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[CityGuy1]

Any location, especially a supposed private residence that has 1, yet alone up to three providers will 100% eventually track uncle's attention. The sheer foot traffic parking. Littering issues you name it. Toss in the support staff and hangers on. You are easily talking 100 to300 people at the spot in month. Throw in a few actual customers who feel they got a bad shake and a couple of trolls (me) who has crime stoppers and the right numbers at the city and county to dial it just seems like a bad deal. While I will be the first to agree some girls set up camp at a no tell for months it doesn't attract the same attention because the fellow residents are there for such a short time or benefit from the activities by supplying girls with candy. Breaking into cars or jacking mongers. Even if uncle can't or won't bust up the spot, they will post up near and suddenly develop a zero tolerance policy for traffic enforcement. While they can't make you stop going to see your flame at target location, they can and will make it expensive. I am not discouraging anyone to see or not see any provider, I do want you to measure the very real and potential risk. Stay safe and think.

None of that applies to her situation. Or the ladies who all live in their own residence except for PB. Easily the safest, most private incall I've ever visited.

[CoolPanther]

So I've been around the proverbial monger's block and I've seen a thing or three and really think it comes down to how the agreed upon relationship is established.

If submissive person A becomes the controlled subject of dominant person B then clearly there is an unfair power play going on. But sometimes the "laws" of the jungle dictate that one must have protection in place in order to receive compensation. We all agree that those types of hierchical system rarely work out well for everyone involved based on ownership.

Therefore the eventual realization is pimplitude is wrong.

But what if a trust system is based on mutually assured protection?

What if escort A (submissive or dominant) looks out for escort B (also sub or dom) ? Either escort compensates the other for time spent watching out for the other as well as references to assist each other in directing their clients to their preferred companions. None dominates the other, and they are both free to come and go as they please.

Neither pimp nor handler they be!

I have met some of my closest and most amazing friends thanks to references by the primary escort. My first anal experience occurred because provider A changed her mind because she thought I was too big, so she referred me to one of the most amazing little spinners ever encountered in my life who also became a good friend. Sexy and very good.

I have had experiences where I had to spend a date with escort A to even be allowed to play with her friends. Worth it because she is a verified porn star and her friends are too, just not publically. Many many many videos were made at no extra cost just because we were all into that.

I had an encounter where Escort A messages me well before our agreed upon meetup time and explains that her friend is there (escort B) and is willing to either join in or chill in a closed room upon meeting me. She explained they look out for each other. It was ok with me seeing how this was a young provider (20) and as long as she wasn't shifty. I arrived, recognized her from her ads and let her know I only brought enough for one escort, one dream, but if she wanted to hang out it would definitely turn me on. She winked and left. Escort B let us get acquainted and then returned while Escort A was knee deep into a BBBJ with me just grinning. Escort B pulled out her magic wand, pulled off her panties, sat in a easy chair across from us, started masterbating and proceeded to watch the show. Turned me on so much I turned into a performer for her. Escort A had the best encounter of her career and I turned on 2 girls! Needless to say, a return trip to play with Escort B definitely happened. Two friends made because I was ok with their situation.

I had a massage encounter where the madam of the house weclomed me in, introduced me to my desired masseuse, then unclothed me for her, helped me onto the massage table, started a BBBJ and then looked up at me and then her and said this one will be fun,. You kids have fun. Thus giving her the ok to get to work. I returned to her massage parlor once a week for 2 years.

I've met a provider who let me know she has a man friend who I have to meet to allow me to enjoy her company. We met at a bar and he explained he also escorts so they really were both working. He paid for my drink! He even offered a doubles session at a reduced rate, but it's not really my thing, which was ok with him, but his ok gave me the reassurance that she was now relaxed and ready to attack me with energy. What a night! And then we returned to the bar for more drinks! More new friends made!

I'm not just rambling on past memories, well I was for a moment, I'm also trying to clarify all this absurd talk of pimps and improper behavior bs by wonder women like Lollipop. She's not in the wrong. It's the right way to do this. It's already a non-allowed activity, so one may as well look out for one another and if there's a kickback involved, why not?

As for actual pimps, yes they do exist, but usually they follow the same negative pattern and those of us who do care about the hobby don't patronize them, thus making for poor profit.

Just mah 2 cents.

Great insight Johnny and thanks so much for sharing with us. I agree that relationship building has and will open many doors and unlimited opportunities beyond our wildest dreams. As you mention this may not happen with all individuals we come (pun not intended) across but all it takes is just one special encounter at the right time.

[LoveTheBeaver]

I am going to present you with a reason why the providers would choose to employ her, she's definitely working for them. First let's look at her age. I met her in early 90's at the club in Sptng. Even then she had a good idea of her goals. At this point she may be looking at retirement. Not many ladies stay in the game this long. She's definitely no "pimp" or "handler". Let's look at what I'd call her resume and see why she would help the UTRs achieve their goals.

1. Dancer.

2. Door.

3. House mom.

4. Poker girl.

5. Manager of S&M club.

6. SB.

7. UTR top tier escort agency.

8. UTR independent escort.

9. Public Escort.

I think that uniquely qualifiers her to book and screen appointments for any provider who wants to build a clientele, remain UTR, or have her in the location with them. She screens for a certain type of provider, clean, demon free, usually college educated.

I remember some years back when Sophie Knight was scheduling and setting appointments for two providers before she fired one for allowing her nose candy to get in the way of doing her job. Lolly is doing the same, if not more, of the same thing and I am very comfortable with that. Dealing with any provider for the first time has a certain amount of anxiety mixed in as we don't know if she is truly independent or not, who could be hanging around with God only knows what intentions and is the car safe parked where it is? If I set up something with she I would not have the slightest reservation about how well things would go. I hasten to add that I have never had the pleasure of meeting Lolly but her reputation on this forum is enough for me to trust her explicitly but that's just my two cents.

LtB.

[JohnnyCarsin]

So I've been around the proverbial monger's block and I've seen a thing or three and really think it comes down to how the agreed upon relationship is established.

If submissive person A becomes the controlled subject of dominant person B then clearly there is an unfair power play going on. But sometimes the "laws" of the jungle dictate that one must have protection in place in order to receive compensation. We all agree that those types of hierchical system rarely work out well for everyone involved based on ownership.

Therefore the eventual realization is pimplitude is wrong.

But what if a trust system is based on mutually assured protection?

What if escort A (submissive or dominant) looks out for escort B (also sub or dom) ? Either escort compensates the other for time spent watching out for the other as well as references to assist each other in directing their clients to their preferred companions. None dominates the other, and they are both free to come and go as they please.

Neither pimp nor handler they be!

I have met some of my closest and most amazing friends thanks to references by the primary escort. My first anal experience occurred because provider A changed her mind because she thought I was too big, so she referred me to one of the most amazing little spinners ever encountered in my life who also became a good friend. Sexy and very good.

I have had experiences where I had to spend a date with escort A to even be allowed to play with her friends. Worth it because she is a verified porn star and her friends are too, just not publically. Many many many videos were made at no extra cost just because we were all into that.

I had an encounter where Escort A messages me well before our agreed upon meetup time and explains that her friend is there (escort B) and is willing to either join in or chill in a closed room upon meeting me. She explained they look out for each other. It was ok with me seeing how this was a young provider (20) and as long as she wasn't shifty. I arrived, recognized her from her ads and let her know I only brought enough for one escort, one dream, but if she wanted to hang out it would definitely turn me on. She winked and left. Escort B let us get acquainted and then returned while Escort A was knee deep into a BBBJ with me just grinning. Escort B pulled out her magic wand, pulled off her panties, sat in a easy chair across from us, started masterbating and proceeded to watch the show. Turned me on so much I turned into a performer for her. Escort A had the best encounter of her career and I turned on 2 girls! Needless to say, a return trip to play with Escort B definitely happened. Two friends made because I was ok with their situation.

I had a massage encounter where the madam of the house weclomed me in, introduced me to my desired masseuse, then unclothed me for her, helped me onto the massage table, started a BBBJ and then looked up at me and then her and said this one will be fun,. You kids have fun. Thus giving her the ok to get to work. I returned to her massage parlor once a week for 2 years.

I've met a provider who let me know she has a man friend who I have to meet to allow me to enjoy her company. We met at a bar and he explained he also escorts so they really were both working. He paid for my drink! He even offered a doubles session at a reduced rate, but it's not really my thing, which was ok with him, but his ok gave me the reassurance that she was now relaxed and ready to attack me with energy. What a night! And then we returned to the bar for more drinks! More new friends made!

I'm not just rambling on past memories, well I was for a moment, I'm also trying to clarify all this absurd talk of pimps and improper behavior bs by wonder women like Lollipop. She's not in the wrong. It's the right way to do this. It's already a non-allowed activity, so one may as well look out for one another and if there's a kickback involved, why not?

As for actual pimps, yes they do exist, but usually they follow the same negative pattern and those of us who do care about the hobby don't patronize them, thus making for poor profit.

Just mah 2 cents.

[Confused 1966]

Men are usually more dangerous and threatening than women. If you can't see the difference between an armed thug in the parking lot of the EconoTravel Inn who rules through fear and an educated woman who is helping friends make money in a safe environment without that threat, than I hope my post has made it more clear.

The words pimp and madame have completely different connotations, and Zouriel states the reason for that.

[LobsterMan1]

Boyfriends. Handlers. Pimps are supposedly bad. But lolli can have upwards of three girls working at her place and that is great (She's not a pimp she's a " host" she's not a " handler" she's a roommate. Clearly she's not getting a cut of what the girl makes (wink wink) but that makes it ok. So a dude lurking in the hotel parking lot makes a vast majority of mongers hesitant or avoid. But pimp mamma just a few feet down the hall or in the kitchen is great. I understand most girls have a support system. But I am confused on why some support system is frowned upon. While another is embraced.

I am going to present you with a reason why the providers would choose to employ her, she's definitely working for them. First let's look at her age. I met her in early 90's at the club in Sptng. Even then she had a good idea of her goals. At this point she may be looking at retirement. Not many ladies stay in the game this long. She's definitely no "pimp" or "handler". Let's look at what I'd call her resume and see why she would help the UTRs achieve their goals.

1. Dancer.

2. Door.

3. House mom.

4. Poker girl.

5. Manager of S&M club.

6. SB.

7. UTR top tier escort agency.

8. UTR independent escort.

9. Public Escort.

I think that uniquely qualifiers her to book and screen appointments for any provider who wants to build a clientele, remain UTR, or have her in the location with them. She screens for a certain type of provider, clean, demon free, usually college educated. As for Mommi and PB they are not from large cities and are calm country girls, sweet. I can see why they choose to work out of her location exclusively. I would definitely say she helps them and is no "handler". In fact I don't think anyone could handle Cake Pop, not even Angela back in the day. Put all that out of your mind when thinking about her. Her connections must be incredible and her knowledge is probably unparalleled in this area.

[Zauriel]

Men are usually more dangerous and threatening than women. If you can't see the difference between an armed thug in the parking lot of the EconoTravel Inn who rules through fear and an educated woman who is helping friends make money in a safe environment without that threat, than I hope my post has made it more clear.

Boyfriends. Handlers. Pimps are supposedly bad. But lolli can have upwards of three girls working at her place and that is great (She's not a pimp she's a " host" she's not a " handler" she's a roommate. Clearly she's not getting a cut of what the girl makes (wink wink) but that makes it ok. So a dude lurking in the hotel parking lot makes a vast majority of mongers hesitant or avoid. But pimp mamma just a few feet down the hall or in the kitchen is great. I understand most girls have a support system. But I am confused on why some support system is frowned upon. While another is embraced.

[CityGuy1]

Boyfriends. Handlers. Pimps are supposedly bad. But lolli can have upwards of three girls working at her place and that is great (She's not a pimp she's a " host" she's not a " handler" she's a roommate. Clearly she's not getting a cut of what the girl makes (wink wink) but that makes it ok. So a dude lurking in the hotel parking lot makes a vast majority of mongers hesitant or avoid. But pimp mamma just a few feet down the hall or in the kitchen is great. I understand most girls have a support system. But I am confused on why some support system is frowned upon. While another is embraced.

She's a secretary not a "handler". As for being in the kitchen or living room absolutely not. The home is not set up to have chairs in either area. I have never seen her at anyone else's home when I visited. She answers the phone and does the booking and screening. The difference between the situations you described and this one are far far apart.

[TomWjfk]

Any location, especially a supposed private residence that has 1, yet alone up to three providers will 100% eventually track uncle's attention. The sheer foot traffic parking. Littering issues you name it. Toss in the support staff and hangers on. You are easily talking 100 to300 people at the spot in month. Throw in a few actual customers who feel they got a bad shake and a couple of trolls (me) who has crime stoppers and the right numbers at the city and county to dial it just seems like a bad deal. While I will be the first to agree some girls set up camp at a no tell for months it doesn't attract the same attention because the fellow residents are there for such a short time or benefit from the activities by supplying girls with candy. Breaking into cars or jacking mongers. Even if uncle can't or won't bust up the spot, they will post up near and suddenly develop a zero tolerance policy for traffic enforcement. While they can't make you stop going to see your flame at target location, they can and will make it expensive. I am not discouraging anyone to see or not see any provider, I do want you to measure the very real and potential risk. Stay safe and think.

[LollyDoll]

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[TomWjfk]

Boyfriends. Handlers. Pimps are supposedly bad. But lolli can have upwards of three girls working at her place and that is great (She's not a pimp she's a " host" she's not a " handler" she's a roommate. Clearly she's not getting a cut of what the girl makes (wink wink) but that makes it ok. So a dude lurking in the hotel parking lot makes a vast majority of mongers hesitant or avoid. But pimp mamma just a few feet down the hall or in the kitchen is great. I understand most girls have a support system. But I am confused on why some support system is frowned upon. While another is embraced.

[TwoShots]

Its still there, if its the same one I am thinking of, 12 rooms in a row, w trailer for office. Open daytime, don't; t think they open at night and on Sunday. Raised to $38 and it gets busy sometimes. It is primitive but very clean and quiet.

Go down North Pleasantburg make a right on Ruthford rd go over bridge make 1st left go maybe 1/8 mile you will see a park on the right and on your left will see a drive way that goes in the woods you will see the rooms there. Now I was last there pre covid it was $35 for the hour or 2. Rooms are not in the best of shape but they are clean. Hope this helps.

Guys,

I appreciate it. Tried to follow using Google maps but I can't find it. Any landmarks close by so I know I'm in the correct left turn off Rutherford rd? PM is fine, thanks for the help.

[Boytar]

Its still there, if its the same one I am thinking of, 12 rooms in a row, w trailer for office. Open daytime, don't; t think they open at night and on Sunday. Raised to $38 and it gets busy sometimes. It is primitive but very clean and quiet.

Go down North Pleasantburg make a right on Ruthford rd go over bridge make 1st left go maybe 1/8 mile you will see a park on the right and on your left will see a drive way that goes in the woods you will see the rooms there. Now I was last there pre covid it was $35 for the hour or 2. Rooms are not in the best of shape but they are clean. Hope this helps.