult to manage, who will come?

    There was one big privilege here before. No harsh raid as many of mainland government does. Putting all people into detention center first and indict first. Or sending them into ice detention center first. Later girls will find their mug shot with prostitute record when they google their name and area.

  10. #35301
    Enough with the Nostradamus shit, keep it to reports ffs.

  11. #35300
    Nature abhors a vacuum.

    Women will come in to fill that void because there's money to be made. Maybe they're been laid off and need the money. Maybe they're already working girls, and they figure basing themselves here is as good a place as anywhere. Maybe they're college grads and literally facing the worst job market ever.

    But I think the days of $Tip + HF are coming to an end, if they're not dead. And seriously, this was long overdue. $200 buys you a smile and kind word anywhere else in the country, and yeah, I know, people are going to go on about how much more expensive everything else is here, but did you really those rates are sustainable?

    On one hand, the guys admonish anyone who pays more than $200, even to indies. OTOH, they complain about the same women working in the AMPs, and why aren't there more younger women here and so on.

    If you're someone complaining about that, you know that the reason why so few young hot chicks are working in these AMPs is because they're in cities like LA, NYC and everywhere inbetween, where they can make more for doing less. Trust me, they are not doing BBFSCIP for $200.

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaraForever  [View Original Post]
    Thailand government announced their economy that hugely rely on tourism will not be the same in two years. It will take at least two years ONLY IF tourists can go back to pre-virus life with extra money for tourism. Hawaii may be on the same boat.

    No money no honey.

    And a few who plan to come to hawaii decided they will reject anyone (though he is so influential in this biz) that ask kiss, bb service and table shower. And some will change their way into more mainland style. Less tip but shorter time-more protective way.

    And no mamasan. All will be like chichis way, american style.

    Some matured superstars will retire.

    There will be a few in their 30's and early 40's (relatively safe age for coronavirus) to come back soon. But they may be quite picky. Will choose younger guys that prefer lower tip instead of short boom boom and safe play.

  12. #35299

    Amp

    AMPs outside cc will keep business not for profit but for rental contract.

    So owners will not ask force girls (if any come back) to do this not do that.

    Most AMPs will voluntarily close soon. Too much risk and with legal license, they must take all risk of health issue whenever virus spike again, which I bet 2nd 3rd wave will come.

    Norvana, rose, oska, VIP all monthly rental is more than 13 k. No way to earn that with virus outbreak. Bluestar and happiness maybe 7-8 k a month. If Korean baby boomer pros not come back, not easy to make it.

    For years our choice will be cc (half half system. So hf-tip total girl and get half half. So when you pay 300, a girl will go for FS getting 150. You paid 200? She gets only 100) or small amount of indies or retired AMP girls's special offer of outcall.

  13. #35298

    Patient

    Quote Originally Posted by FleshPrince  [View Original Post]
    Was the doc there?
    Only far east boomer women can be patient with grade a narcissist.

    Younger girls can not.

    You can guess whether he.

  14. #35297
    Quote Originally Posted by Ajarn  [View Original Post]
    Seems like the LE weren't deluded by the shop's name. It was searched (good that they didn't say raided like usual) yesterday. Strange that the reason given was suspicion that it was running a brothel, not that it was open and doing business.

    Are massage shops allowed now to operate openly as a person-to-person business?
    Was the doc there?

  15. #35296

    Hawaii's AMP heyday is gone

    Quote Originally Posted by DangerBoy  [View Original Post]
    I'm not a lawyer, but I do know something about bird law.

    That being said, I found this 2001 article from the New York Times about gambling on ships (Hawaii Still Resists Cruise Ship Gambling https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/06/t...sultPosition=1) (Cited in the Wikipedia article about gambling ships, but the Wikipedia entry was so badly written it wasn't worth linking to.).





    So, a large scale brothel operation probably wouldn't fly because they'd probably copy-and-paste a new law, replacing gambling with "human trafficking". And most of those rooms on cruise ships are TINY. Like less than a 100 square feet.

    I suppose you could go with a smaller scale operation, but chartering a fishing boat or a yacht is pretty expensive. You will not be getting away with a $50 HF.

    If you owned your own boat, you could do an outcall if the girl trusted you. But again, that seems like a pretty pricey solution.
    Thailand government announced their economy that hugely rely on tourism will not be the same in two years. It will take at least two years ONLY IF tourists can go back to pre-virus life with extra money for tourism. Hawaii may be on the same boat.

    No money no honey.

    And a few who plan to come to hawaii decided they will reject anyone (though he is so influential in this biz) that ask kiss, bb service and table shower. And some will change their way into more mainland style. Less tip but shorter time-more protective way.

    And no mamasan. All will be like chichis way, american style.

    Some matured superstars will retire.

    There will be a few in their 30's and early 40's (relatively safe age for coronavirus) to come back soon. But they may be quite picky. Will choose younger guys that prefer lower tip instead of short boom boom and safe play.

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