Massage Parlor Reports

[TremontTeddy]

It will be interesting to see. If so, it will be the end of an era. I'll admit, I haven't frequented AMPs much since Han River went down. Momo, June and Soda were fantastic providers. I think Momo is in Atlanta and out of the industry. Soda pretty much lives in Atlanta and works down here. June was in jail for a while and not sure what's she is doing now. I miss Momo a lot.

According to the post, Soda is not coming back due to "back pain". That's tough. I know she is an avid runner and carrying that much weight on her chest can't be easy. She's a wonderful person. I wish her good luck.

I heard HR Mimi retired. HR June still has the criminal case, out on bail. Not sure if any restrictions but I'm sure council told her to stay out of trouble.

[Beefer99]

I won't duplicate the entire post history, but check this post out (and the one immediately below the one at this link):

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...67#post6624767

Probably needs verification, but doom and gloom over Soda likely not returning makes it a sad day.

It will be interesting to see. If so, it will be the end of an era. I'll admit, I haven't frequented AMPs much since Han River went down. Momo, June and Soda were fantastic providers. I think Momo is in Atlanta and out of the industry. Soda pretty much lives in Atlanta and works down here. June was in jail for a while and not sure what's she is doing now. I miss Momo a lot.

According to the post, Soda is not coming back due to "back pain". That's tough. I know she is an avid runner and carrying that much weight on her chest can't be easy. She's a wonderful person. I wish her good luck.

[Random Guy 12]

Back when I was in Chicago I visited a KAMP where the woman charged $150 for a massage that started normal and then moved towards erotic and ended up with a long period of edging with the hands. They didn't want a tip, just the $150 up front. I honestly found it better than full on sex or a blowjob, and am wondering if anyone around here offers similar services. Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask LOL.

[Dr Willy]

(...) The Tampa area has been 150 for a long time. (...)

$. 04 is standard around here. Crystal doesn't get a lot of attention on here anymore, its kinda low key, but they used to be one of the best. (...) Then they were overtaken by some more enthusiastic AMP's. Crystal sometimes gets a little better clientele bc of its location so they might get a little more out of customers, but $. 04 is definitely the standard. (...) You would receive similar if not better service at Yoshiko around the corner (...) If they push you on price you can be polite but push back. Its a negotiation. (...) Personally if I get a lot of attitude, I just walk.

I dunno what you guys have been paying, but it's been widely reported here, by myself and many others, that the standard House Fee and Tip Rate for what I call the " High-End Korean AMPs in the Tampa Bay area has been 80 House Fee for an hour and 60 for a half-hour, plus 160 Tip for an hour of FS, and 140 for a half-hour of FS. This would include, but not necessarily be limited to, Yoshiko, Yokohama, Orange, and Crystal in Tampa; Pine Tree, Eve's Spa, and Palace in Pinellas County (probably one or two more, but not many). This rate structure has been consistently in place for more than the 8 years I've been visiting the many Korean AMPs up and down Kennedy Blvd and Dale Mabry Hwy, as well as all around Pinellas County, including many closed establishments like Han River on Lois Ave, Kim's Massage on Kennedy, Venus on Cypress, Lucky Spa on Kennedy, and some I can't remember in Pinellas.

As alluded to earlier by RubMapper, ALL of these places source their talent from a closely-knit community of Korean providers nationwide. That doesn't necessarily mean girls freely rotate between ALL of the current locations, although some mingle a bit (like the main talent at Yoshiko in Tampa and Pine Tree in Largo rotating between those two locations), but it does mean they "know one another." I've referred to this community as the "Korean Koffee Klatch" of local providers and they DO, in fact, collude, in a loose-knit fashion, to set not only pricing but also services (this is why you find that NONE of these places offer BBBJ, for example, and the rest of their services closely mirror one another).

Regarding Crystal Spa in particular: The legendary Joanne used to work, for many years, exclusively at Crystal Spa... then she abruptly vanished about 2½-3 years ago, only to turn up a short time later at Yoshiko/Pine Tree. I've never been able to get a full disclosure from her on exactly WHY she moved, but the implication was a change in ownership or management (let's call that speculation). Then, among the 'replacement talent' at Crystal, Coco (and others) started asking (and holding out for) a 200 tip, while only begrudgingly granting me FS for the mere 160 I brought with me. Needless to say, following that episode, I crossed Crystal off my list, as did many other guys. I believe it's largely for THAT reason that you hear so little about Crystal these days. As a side note, it's actually good to read RubMapper's report that his unnamed provider was clearly stating a tip rate of 160 (20 more than the 140 he brought), so perhaps they've yielded to the pressure of the Korean Koffee Klatch and brought their tip demand back in line with the rest of them. A well-known busty provider at Yoshiko actually told me (back then) that she had heard that Crystal was trying to increase their tip rate and she, the Yoshiko provider, thought that was completely unreasonable. Although she sounded sincere, and I do have a high level of trust with this provider, you always gotta take anything they say with a grain of salt, but she did seem to be telling me that their 160 rate was NOT going up (perhaps as a way to assure I would return rather than try Crystal again).

Going into an AMP with the mindset that you're about to be in a 'negotiation' is also a proven method to court disappointment, in my opinion. I find it's more productive to conduct any 'negotiation' BEFORE even walking in the door and doing that negotiation only with yourself. This can be accomplished through research (here on USASG, for example) to determine ahead of time exactly what rates are generally accepted at the AMP in question and then being prepared to offer exactly THAT amount (let's call that the local market rate) and doing so BEFORE your provider has the opportunity to 'open a negotiation' with a much higher demand while hoping to 'come down' as little as possible. In this way, you're presenting the tip amount you KNOW she'll work for and you're overtly demonstrating to your provider that you KNOW that amount and you can't be snookered into some outrageously high tip. My personal approach for doing this, when the provider asks "What do you want?", is to say exactly THIS: "I have 160 for everything"

By the way, Yoshiko is not "around the corner". Rather, it's "down the street" on the opposite side of Kennedy Blvd. And if anyone is real experienced at "walking out" of an AMP over pricing or attitude, in my view, that's another way of saying "not at all informed or very experienced" at what the actual market rate is for the area. That 'attitude' most often shows up when a client demonstrates a lack of that understanding. I also have a suspicion that anyone paying even a smidge less than that 160 standard tip rate may be unknowingly getting shorted on the full range of services, engagement, and enthusiasm for the session... while the girls may not always balk at an offer being 10 or 20 short, I think you'll see even their slight disappointment show up during the session - which is just my opinion.

[RubMapper]

$. 04 is standard around here. Crystal doesn't get a lot of attention on here anymore, its kinda low key, but they used to be one of the best. My ATF Diana used to work there years ago but she retired to Koreatown in LA. Then they were overtaken by some more enthusiastic AMP's. Crystal sometimes gets a little better clientele bc of its location so they might get a little more out of customers, but $. 04 is definitely the standard. You can always walk and ask for your money back. You would receive similar if not better service at Yoshiko around the corner or a few other places nearby. If they push you on price you can be polite but push back. Its a negotiation. A bad review on here is far more damaging to business than $. 2 would be in their pocket. Personally if I get a lot of attitude, I just walk. Service, demeanor and enthusiasm is far more important to me than just about any other quality. Usually if it starts with attitude it kinda spoils the entire session at least IMO.

Yep $. 4 is also what they accepted at the Orange spa nearby so that is how much I brought, but the girl I like wasn't there. In SoCal places, it was $. 2 for 30 min FS and that was only after services, and the K girls were a little younger. Think she just tried really hard to convince me and I got tired of arguing and since I already paid the house fee anyway.

[SlackAction]

Went to Crystal spa recently this summer for the first time and one of my strangest spa experiences. Mamasan checks my I'd and lets me in and I ask her what girl I am going to get, she says don't worry because it is my first time so I don't know any of the girls. Now she brings a blonde girl, probably at least late 30's, huge D's that scared me, thin to average build, pretty face with a lot of makeup, shoulder length wavy hair. I immediately ask for her name and she gets an attitude and says "no I'm not telling you! You want a massage or not?" I said ok because she was kind of my type except I like B's. Now she starts to get very bossy, maybe because I look younger but ordering me where to go and telling me when to go to the shower. After I get on the massage table she does some small talk and a decent massage and presses hard. She asks me how I know about the place, and I said online and I'm only visiting because my ATF at Orange Spa is on vacation. She mentions this site and RM and also somehow knew the name of my ATF too so I was surprised by that and said all the girls are from the same Korean communities. Now I ask her name again and she said her name is Lee but I'm pretty sure she just gave me a common Korean last name. On the flip I said I want FS and give her $. 4 and she gets an attitude and starts saying that isn't the normal rate and I am missing. 2. Now tell her I am from the LA area where the prices are lower and usually payment comes after service and she says they are different here and we are arguing for a couple minutes. I tell her fine I am come back later and pay and she says no and says I need to get it from the ATM, tell her ok but after services and finally she agrees. We did k9, missionary, and cg, and she was very vocal and aggressive. Then after we are done I kept telling her prices are lower at Korean spas in LA but she forced me go to the ATM to get a. 2 and says I need to respect working girls. Overall she was strict but provided a fair service, but I've never met a Korean like her because they are more timid.

You're going to complain over $20. She doesn't give a shit what others accept someplace else. The Tampa area has been 150 for a long time. They have attitudes because of cheap men. It's not a flea market where you beat them down on price. Hell if she was hot 150 would be a good deal. And people wonder why these ladies hate guests. SMH.

[GemiHilarious]

Went to Crystal spa recently this summer for the first time and one of my strangest spa experiences. Mamasan checks my I'd and lets me in and I ask her what girl I am going to get, she says don't worry because it is my first time so I don't know any of the girls. Now she brings a blonde girl, probably at least late 30's, huge D's that scared me, thin to average build, pretty face with a lot of makeup, shoulder length wavy hair. I immediately ask for her name and she gets an attitude and says "no I'm not telling you! You want a massage or not?" I said ok because she was kind of my type except I like B's. Now she starts to get very bossy, maybe because I look younger but ordering me where to go and telling me when to go to the shower. After I get on the massage table she does some small talk and a decent massage and presses hard. She asks me how I know about the place, and I said online and I'm only visiting because my ATF at Orange Spa is on vacation. She mentions this site and RM and also somehow knew the name of my ATF too so I was surprised by that and said all the girls are from the same Korean communities. Now I ask her name again and she said her name is Lee but I'm pretty sure she just gave me a common Korean last name. On the flip I said I want FS and give her $. 4 and she gets an attitude and starts saying that isn't the normal rate and I am missing. 2. Now tell her I am from the LA area where the prices are lower and usually payment comes after service and she says they are different here and we are arguing for a couple minutes. I tell her fine I am come back later and pay and she says no and says I need to get it from the ATM, tell her ok but after services and finally she agrees. We did k9, missionary, and cg, and she was very vocal and aggressive. Then after we are done I kept telling her prices are lower at Korean spas in LA but she forced me go to the ATM to get a. 2 and says I need to respect working girls. Overall she was strict but provided a fair service, but I've never met a Korean like her because they are more timid.

$. 04 is standard around here. Crystal doesn't get a lot of attention on here anymore, its kinda low key, but they used to be one of the best. My ATF Diana used to work there years ago but she retired to Koreatown in LA. Then they were overtaken by some more enthusiastic AMP's. Crystal sometimes gets a little better clientele bc of its location so they might get a little more out of customers, but $. 04 is definitely the standard. You can always walk and ask for your money back. You would receive similar if not better service at Yoshiko around the corner or a few other places nearby. If they push you on price you can be polite but push back. Its a negotiation. A bad review on here is far more damaging to business than $. 2 would be in their pocket. Personally if I get a lot of attitude, I just walk. Service, demeanor and enthusiasm is far more important to me than just about any other quality. Usually if it starts with attitude it kinda spoils the entire session at least IMO.

[RubMapper]

Went to Crystal spa recently this summer for the first time and one of my strangest spa experiences. Mamasan checks my I'd and lets me in and I ask her what girl I am going to get, she says don't worry because it is my first time so I don't know any of the girls. Now she brings a blonde girl, probably at least late 30's, huge D's that scared me, thin to average build, pretty face with a lot of makeup, shoulder length wavy hair. I immediately ask for her name and she gets an attitude and says "no I'm not telling you! You want a massage or not?" I said ok because she was kind of my type except I like B's. Now she starts to get very bossy, maybe because I look younger but ordering me where to go and telling me when to go to the shower. After I get on the massage table she does some small talk and a decent massage and presses hard. She asks me how I know about the place, and I said online and I'm only visiting because my ATF at Orange Spa is on vacation. She mentions this site and RM and also somehow knew the name of my ATF too so I was surprised by that and said all the girls are from the same Korean communities. Now I ask her name again and she said her name is Lee but I'm pretty sure she just gave me a common Korean last name. On the flip I said I want FS and give her $. 4 and she gets an attitude and starts saying that isn't the normal rate and I am missing. 2. Now tell her I am from the LA area where the prices are lower and usually payment comes after service and she says they are different here and we are arguing for a couple minutes. I tell her fine I am come back later and pay and she says no and says I need to get it from the ATM, tell her ok but after services and finally she agrees. We did k9, missionary, and cg, and she was very vocal and aggressive. Then after we are done I kept telling her prices are lower at Korean spas in LA but she forced me go to the ATM to get a. 2 and says I need to respect working girls. Overall she was strict but provided a fair service, but I've never met a Korean like her because they are more timid.

[LazyBones]

I remember back in the day they had a Rolodex with names and birthdays in it. When you were there you had to tell them your name and then they would look you up. You had to remember not only your alias but the imagined birthday. Then they would let you in.

Pine Tree has the best Talent around. And rotates girls monthly or bi-monthly. Joanne is there right now and is excellent! Total GFE, great kisser too! Wonderful personality and service. One of the Top 5 Girls in the area! Gorgeous spinner with long black hair and large B cup, tight ass, no tats, beautiful / sweet face. Know how to make people very happy. Free table shower too.

111 XX 66th St and STE 101, Largo, FL 33773.

Phone: 727xxxx509.

https://pine-tree-massage-spa-largo.business.site/

[Grven3]

BBBJ and BBFS is close to non existent in the area. BBBJ used to only be common in Orlando before it took a hit.

Yoshiko and PT are both great. Only downside to Yoshiko is no TS. Palace in Palm Harbor is probably the closest to you of comparable service.

It is always best to make an appointment. Just easier and you get the girl you want.

Going rate is. 6 for a hhr. 8 for an hr. That's the house fee. I tend to go all the way so add an additional $. 6 to the time you're spending.

No BBBJ, hmm maybe I'll skip the AMPs.

Thanks for the info.

[Anon44]

BBBJ and BBFS is close to non existent in the area. BBBJ used to only be common in Orlando before it took a hit.

Yoshiko and PT are both great. Only downside to Yoshiko is no TS. Palace in Palm Harbor is probably the closest to you of comparable service.

It is always best to make an appointment. Just easier and you get the girl you want.

Going rate is. 6 for a hhr. 8 for an hr. That's the house fee. I tend to go all the way so add an additional $. 6 to the time you're spending.

I haven't been to an AMP for a long time but just returned from a trip to Japan and thought I might give it a try.

Some questions:

1. I'm into young (looking under 30? Petite girls, that are energetic. Minimum BBBJ, CFS. CIM and / or BBFS would be nice.

2. I'm near oldsmar, it sounds like Yoshiko and Pine Tree is recommended. Anywhere else?

3. Reading some google reviews, I see some people complain that they are turned away stating an appt is needed. Is this true?

4. What's the going rate for services? I want to bring the right amount of cash. And what's the procedure? Last time I went to an AMP, I remember I just gave the girl the full amount and she knew what to do.

[Grven3]

I haven't been to an AMP for a long time but just returned from a trip to Japan and thought I might give it a try.

Some questions:

1. I'm into young (looking under 30? Petite girls, that are energetic. Minimum BBBJ, CFS. CIM and / or BBFS would be nice.

2. I'm near oldsmar, it sounds like Yoshiko and Pine Tree is recommended. Anywhere else?

3. Reading some google reviews, I see some people complain that they are turned away stating an appt is needed. Is this true?

4. What's the going rate for services? I want to bring the right amount of cash. And what's the procedure? Last time I went to an AMP, I remember I just gave the girl the full amount and she knew what to do.

[NorinRad]

No offense meant. She sounds like fun, but what good is the post without the girls NAME?? Are we supposed to ask for the short 5'0" girl? LMAO.

After spending a few hours messaging girls off EB with no luck I finally had enough and just decided to head out to my old reliable, Spa Yokohama. This place is so underrated based on how little I see it mentioned on here, but I've been going here for years and they consistently have good quality girls, never any drama, and the price hasn't changed in 5 years.

Anyway, so I walk in, Mamasan takes me back, I say I want a half hour, normally I go for the hour, but tonight I just wanted to get to it quickly since the girl always drags out the massage when it's an hour. So the girl walks in and she's tiny, like 5'0" probably, with some decent curves for her size, probably in her mid to late 30's or early 40's, but of course asian so you can barely tell and she could easily pass for her 20's. Long black typical asian hair and a cute face. I give her. 6 for the house and $. 6 for herself (I like to tip upfront so there's no awkward negotiation at the flip and the girl knows what's up immediately, it's paid off many times with them giving fully nude massages or getting right to it instead of playing coy). I'll be honest, I completely forgot her name basically the moment she gave it to me, normally I'm better about that but I'm tired tonight..

[BeachGuy21]

Made a stop by RA yesterday and who do I see when I walk in? Yep, Bella. She is back after being gone for almost 4 months. She's put on some weight but her skills haven't changed one bit. Her massages actually got better too. Anyway, paid the house fee for 30 min and went back to the room. Like I said, massage was good with her teasing and me rubbing her ass and legs any chance I got. On the flip, she pulls down her skirt and puts my hand on her p* She asks what I want and I tell her I want full menu $. 2. Put on my hat and she jumped on top. After about 2 min she wants on her back. Soon as she got on her back, went to town until I was done. Laid back on table, got cleaned up and finished with head massage. It's good to have Bella back.

[StudMuffin1972]

Thanks for the lead. You were on point with the info. Everything was exactly as mentioned.

Glad to help a fellow Monger! Good info is the best thing we can provide on this board. Complete information is key!

Glad you had a great experience! .

P.S. Any Soda or Yumi Sightings Yet?