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  1. #25024

    Preach brother

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckNastee  [View Original Post]
    This is a by product of idiots that are afraid to go to other AMP. Keep going to same AMPs that are way overpriced. Then post how there experience was at these over priced locations. Post about the same location over and over. If they keep jacking the price then stop going. There are plenty that still are reasonable priced. There's a location I go to when I can't get a hold of UTR's. TS, FS covered action with a rub down 120 out the door. Been going to this location for years and its the same Asian chick. Late 30's smoking bod with decent face, silky soft Asian skin. Don't ask cause its my fall back location and knowing some of you horny bastard you will ruin the honey hole. Again if you do not like the price don't go. First time I went to BO when they first opened, it was 40 HH door fee then 100 for action, negotiated. I went back about a week ago. They straight ask for 200 at the door with no negotiation. So can't image what the tip was. I declined and went to another location. That simple. BTW most of you would have never known U-Massage and Rainbow Spa existed till I brought them up.
    This is exactly why I've stopped visiting AMPs on the regular. I try to get creative now and avoid the popular ones that everyone posts about. Sure, it's everyones own money and if they want to spend that much. Go for it. But it does indeed make it harder for others who don't see enough value in frequently dropping that dough for an hour. To each is own. But damn them. Ha.

  2. #25023

    Over priced

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanNickels  [View Original Post]
    Been in the hobby for a while. First experience was at a great little shop by Fl Mall that is now closed. Back then, $160 (80+80) got the full experience from my girl lucy or I'd visit magic in Alt. Or essence (deziah's place) where $120-$140 got my headache relieved (though no FS there). I've sat back and watched CB and BB raise the $$ stakes, followed by BO and GG. In 8 years, prices have jumped up by 50%. Now, I'm watching WB and Yuki push that $$. 40 price to $$. 60 and some of you are paying it. Just an observation, but when one market rises- others will follow. Beware of the bar you are setting by letting the little head win in the heat of negotiation. Finally, when does the value of AMPs outweigh full providers? I love table showers and a quick massage as much as the next guy- but for $$. 60. Hell I can go get a full hour of fun with a massage from the sister site and pocket $ for another day. I'd kind of like to see this AMP bubble pop, but that would take a unified front of customers unwilling to partake if AMP providers ask for more- and that isn't going to happen. Best way to cook a frog is by heating the water slowly and Orlando is incrementally getting cooked. Just my. 02- we need to find a way to manipulate this market.
    This is a by product of idiots that are afraid to go to other AMP. Keep going to same AMPs that are way overpriced. Then post how there experience was at these over priced locations. Post about the same location over and over. If they keep jacking the price then stop going. There are plenty that still are reasonable priced. There's a location I go to when I can't get a hold of UTR's. TS, FS covered action with a rub down 120 out the door. Been going to this location for years and its the same Asian chick. Late 30's smoking bod with decent face, silky soft Asian skin. Don't ask cause its my fall back location and knowing some of you horny bastard you will ruin the honey hole. Again if you do not like the price don't go. First time I went to BO when they first opened, it was 40 HH door fee then 100 for action, negotiated. I went back about a week ago. They straight ask for 200 at the door with no negotiation. So can't image what the tip was. I declined and went to another location. That simple. BTW most of you would have never known U-Massage and Rainbow Spa existed till I brought them up.

  3. #25022
    Quote Originally Posted by Jokester1  [View Original Post]
    Actually, human trafficking is rare in these public AMPs. Human trafficking usually is more undercover, frequently involving moving around using hotels and other temporary lodgings. Assuming you do know the definition of human trafficking.
    Yes, you're right apparently he doesn't know the definition of human trafficking. Every AMP that I've been to and the ladies there are usually in their 30's or so and are free to come and go as they please and do. Taking vacations, going back forth to NY, CA, etc. Or going to work other places or opening their own place. They have choices to take days off depending how much they want to make and choice on where they work knowing what services are where and how much they can earn at different spas. A lot I talk to are actually pretty intelligent and well traveled and some pretty good with business and know how to count their $$. Human trafficking is not involved and is a completely different world & animal. Which I don't think anybody here would ever be for. It is far removed from massage parlors. Like you said HT usually happens in hotels, private homes, porn industry, etc. With shady characters sometimes luring them with the premise they are going to be models with a lot of times underage females (or sometimes even males) being held against their will. A industry I would hope most of us would find disgusting and far removed from massage parlors.

    Not in the USA, human trafficking in some states is defined as "transporting a person for the purpose of commercial sex." So guys picking up SW's and taking them to their spots are technically human traffickers.

    There were two girls that crossed a state line in their private auto to work for an escort agency. They got busted, the owner of the car was charged with trafficking because she "took" a person across a state line to do sex work.

    Fucking people up there are fucking crazy.

    A2

  4. #25021

    Totally agree

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanNickels  [View Original Post]
    Been in the hobby for a while. First experience was at a great little shop by Fl Mall that is now closed. Back then, $160 (80+80) got the full experience from my girl lucy or I'd visit magic in Alt. Or essence (deziah's place) where $120-$140 got my headache relieved (though no FS there). I've sat back and watched CB and BB raise the $$ stakes, followed by BO and GG. In 8 years, prices have jumped up by 50%. Now, I'm watching WB and Yuki push that $$. 40 price to $$. 60 and some of you are paying it. Just an observation, but when one market rises- others will follow. Beware of the bar you are setting by letting the little head win in the heat of negotiation. Finally, when does the value of AMPs outweigh full providers? I love table showers and a quick massage as much as the next guy- but for $$. 60. Hell I can go get a full hour of fun with a massage from the sister site and pocket $ for another day. I'd kind of like to see this AMP bubble pop, but that would take a unified front of customers unwilling to partake if AMP providers ask for more- and that isn't going to happen. Best way to cook a frog is by heating the water slowly and Orlando is incrementally getting cooked. Just my. 02- we need to find a way to manipulate this market.
    This is of course a byproduct of our economy, unfortunately. We have more work and making a little more money. Another byproduct is we're dumber as well and not protecting our money as we should.

    We have to be smarter overall and not let them run the show. I know the have something we want but I think and hope that they want what we have even more!

    Be stronger and smarter, guys! It will be to our benefit eventually.

  5. #25020
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterTwinkies  [View Original Post]
    ...Is this the Massage Star on international or that other "Assa" place?
    International in Maitland.

  6. #25019

    Vacation

    Quote Originally Posted by LevelUp34  [View Original Post]
    Do all girls at GG vacation in the islands, or just Pandora.
    I remember one in Maryland who spent every vacation (and some long weekends) at West Virginia's Charles Town races and casino. This was before Maryland legalized casinos. Her co-workers said they could always tell if she won or lost. If she won (a minority of the time), she came back to work directly from the casino hotel, usually a couple of hours late, in a hired limo. If, as most often, she lost, she'd call the mamasan from the Baltimore bus station for a ride.

  7. #25018

    I agree

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanNickels  [View Original Post]
    Been in the hobby for a while. First experience was at a great little shop by Fl Mall that is now closed. Back then, $160 (80+80) got the full experience from my girl lucy or I'd visit magic in Alt. Or essence (deziah's place) where $120-$140 got my headache relieved (though no FS there). I've sat back and watched CB and BB raise the $$ stakes, followed by BO and GG. In 8 years, prices have jumped up by 50%. Now, I'm watching WB and Yuki push that $$. 40 price to $$. 60 and some of you are paying it. Just an observation, but when one market rises- others will follow. Beware of the bar you are setting by letting the little head win in the heat of negotiation. Finally, when does the value of AMPs outweigh full providers? I love table showers and a quick massage as much as the next guy- but for $$. 60. Hell I can go get a full hour of fun with a massage from the sister site and pocket $ for another day. I'd kind of like to see this AMP bubble pop, but that would take a unified front of customers unwilling to partake if AMP providers ask for more- and that isn't going to happen. Best way to cook a frog is by heating the water slowly and Orlando is incrementally getting cooked. Just my. 02- we need to find a way to manipulate this market.
    The prices are just nuts, for years full service has been available for half. Sure the girls are hotter there so that matters. I too miss the little place by FLorida mall. Had tons of fun there even in ththe room with the bed.

  8. #25017

    GG and Isles

    Do all girls at GG vacation in the islands, or just Pandora.

  9. #25016
    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman100  [View Original Post]
    I am also beginning to think that the Big 3 AMPs (BO, GG, WB) are like carpet baggers. Moving into an area, get quick cash no matter what, then move on when their scheme is discovered. My visit to BO was like others: it felt like I was a box at an Amazon distribution center being pushed through the process and out the door.

    I prefer independents (especially those on the sister site). I know that they can be transients as well, but at least you have someone like your favorite bartender: when you return, they know what you like. They don't give you a drink that they are trying to push.

    One way to reduce or stabilize the cost of the Big 3 is to visit independents more, and stay away from the over-priced shops. Even the services provided by reliable AMPs (like Magic) are better than what is happening at the Big 3. Since Tampa has signed an ordinance about bath houses, something like that might happen here. We need to be prepared with backups in case (or when) our Big 3 pack up the carnival and leave town.

    Be safe everyone.
    I agree, if you want an awesome experience from a independent provider, check out Mya in Kissimmee. She's about 10 minutes from the now popular Kissimmee AMP. Better massage and FS for $160.

  10. #25015

    Carpet Baggers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rudiger  [View Original Post]
    I don't get it, either. The rates here are higher than freaking Honolulu. I sure miss the old days of Warren, Ohio (not far from the Lordstown GM plant). A good half dozen AMPs, with total not more than $. 60 at any of them for a wide-open menu with beautiful attendants (but all legal age) at every single one. Hell, there was even one that was open 24/7. Then, about 10 years ago, the feds moved in with their human trafficking bullshit and shut them all down. It was actually the final phase of a coordinated, multi-year sweep which wiped-out every single AMP in the entire midwest.
    I am also beginning to think that the Big 3 AMPs (BO, GG, WB) are like carpet baggers. Moving into an area, get quick cash no matter what, then move on when their scheme is discovered. My visit to BO was like others: it felt like I was a box at an Amazon distribution center being pushed through the process and out the door.

    I prefer independents (especially those on the sister site). I know that they can be transients as well, but at least you have someone like your favorite bartender: when you return, they know what you like. They don't give you a drink that they are trying to push.

    One way to reduce or stabilize the cost of the Big 3 is to visit independents more, and stay away from the over-priced shops. Even the services provided by reliable AMPs (like Magic) are better than what is happening at the Big 3. Since Tampa has signed an ordinance about bath houses, something like that might happen here. We need to be prepared with backups in case (or when) our Big 3 pack up the carnival and leave town.

    Be safe everyone.

  11. #25014
    Senior Member


    Posts: 243

    Wb

    Quote Originally Posted by HotLuck54  [View Original Post]
    Fronts JYP. You can park around back and walk around front to be more discrete.

    Positive: Awesome to have a playground South of the O.

    Not So Positive: Arrived around 1 pm. Busy. Spent 5 minutes in the side storage closet. Was told 3 steady and 1 part-timer when things are busy. Said nighttime is slower. I'm thinking nighttime has to be better service. Because. I drew Yuki. I had the pleasure of meeting her in the past at other nefarious venues and have enjoyed her many talents. This dream was so mechanical as to deny any Seed Sowing. Yuki has got to be bumping 40, lubed both holes (dripping) prior to my session, tits hard and. Well, just saying BO is still the Team to Beat. To her effort, she did work me over front and back but there was no sex appeal, no fantasy. I get that shite at home. For 240, I expect better. She was sweet, accommodating but jamming a tongue in my mouth does not equal arousal. No tease to please, no heat, no tension. Just NEXT!

    Guess I'm spoiled by younger talent further North of Town. Give Jully at BO a try. At the upper end of 20's but brings sexual heat, desire and some nasty to the game. Sure it's all fake but delivery of a believable service stands out. Slow down, touch, tease, stroke softly. Then TUMA, Rape me, Bring the Heat.

    Need to get the Cock Count down and lessen the overall Assembly Line feel. To each their own. Won't repeat.
    I occasionally make the drive to Orlando to visit the AMPs because they offer services not typically available at our local Tampa Bay locations. Thought I'd try WB since the reviews were decent and I thought it might save me some drive time to GG or BO. Maybe 10 minutes on a Saturday morning? My visit was with Amber and while she was cute, she wasn't really that special in the looks department. Had a complete and thorough table shower and then off to the room. Actually started with a brief massage and then on to the main event. Amber was willing and we explored just about all the options, but despite leaving the session drained and satisfied, I didn't feel the electric connection that I've had at the aforementioned establishments. Ambers English skills were limited and conversation involving anything other than doing the deed were difficult. I was introduced to two other girls on the way out (I've never met Yuki, and have no idea what she looks like), but neither of them inspired me to rush back. IMHO if this was the only act in town I'd be a regular, but you guys are lucky to have so many other good or better options.

  12. #25013
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1092
    Quote Originally Posted by NaughtyBoy1  [View Original Post]
    It's better if we mongers slow down visiting this place. No matter what we write or read here Mongers are ready to pay ridiculous at these AMPs.

    NB1.
    I don't get it, either. The rates here are higher than freaking Honolulu. I sure miss the old days of Warren, Ohio (not far from the Lordstown GM plant). A good half dozen AMPs, with total not more than $. 60 at any of them for a wide-open menu with beautiful attendants (but all legal age) at every single one. Hell, there was even one that was open 24/7. Then, about 10 years ago, the feds moved in with their human trafficking bullshit and shut them all down. It was actually the final phase of a coordinated, multi-year sweep which wiped-out every single AMP in the entire midwest.

  13. #25012
    It's better if we mongers slow down visiting this place. No matter what we write or read here Mongers are ready to pay ridiculous at these AMPs.

    NB1.

    Quote Originally Posted by HotLuck54  [View Original Post]
    Fronts JYP. You can park around back and walk around front to be more discrete.

    Positive: Awesome to have a playground South of the O.

    Not So Positive: Arrived around 1 pm. Busy. Spent 5 minutes in the side storage closet. Was told 3 steady and 1 part-timer when things are busy. Said nighttime is slower. I'm thinking nighttime has to be better service. Because. I drew Yuki. I had the pleasure of meeting her in the past at other nefarious venues and have enjoyed her many talents. This dream was so mechanical as to deny any Seed Sowing. Yuki has got to be bumping 40, lubed both holes (dripping) prior to my session, tits hard and. Well, just saying BO is still the Team to Beat. To her effort, she did work me over front and back but there was no sex appeal, no fantasy. I get that shite at home. For 240, I expect better. She was sweet, accommodating but jamming a tongue in my mouth does not equal arousal. No tease to please, no heat, no tension. Just NEXT!

    Guess I'm spoiled by younger talent further North of Town. Give Jully at BO a try. At the upper end of 20's but brings sexual heat, desire and some nasty to the game. Sure it's all fake but delivery of a believable service stands out. Slow down, touch, tease, stroke softly. Then TUMA, Rape me, Bring the Heat.

    Need to get the Cock Count down and lessen the overall Assembly Line feel. To each their own. Won't repeat.

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  15. #25010

    Kiko

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectAss  [View Original Post]
    Do you have links for MicheLe or Kiki?
    Kiki is not associated with an AMP but is a top notch provider. You can find her on the Tampa sister site.

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