Massage Parlor Reports

[LocaLoppa]

Mahalo bro for making me remember. Fucking recreational drugs fuck up your mind when you get old, LOL. Allegedly a very, very dark time in the AMP scene here with trafficking in full swing at Empire. I read the shit about the NY scene pretty brutal and you are right. Still paid $$$ for that burger there, LOL. My friends made big bucks triple my measly below poverty wages as the Star Bulletin pointed out earlier.

I bet you AMPs go back underground here--it was like that 30 years ago. Nadamoto should know better.

You can get a better than average burger at Shake Shack for 6 bucks in tourist heaven, Flatiron. Want to step is up to excellent 10 bucks at the Burger Joint at Le Parker Meridian a block from Central Park. You can get an outstanding Burger at most mid-scale places for 15 bucks.

AMPs in NYC have gone underground because of the last 2 Mayors. Sure you can go high price for some houses, especially in Manhattan, a short trek out to suburban Queen's and there is more Chinese pussy the same prices everyone here is used to. This was the prime ground Ivy brought in Chinese pussy from to begin with. Luxx, Wan, Rachel, Joy, Sugar and so many more came from there. And went back there. There are endless choices out there and you don't have to dig. You just have to know where to look and who to ask.

[MasterChief69]

$36 dollar for gourmet burger in New York, $12 bucks here. No way we going pay New York prices for shit because we no make the big bucks like those in New York. If girls think they going get $600 to fuck in Hawaii they fucking dreaming. Price is what market will bare, LOL.

Girls smarter enough to know different locations will get different rates. Hawaii is a gold mine of volume fucking like at Empire--fucking from 8 am all rooms busy all girls fucking running from one fucking dick to another, LOL volume, baby. 150 a cum shot.

You can get a better than average burger at Shake Shack for 6 bucks in tourist heaven, Flatiron. Want to step is up to excellent 10 bucks at the Burger Joint at Le Parker Meridian a block from Central Park. You can get an outstanding Burger at most mid-scale places for 15 bucks.

AMPs in NYC have gone underground because of the last 2 Mayors. Sure you can go high price for some houses, especially in Manhattan, a short trek out to suburban Queen's and there is more Chinese pussy the same prices everyone here is used to. This was the prime ground Ivy brought in Chinese pussy from to begin with. Luxx, Wan, Rachel, Joy, Sugar and so many more came from there. And went back there. There are endless choices out there and you don't have to dig. You just have to know where to look and who to ask.

[Huggy Duggy]

Again covid 19 is not hurting young ones under 55 that much.

This lock down is bs forcing young generation into bankruptcy to make baby boomers (who enjoyed all happy youth time in prosperous era) last their greedy old breath.

You sound like a selfish.

[Handsome111]

Lots of shady shit goes down in that place, aside from massage parlors.

Case in point: HPD chief: Officers were executing search warrant before fatal shooting (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...ng-in-mccully/).

That being said, a condo in CC goes for pretty cheap (at least from what I saw on a Zillow listing). I don't know if it's because of the perception of the crime in the building or because it's lease hold. In any case, if you're serious about mongering, why not live there?

The problem is that building is leasehold so prices for units are low it sucks if you are trying to sell.

[ClaraForever]

Lots of shady shit goes down in that place, aside from massage parlors.

Case in point: HPD chief: Officers were executing search warrant before fatal shooting (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...ng-in-mccully/).

That being said, a condo in CC goes for pretty cheap (at least from what I saw on a Zillow listing). I don't know if it's because of the perception of the crime in the building or because it's lease hold. In any case, if you're serious about mongering, why not live there?

Someone post a news about this unit.

Louis kealoha, his wife, her fireman boyfriend, his attoreny Jason (he lost license).

Attorney's ex gf is AMP owner and used attorney's office phone number for AMP. So if google it, two office: brothel business and criminal defense attorney office. Then a stolen gun in AMP.

Interesting story.

[ToniMulato]

Also, if you look at the level of service these guys want in the APMs here (GFE, DFK, BBBJ, rimming, BBFSCIP, Greek) and that preferably they're young women and well-put together, we are pretty much talking about what would be the high end of the market anywhere else.

I'm an old timer, so I do remember the days 15 plus years ago of Dragon Massage, and other AMP's I visited in SF, Austin, TX. Even Vegas, Where the cutie Chinese, Korean pies were already charging $200-250.For just conventional protected sex.

[DangerBoy]

Has anyone gone to CC in the last 2 weeks? A friend of mine lives in the CC and says there alot of guys downstairs now that looks like undercover cops not sure how he knows what undercover cops look like but he did tell me the guy at the front desk told him he did see 3 guys out of uniform cuffing someone and walking him to a police car. Just was wondering if anyone went if they saw guys just sitting down or standing around watching who gets into elevator.

Lots of shady shit goes down in that place, aside from massage parlors.

Case in point: HPD chief: Officers were executing search warrant before fatal shooting (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...ng-in-mccully/).

That being said, a condo in CC goes for pretty cheap (at least from what I saw on a Zillow listing). I don't know if it's because of the perception of the crime in the building or because it's lease hold. In any case, if you're serious about mongering, why not live there?

[Ajarn]

Here are some other reasons why the young Asian providers used to come to HI. I guess it's ok to use names now cause the all-stars are history. I asked Sugar why she didn't work in LV, since she lived there, instead of having to come all the way out here. She wasn't here because she liked living here. She said her BF played in the AMP game and it would be too easy to bump into someone she knew if she worked at an AMP in LV.

One of the stars at a CC AMP once told me that she's on rotation. She spends 2 weeks at a location, then is posted to the next worksite. This is the Chinese circuit. Perhaps they want the girls to keep moving around. This made sense cause many of these PRC girls didn't stay long, and they seemed to be managed by someone. They don't come here by choice.

Another possible reason that I conjectured up by myself is that there are more AAs here, and maybe AAs are more easily satisfied. Could be the providers also like having more AA customers. Over in Southeast Asia, the SYTs now have eyes only for Asians. Westerners are completely ignored.

[ClaraForever]

$300 is still more than the guys here are willing to pay.

And in all seriousness, how long do unicorns last? Either they get wise to the fact that they could charge more or they burn out.

Guys get temporary Hawaiian airline's 250 dollars economy comfort special deal from Honolulu to NY.

That is just a very special event.

But they believe they are so special and want more more more.

Finally they want 300 dollars special USA-Dubai emirate business special.

[DangerBoy]

Also, if you look at the level of service these guys want in the APMs here (GFE, DFK, BBBJ, rimming, BBFSCIP, Greek) and that preferably they're young women and well-put together, we are pretty much talking about what would be the high end of the market anywhere else.

I think you are only talking the high end market -.

They have AMPs in new york as well -.

A unicorn named Sami that I met at blue star was from NYC.

The AMPs there are a little more - 300 will do it.

[DangerBoy]

$300 is still more than the guys here are willing to pay.

And in all seriousness, how long do unicorns last? Either they get wise to the fact that they could charge more or they burn out.

I think you are only talking the high end market -.

They have AMPs in new york as well -.

A unicorn named Sami that I met at blue star was from NYC.

The AMPs there are a little more - 300 will do it.

[PointDexterJr]

Your fundamental error is that you're looking at this strictly through the lens of a consumer. But you're not looking at it through the lens of the someone who's on the supply end.

You're working under the assumption that all women in this line of work want to line up back-to-back appointments for eight hours straight and be available on call 24/7. Or that the Honolulu market is like the NYC market. They don't and they aren't.

The NYC market favors overnighters. A typical girl in the NYC charges $2. 5 K to $6 K for an 8- to 10-hour overnighter. She gets fed at a nice restaurant, gets taken to a nice hotel, probably gets room service before the appointment ends for breakfast. Plus she's tipped (yep, that $2. 5 K to $6 K was just the going rate, not the "tip".) I'd be very surprised if she did BBFS or greek.

I think you are only talking the high end market -.

They have AMPs in new york as well -.

A unicorn named Sami that I met at blue star was from NYC.

The AMPs there are a little more - 300 will do it.

[DangerBoy]

Your fundamental error is that you're looking at this strictly through the lens of a consumer. But you're not looking at it through the lens of the someone who's on the supply end.

You're working under the assumption that all women in this line of work want to line up back-to-back appointments for eight hours straight and be available on call 24/7. Or that the Honolulu market is like the NYC market. They don't and they aren't.

The NYC market favors overnighters. A typical girl in the NYC charges $2. 5 K to $6 K for an 8- to 10-hour overnighter. She gets fed at a nice restaurant, gets taken to a nice hotel, probably gets room service before the appointment ends for breakfast. Plus she's tipped (yep, that $2. 5 K to $6 K was just the going rate, not the "tip".) I'd be very surprised if she did BBFS or greek.

Same girl tours in Vegas. The Vegas market favors dinner dates that run 3 to 4 hours. And yes, those dates have to include a meal in a restaurant. Typical cost for these dates range from $600 to $900. Again, she gets taken to a nice restaurant, outcall to a nice casino on the strip or off-strip.

Same girl comes to the Honolulu market. She has to deal with guys who want to fuck her bareback and up the ass. Plus, if she's on premises at the AMP, she's waking up every hour for some lineup that a drunk guy who's just stumbled in from the strip clubs or wherever at oh-dark-thirty.

So let's assume the girl at the AMP in Honolulu books eight hours a day. That's $1,200 (for $150/hr for 8 hours). Let's say those eight hours are booked with guys who frequent this site and fuck her the way they write about. Well, her pussy's banged up, bruised and seriously, her pussy needs to be iced down. Probably her ass too. That is seriously a thing for girls that do marathon hard fuckings. She's also not going to be in any shape to fuck the next day, at the very least. So averaged out over time, she's making less upfront and less over time because she has to take time off to work because of "volume".

And even if she isn't fucking back-to-back local equivalents of Rocco Siffredi, the consensus seems to be that the guys here fuck hard. Lots of wear and tear for not much money.

Also, take into account that according to many of the anecdotal reports here, much of the more recognizable AMP girls didn't live here. They either came back and forth between Asia or the mainland US. If the money was that good in the "volume" end of the equation, they'd want to be as close to all that income as frequently as possible.

Meanwhile, in NYC, the same girl's made $2. 5 K to $6 K for maybe a few hours of actual fucking, in Vegas maybe an hour or two of actual fucking, and she's in good shape to do it again the next day. She has time for herself, to go to the gym and make sure she's taking care of herself and her body. She is not dealing in "volume".

I can sell a burger for $36 in NYC or $12 in Hawaii. But I only have one burger. Where am I going to sell that burger? NYC, of course. Only instead of "burgers" these women sell time. There's only 24 hours that they can sell, and they can't sell all 24 hours. Also, the time of a young good-looking Asian woman is a very finite resource.

A young, good-looking 18-to-20-something woman of East Asian heritage can basically write her own ticket in the porn industry because they're in that much demand and they generate that much business. White boys LOVE asian women. This is true for providers in NYC, this is true in LA, this is true in Vegas, this is true in Dallas, this is true in Kansas City and so on. They are not for wont for someplace to sell their pussy, (To be fair, this is true of any young, good-looking woman in this game.).

If the only consideration was volume, we'd be up to our assholes in young Asian women lining up to work in the AMPs. They wouldn't just be from Korea and China, they'd be Asian girls born in the US, and even local girls. But there aren't. Because this isn't just a game of how many guys you can bang in a day, this is a game how much money you can make. Anyone would make more money with less effort instead of making less money for more effort. And Hawaii is on the "less money, more effort" end of that graph.

So why did they come to Hawaii? As others have pointed out, law enforcement was fairly laissez-faire. Everyone knew what the AMPs were, everyone knew what happened in the AMPs, but no one cared. You could essentially have a nice working vacation if you came out here. Also, don't discount the tourist traffic. I'm sure they aren't paying HF+tip.

What changed? Who knows. "Human trafficking" grants, probably, as the war on human trafficking seems to be the new war on drugs.

But COVID-19 is a real thing. It's going to be an extinction-level event for small businesses, and AMPs are really small businesses. Unemployment here is the highest in the country. Tourism isn't going to come back soon.

That is why the sex industry is about to collapse here. It was not because the money was good. It was not because they liked the guys in Hawaii in particular. It's because the policy pulled the only leg out from why a girl would come here (a place they could work with little worry about being thrown in jail) and the virus killed off disposable income here.

You pay more, you get get more. More younger younger girls, more service, more girls to choose from, period. You might not want to pay NYC prices for a burger, but NYC will pay those prices. Honolulu currently has about 477,092 males. The greater NYC area has about 9. 3 million men. Even if you take into account that only a percentage of that population sees hookers, it's way more than Honolulu. And if you take into account the number of people out that population making more than, let's say, $300 K a year, you're still coming out ahead of of the monger population here. So if you wanted to play the volume game, Hawaii would still come out way, way behind.

$36 dollar for gourmet burger in New York, $12 bucks here. No way we going pay New York prices for shit because we no make the big bucks like those in New York. If girls think they going get $600 to fuck in Hawaii they fucking dreaming. Price is what market will bare, LOL.

Girls smarter enough to know different locations will get different rates. Hawaii is a gold mine of volume fucking like at Empire--fucking from 8 am all rooms busy all girls fucking running from one fucking dick to another, LOL volume, baby. 150 a cum shot.

[DaViper]

Has anyone gone to CC in the last 2 weeks? A friend of mine lives in the CC and says there alot of guys downstairs now that looks like undercover cops not sure how he knows what undercover cops look like but he did tell me the guy at the front desk told him he did see 3 guys out of uniform cuffing someone and walking him to a police car. Just was wondering if anyone went if they saw guys just sitting down or standing around watching who gets into elevator.

[ClaraForever]

$36 dollar for gourmet burger in New York, $12 bucks here. No way we going pay New York prices for shit because we no make the big bucks like those in New York. If girls think they going get $600 to fuck in Hawaii they fucking dreaming. Price is what market will bare, LOL.

Girls smarter enough to know different locations will get different rates. Hawaii is a gold mine of volume fucking like at Empire--fucking from 8 am all rooms busy all girls fucking running from one fucking dick to another, LOL volume, baby. 150 a cum shot.

AMP is like small cruiseship inside.

Confined spaces and no natural ventilation. Air conditioner, heater can be perfect method to spread virus.

If AMP must empty used room for 3 hr (virus will run away if that space have big windows after 3 hrs), much less profit.

And do you think workers really use protecting tools with new customers for regular old mongers?

South Korea has second spike from night clubs.

Singapore from foreign workers residential that scarily look like AMP inside.

Again covid 19 is not hurting young ones under 55 that much.

This lock down is bs forcing young generation into bankruptcy to make baby boomers (who enjoyed all happy youth time in prosperous era) last their greedy old breath.

When old one who will get pension giggle young hotties will come to prostitution owing to recession, do not expect young kids will take this bs lock down only to make oldies safer.