Massage Parlor Reports

[Dodger Bulldog]

This is from Jackson's FAQ page http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/fa..._questions_01:

"What is the purpose of this Forum?

'The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women."

It appears that there are some members who have a problem with the sole reason this board exists. Then why come here?

DB

[Mrmrmr]

Here is some Osaka news then.

According to Mamasan (sp) they will reopen in about another week and a half. She is waiting for another woman with a license to come in.

What does this mean in terms of service? I don't know. I do know that most (hint) of the girls have left the State as they are afraid or just can't make any money.

[Chase Star]

I'm on record as saying that I personally think Newbies report was full of shit. I'll go further to say that I think BOTH Dodger and Newbie have been acting like idiots. Dodger for first attacking Newbie, Newbie for reacting defensively and Dodger for in turn feeding the flames. BOTH should have just let it go.

However, whatever else you can say about Newbie, if he is a taker, he is no more so than the probable vast majority of members that come to this site, take information and never post anything back at all. At least he has tried to post some things, whatever value you might assign to them. Actually, I think he raised a few other good points in his last few posts (surprisingly enough)

...if posting about Osaka is not news then there hasn't been a hell of a lot of news in this section for quite some time. I'd say at least 95% of the Osaka posts don't really qualify as news either. In fact, probably only a very tiny handful of people here actually "discovered" Osaka on their own and only one member posted the first report. Sure there has been the occasional new girl, but besides that how much of any of the rest that followed really could be considered "news". Your post just further proves my real point about how pointless nearly all of the posting about Osaka has been.

If you want to start assigning value to other members posts there is probably a lot around here that could be questioned (my posts included). How have most of the posts around here, up until the recent Osaka closing, been anything more than "I got laid cheaply but I aint telling you anything you didn't already really know! Nah nah nah nah nah...". Look how dead this section has become (except for this little battle between DB and Newb) since we can no longer boast of our recent "conquests" at Osaka (or similar alleged places).

I don't think posting about the content of our "dreams" really tells LEO anything they didn't already know, but it can drastically pump up business at a particular place and that's what I think did in Osaka. There are lots of AMP's that somehow continue to operate despite the fact that they don't provide licensed massages. The only thing that made Osaka different was the car after car that conspicuously disrupted traffic trying to pull into that little parking off of busy Hillsborough Bv. For these places to survive they need to stay as inconspicuous as possible in the neighborhood or someone is gonna say "stop, look what's going on next door and do we really want that here".

I'm not saying we shouldn't share info of new places that provide good service and value with each other. I'm just saying I understand Newbie's conflicted values if indeed there is anything to what he reported.

[Drew Park]

Will you two guys knock it off!

Monger testosterone frustrations are pretty high here with the closing on that "unnamed place" on Hillsborough Ave.

Then N 2006 reports he found an alternate Nirvana with service and costs identical to the "unnamed place" on Hillsborough. Those of us who have been here for a while and have sampled more than *****, were skeptical. Very skeptical.

Now we have this personal blustering about manhood on these pages. Don't need it. Don't want to read it.

N 2006 - If you are uncomfortable about sharing the details here on the board then feel free to PM those who ask.

Otherwise it is nothing more than "I got laid cheaply but I aint telling! Nah nah nah nah nah..."

[Newbie 2006]

Remember, you are the one who challenged me to review your posts to find all the info you claimed to share.

I've no problem at all with your reviewing my posts if you've qot so much time on yout hands you want to do that. All I was questioning was your conclusions about that review. Maybe you "found nothing of value" to yourselfhat is your own value judgement. You said I give nothing to the board but only take. And yet in your own review of my posts the simple fact is you could find nothing that qualified as a question or of in any other way as just taking. And, at the same time, whatever your personal views about the value of those posts might be, the simple fact is that they offered something back to the board. Maybe they were just opinions, or speculations or boring (to you) stories, but at least they were something. What you personally think of them, I could really care less.

You are reduced to making up your own fantasy about me in an silly attempt to make a personal attack. Instead of dealing with the issue.

Weak, man. Very childish.

I know you are, but what am I? Is that the best you've got? And who are you to complain about personal attacks? Weren't you the one that started all this by personally attacking me? Before that I happened I had never even directly addressed you or any of your posts. Any way, believe me, the last thing I have is ANY fantasy about you. Maybe you think I do in your homo-erotic dreams. All I did was offer a concrete example of factual information that I have GIVEN to the board. It was directly "dealing with the issue" because by itself disproved your charges that I am only a taker. I only added a speculation that the comment I made might have something to do with why you seem so fixated on attacking me and taking the time to review my posts in a vain attempt to bolster your baseless charges. Whether that motivator is really the basis for your attacks or not I really have no idea and don't much care. But I will say this, your defensive reaction suggests that I might have hit close to the mark.

The animosity is all yours. I just held a mirror up so you could look at yourself. I quoted your own words to show how you take information from the board but refuse to give back to your fellow mongers.

Obviously, it set you off. I guess you don't like what you see in that mirror.

It takes two to tango, brother. Maybe you should look in that mirror yourself. If there is no animosity, why did you continue to make such long and involved posts. Obviously what I've posted has "set you off" as well. What you have quoted proves absolutely nothing. What you have written proves only how lame you can be too. Maybe you shouldn't be casting any stones.

[Dodger Bulldog]

AND I ALSO proved how I give back to the board.

You had some choices. Perhaps you should have just kept quiet, since you knew how little you had reported. Or maybe you should have apologized to the board and shared your "secret."

But no, you decided to challenge me to review your posts to find all the info you claim to have provided. Bad call.

So I did, and I found nothing of value. All you "proved" in your next post was that you had nothing to point a link at, just as I had predicted.

I simply replied with what Tina told me: "the only times she'll ever do it is if the guys dick is really small so that it doesn't hurt as much." Now maybe, you got her to do greek with you and were offended by what I related. I'm sorry if I insulted your manhood.

You are reduced to making up a fantasy about me in an silly attempt to make a personal attack. Instead of dealing with the issue.

Weak, man. Very childish.

But going beyond any personal animosity between us

The animosity is all yours. I just held a mirror up so you could look at yourself. I reflected your own words back to you to show how you take information from the board but refuse to give information back to your fellow mongers.

Obviously, that set you off. I guess you don't like what you see in that mirror.

The other guys' comments show what they think of you and your inflammatory ways.

I'm done with you. You are now on my ignore list.

DB

[Newbie 2006]

Dodge Artist,

All I know is that you called me "a taker". Exactly what you meant to imply by that could be several things but I addressed both possibilities. I'm not some type of cheapskate. I pointed out how I give to the girls. AND I ALSO proved how I give back to the board. You may question the value of my info, but at least I haven't just asked a lot of questions, like most newbies do (in fact, I haven't asked for [b]anything[b]). Or worse, I haven't just lurked around, like I'm sure far more people do, just reading the reports of others. I freely offered whatever there was that I could share and just got slapped in the face for it.

Besides, I question your completely subjective classification of my posts. Posting reviews of my experiences at Osaka may not qualify as "new" info to you, but it is still info. For example, someone specifically asked if greek was available there. The very same evening as several senior members chimed in on the same question, I simply replied with what Tina told me: "the only times she'll ever do it is if the guys dick is really small so that it doesn't hurt as much." Now maybe, you got her to do greek with you and were offended by what I related. I'm sorry if I insulted your manhood.

But going beyond any personal animosity between us, if posting about Osaka is not news then there hasn't been a hell of a lot of news in this section for quite some time. I'd say at least 95% of the Osaka posts don't really qualify as news either. In fact, probably only a very tiny handful of people here actually "discovered" Osaka on their own and only one member posted the first report. Sure there has been the occasional new girl, but besides that how much of any of the rest that followed really could be considered "news". Your post just further proves my real point about how pointless nearly all of the posting about Osaka has been.

Oh yeah, since you're taking all this time to personally rate my posts, you can put this one down as "personal defensiveness" too but maybe if people didn't attack everything I say so much (do those posts qualify as news to you either?), I wouldn't have to defend myself. Even paranoids have enemies.

[Dodger Bulldog]

Newbie,

When I said you are a taker, it has nothing to do with how much you tip, and you know that. Don't try to change the subject.

It has everything to do with using information posted on the board to find what you want, but never writing posts with any information that helps others find what they are looking for.

Besides, recheck my posts. I don't post here often but I've definitely shared info with my fellow members in the past

Okay, Newbie, I accepted your challenge and reviewed all 15 of your posts.

Not once did you provide any information about anyone or any place new that your fellow mongers could use.

I would categorize the 15 posts as follows:

Osaka (not news) 5
"White slavery" (your terminology) 5
Personal Defensiveness 3
SW Fashion Critic 1
"New AMP" (unnamed, no location) 1

Now I am CHALLENGING YOU to provide a link here to any report you've written where you "shared info with my fellow members" that is of any usefullness.

Your Osaka reports that have no useful information whatsoever, only what a generous tipper you are. Oh yeah, and how you were turned down for Greek.

DB

[Chase Star]

Well I for one think that newbie's full of shit. (or forgot to take his meds)

[Tampa Monger]

What now?

The beauty of Osaka was down'n'dirty, unrushed service with good-looking* girls for an unbeatable price. This combination just doesn't exist anywhere. I can get down'n'dirty rushed service with a hot girl at Lipstixx, for instance, and the price isn't too bad, but I HATE to be rushed. I learned to live with it, but Osaka has spoiled me.

Fucking government shitbags. Believe it or not, I want our hobby to remain illegal. I just want enforcement to be lax. The reason I want it to remain illegal is because if it were ever made legal in this country it would end up a latex-wrapped nightmare because Americans are such puritans. No BBBJs, etc. I don't want that. Also, the fact that it's illegal kind of turns me on a bit when I'm at it, you know what I'm saying?

*I only found a few of them good-looking: Tina, Yumi (my ATF: young, unrushed, hot body, beautiful ass, god I miss her), Judy (hot body), Anna, and that's about it. I stuck with them. Fortunately all three also provided great service. (The rest were mostly fugly, in my opinion. But to each his own.)

Newbie 2006 And The Mystery Parlor

As for Newbie 2006, I'm now inclined to believe him. When I said that his post was 100% dream, I thought he was misleading us because he was angry with some of the people on this board, but after reading his last post I'm not so sure.

Anyway, whether Newb tells me or I find it myself, I WILL find the place he's talking about, if it exists.

[Member #3929]

To each his own, I guess. I found Sunny worthless, Penny mediocre, and Tina marvelous. This Bobbie was between Penny and Tina in service, but hotter than both put together times 10. Unfortunately everything was covered. I like my BBBJs. Can't come with a condom on.

Very interesting. I would say Penny and Sunny always gave the extra mile with me. I don't know why, but those two women treated me like few women have treated me in the "real" world. Tina was awesome as well, but a bit less enthusiastic when it came to me. Probably chemistry...

Still, this Bobbie must be experienced!

[Tampa Monger]

Are we talking "fantastic" like in Sunny, Penny or Tina?

To each his own, I guess. I found Sunny worthless, Penny mediocre, and Tina marvelous. This Bobbie was between Penny and Tina in service, but hotter than both put together times 10. Unfortunately everything was covered. I like my BBBJs. Can't come with a condom on.

[Member #3929]

Well, pretty much everything about Newbie's post except the $$ reminds me of Sunshine, which I just visited today. I saw "Bobbie". By far the hottest AMP girl I've ever had, and also the most expensive at $80 + $200 (full service). Fantastic, but I can't repeat for that money.

Are we talking "fantastic" like in Sunny, Penny or Tina?

[Tampa Monger]

Well, pretty much everything about Newbie's post except the $$ reminds me of Sunshine, which I just visited today. I saw "Bobbie". By far the hottest AMP girl I've ever had, and also the most expensive at $80 + $200 (full service). Fantastic, but I can't repeat for that money.

[Drew Park]

I think this is 100% dream and nothing more, but I hope I'm wrong.

I agree. I think I have visited all the FS spas (most closed now...) and outside of the late Osaka, none are as inexpensive as he reported. In fact, the going rate for FS with an Asian honey was $$ but it was somewhat negotiable... but certainly NOT down to 80.

And from my experience few spas offer a "line up" especially for newbies.