Massage Parlor Reports

[Dr Willy]

Thanks for letting me know. Lost track of Mimi Made an appointment at SPA 36. Mimi is extremely attractive. Had a fantastic time and will continue to go back.

I think I saw this girl at Spa 36 back in late July, but I thought they were calling her "Minnie", which is a name I know I've seen there before (frankly, couldn't remember what Minnie looked like, so can't really confirm if it's the same girl). In any case, while the girl I saw at Spa 36 in late July was strikingly beautiful (even though she kept the mask on most of the time, except for CBJ in 69 and at the end when I ASKED to see her face as I was leaving), and had a near perfectly proportioned body for a taller girl, she DID seem a bit "loose" in the fitting, so to speak. I had a bit of a struggle to convince junior to go ahead and let go while sloshing about in the more than roomy confines of the crevice of pleasure.

[Brasky]

While this has been an interesting debate. Anyone know where to find Coco? I've seen a couple reports for Coco's, but not sure they are The Coco. Thanks.

[Trav12]

So I can confirm that this is the Mimi originally from Orange Spa and then Venus. I haven't seen her in about 5 years but she remembered me right away. She looks young but don't be fooled. She is easily in her early 40's but has an amazing body. Paid the same as Eagle and had a fantastic time. Will be back

Thanks for letting me know. Lost track of Mimi Made an appointment at SPA 36. Mimi is extremely attractive. Had a fantastic time and will continue to go back.

[BradentonBob]

No, I'm very familiar with collusion, and it's vastly overrated. Collusion requires a lot of organization and discipline. It's easier at the same spa, not so easy across spas in competition. Even at the same spa, tip negotiations happen behind close doors, and the impulse to cheat is strong, especially if the higher price is keeping customers away and reducing overall income. Remember, high prices only lead to high income if the guys are willing to pay them. But there are many who would rather do without the service altogether or would rather cum less frequently. If you do 4 guys a day at $40 a pop, you've made $1,120 in a week. If you double that price for the same service, you might get more like 1 per day, which is only $560 per week. You might argue that doubling the price won't reduce the number of customers that much. We know that isn't true, because otherwise they would do this. Every new customer brings in not only money but risk of arrest, so it's better to have fewer customers than more. The fact that they don't do this shows that the market will not bear the higher price under the current circumstances. Spa prices are a powerful balance between supply, demand, and risk. This is why door fees and service fees don't stray too far out of a standard range, except for premium service like Han River.

A few yahoos paying more aren't going to do squat, otherwise it would already have happened. The only thing that will change the standard price is a fundamental change in supply, demand, and / or risk, just like everything else in economics. Economists get many things wrong. This isn't one of them. The empirical and theoretical evidence for it is enormous and universally accepted except by a few discredited Marxists.

Bottom line: This is not a realistic worry. I'd worry more about a harder line by the cops or about spa girls being deported back to their own countries, changing the supply dynamic. That would raise prices for sure.

Direct your concerns to your police fear and let us worry about the economics. As for "collusion", you think these girls don't float around place to place? Even working under 1 company, they may have several locations so the word spreads intra-orgizationally. Then, the fact that many of them read this site, our posts also fuel the rise in expectations. So again, your attempt at applying standard economics does not fit this model.

[Tampahunter]

This is a question for the regulars here. I did search the forum and didn't find any relevant info which is why I'm asking. Are there any grooming places in Tampa that will provide a HE? Go for a shave or wax down there and get a HE for a fee?

Sorry if this question is not in the right thread.

Jen / Kayjen is massage and HE only, does manscaping too. Advertises on Adultlook, on Fletcher near 75, safe apartment?

[Tampa Monger]

You seem to have skipped over the chapter on collusion. Not all but many of these girls know each other and being women they damn sure talk, and what subject of conversation would be more near and dear to them than talking about the different flavors of kim-chee, is the:. The money they charge. Just sayin'.

No, I'm very familiar with collusion, and it's vastly overrated. Collusion requires a lot of organization and discipline. It's easier at the same spa, not so easy across spas in competition. Even at the same spa, tip negotiations happen behind close doors, and the impulse to cheat is strong, especially if the higher price is keeping customers away and reducing overall income. Remember, high prices only lead to high income if the guys are willing to pay them. But there are many who would rather do without the service altogether or would rather cum less frequently. If you do 4 guys a day at $40 a pop, you've made $1,120 in a week. If you double that price for the same service, you might get more like 1 per day, which is only $560 per week. You might argue that doubling the price won't reduce the number of customers that much. We know that isn't true, because otherwise they would do this. Every new customer brings in not only money but risk of arrest, so it's better to have fewer customers than more. The fact that they don't do this shows that the market will not bear the higher price under the current circumstances. Spa prices are a powerful balance between supply, demand, and risk. This is why door fees and service fees don't stray too far out of a standard range, except for premium service like Han River.

A few yahoos paying more aren't going to do squat, otherwise it would already have happened. The only thing that will change the standard price is a fundamental change in supply, demand, and / or risk, just like everything else in economics. Economists get many things wrong. This isn't one of them. The empirical and theoretical evidence for it is enormous and universally accepted except by a few discredited Marxists.

Bottom line: This is not a realistic worry. I'd worry more about a harder line by the cops or about spa girls being deported back to their own countries, changing the supply dynamic. That would raise prices for sure.

[BradentonBob]

You seem to have skipped over the chapter on collusion. Not all but many of these girls know each other and being women they damn sure talk, and what subject of conversation would be more near and dear to them than talking about the different flavors of kim-chee, is the:. The money they charge. Just sayin'.

Economics as a science does not apply in this world. Supply / demand does not prevent GPS.

[SMegmaMonster]

(Yes, I'm a credentialed economist.).

You seem to have skipped over the chapter on collusion. Not all but many of these girls know each other and being women they damn sure talk, and what subject of conversation would be more near and dear to them than talking about the different flavors of kim-chee, is the:. The money they charge. Just sayin'.

[Bill Ho]

Search for "Manscaping" Bill Ho.

This is a question for the regulars here. I did search the forum and didn't find any relevant info which is why I'm asking. Are there any grooming places in Tampa that will provide a HE? Go for a shave or wax down there and get a HE for a fee?

Sorry if this question is not in the right thread.

[TampaDude250]

This is a question for the regulars here. I did search the forum and didn't find any relevant info which is why I'm asking. Are there any grooming places in Tampa that will provide a HE? Go for a shave or wax down there and get a HE for a fee?

Sorry if this question is not in the right thread.

[Tampa Monger]

If you show up and give them 80, and based on that someone else shows up and gives them 80, pretty soon they won't perform for less than 80. In the case of this hobby, it IS different than a restaurant. At Applebees, if table 1 tips 15% and table 2 tips 40%, server's expectations don't start changing to everyone tipping 40%.

No, it isn't different from a restaurant. A few guys paying more or even less isn't going to change anything. The price will find an equilibrium based on supply and demand just like any other kind of labor, from ditch-digging to lawyering. Expectations do matter, but they're not as important as supply and demand. If one girl or place starts charging more than the market will bear, other girls and places will undercut them to get their business until the market clears, just as in any other business. Think about it like this. Imagine some of Coco's customers suddenly start paying $80. She didn't ask them to, they just did. You come to see Coco and are surprised to learn she wants $80. You walk out and go to another spa where you find Lulu, who is willing to jerk your junk for $40. More and more men starting going to Lulu and Coco begins to lose her business. (High prices only mean high income if people are willing to pay them.) To try to recapture her business, she lowers her price. Eventually, the price finds a happy medium. This medium occurs at the intersection between the lowest price at which most girls are willing to perform the service and the highest price most johns are willing to pay. This is called the "market-clearing" price.

Spa girls aren't carbon copies of each other. Some are hotter and younger, some are older and uglier. Some are slutty and fun, others are mechanical and standoffish. I'm willing to pay more for a hot, young, sexy, slutty fun girl than I am for an ugly, old, mechanical, standoffish hag. You're not "paying for a handjob" you're "paying for a handjob with a particular spa girl". It's not the same product. If Coco in my example above is much hotter, younger, and more fun than Lulu, she may be able to keep her price higher, because it's not the same product. (And if you think it is, then go see Lulu for the lower price and forget about Coco. You'll be just as happy.) This is why the Han River girls get a lot more money than your average spa girls.

If half the spa girls decide to go back to their home countries but the demand remains the same, the price will rise. Maybe not by double, but it will. If the number of spas girls doubles and demand remains the same, the price will fall, as long as they are willing to work for that price. If it drops to something like $20, I think many will say it's not worth it and quit to go do something else that doesn't involve jacking guys off and the risk of arrest. That will cause the price to rise again.

When it comes to prices and supply and demand, there just isn't anything special about spas. It's the same as any other kind of business. So my recommendation is to stop worrying about it. It's not realistic.

(Yes, I'm a credentialed economist.).

[Skeot16]

Well said. Keep it $40. These girls make $250/300 a day. Don't feel bad for them.

I'm pretty sure that the girls make a lot more than $250-300 a day. I'm all about taking care of the girl if it's a good massage and release. I've been in the hobby for about 15 years and the price has always been $40 so quit acting like a bigger tip is going to change things.

[SlackAction]

If you show up and give them 80, and based on that someone else shows up and gives them 80, pretty soon they won't perform for less than 80. In the case of this hobby, it IS different than a restaurant. At Applebees, if table 1 tips 15% and table 2 tips 40%, server's expectations don't start changing to everyone tipping 40%.

Well said. Keep it $40. These girls make $250/300 a day. Don't feel bad for them.

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