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  1. #1004

    A question about nsoco.org

    Sites like shagsafely.com that ask for a cc# but say they won't charge sound like scams, but I don't know what the scam could be, and if they do what they say, it doesn't seem like a bad deal. Does anyone have information on these sites?

  2. #1003

    Street mongering.

    Is so freaking easy.

    Drive down cicero. If you see the girl give her a look and nod towards a side street she can casually meet you on. If she won't get it she is a cop. Do no discuss any business while she is outside.

    If she gets in. Not a cop.

    It is simple. Always keep your eyes open and scan the area for ANYONE who is jsut sitting in the car.

  3. #1002
    Quote Originally Posted by PittPanther
    That being said, I admire you guys that have the cojones to monger on the streets. I wish I was built that way, cause it would save me a s**tload of money. I do agree that some of the girls I have met on an incall situation would have fit perfectly out on the streets at 1/10 the price. But that increased price I am willing to pay, for the convenience of NOT having to drive the streets.
    Thanks for the compliments, Pitt. I have no arguments with the way you monger. The landscape is what it is. Pre-internet days, I used The Reader to find a number of gems. It just seems that providers on CL are a lot less trustworthy. Perhaps it's just a volume thing.

    What I'm lamenting is the lack of action on the streets. There's a market out there. Guys like me who like to find action; to give and get the look, to make the pickup, to find a secluded spot. It surprises me that NO ONE is out there doing business. A reasonably attractive girl (who doesn't have to dress trashy, casual is fine) should do great if she knows how to make eye contact and be discrete. Even the number of beasts isn't what I expect it to be. It's not Uncle Leo that's keeping it quiet. I have no idea why it's as quiet as it is.

  4. #1001
    Quote Originally Posted by F Blaster
    Crack permanently altered the SW landscape...

    CL also changed the landscape, but in a different fashion. SWs could charge higher prices without having to work the streets anymore.
    FB, nice analysis. Crack definitely lowered the quality, but the other thing to keep in mind is that the Internet (not just CL) increased Demand.

    Hear me out. Back in the pre-internet days, all we had were the streets, and newspapers like the Reader (Boston Phoenix, Creative Loafing in Atlanta, etc). There are a TON of guys like me who would NEVER hit the streets. If it weren't for the 'net, I wouldn't monger, period. The 'net allowed a proliferation of guys like me to get in the game. We can basically "shop at home." And with that flexibility comes a cost - increased prices. That's a price I'm willing to pay, because the alternative (streets only) is not an option.

    That being said, I admire you guys that have the cojones to monger on the streets. I wish I was built that way, cause it would save me a s**tload of money. I do agree that some of the girls I have met on an incall situation would have fit perfectly out on the streets at 1/10 the price. But that increased price I am willing to pay, for the convenience of NOT having to drive the streets.

  5. #1000

    You missed my point

    Quote Originally Posted by Enderwiggen
    The good old days can come back so long as everyone makes a conscious effort.
    No, they can't. What I was talking about was the Lincoln Ave. scene back in the late '80s/early 90's. When beautiful SWs were always around somewhere.

    Crack permanently altered the SW landscape, even more than HIV/AIDS. Drugs were never a problem before (I'm not naive enough to believe they weren't a factor), but the proliferation of crack changed all that. Pretty girls who were (relatively) clean got hooked and their looks deteriorated rapidly. You know what I mean. Soon, most of the girls out had the crack ***** face, as if they were hit flush with a sledgehammer.

    CL also changed the landscape, but in a different fashion. SWs could charge higher prices without having to work the streets anymore. Great for them, not so great for us. Whenever I've used CL to try and satisfy my urges, I've always been burned, with the exceptions of the Asian apartments and AMPs. Never again.

    Using a CL provider takes away the most important thing from a monger, imo. Control. I want to be in control of the situation as much as possible; drive to a spot of MY choosing, going to a motel that I'M comfortable with. With CL providers, you have virtually no control. You're going to a place of THEIR choosing that you aren't familiar with. Plus you don't know who else is lurking around. No thanks.

    I would think that with the economy in the state it's in, that we would have seen an increase in quantity AND quality of SWs in the last few months. Instead, the north side has been bone dry. All the action seems to be in the 47th/S. Cicero/Midway areas, and drugs seem to be a huge issue with those girls.

    The old days are gone, and they ain't coming back. I've accepted it, but it doesn't mean that I have to like it.

  6. #999

    Dude..

    Always with a happy ending, but this time I got something completely unexpected: BBBJ, no spit.

    May?

    Jenni? Who the fuck?

  7. #998
    Quote Originally Posted by F Blaster
    If I had known the scene was going to detiorate into what it is today, I would have dated her a LOT more often.
    The scene is deteriorating today because men are willing to pay. If you negotiate the prices always fall, but so many men don't know how to think with the correct head.

    I mean dude, some of these CL girls shoulld be charging SW prices FOR OUTCALL DELIVERY!

    But there is always some idiot than when a mangled crack ho shows up, and looks nothing liek their pic, he will still give 1. 5 for a half an hour (15 minutes.) of skank.

    We need unity.

    If the market is stabilized both parties make more money. Men wouldn't call girls then cancel for fear of buyers remorse if you knew you were going to get pizza service. (Even if she wasnt all that great it was still ok, because you didn't spend alot and it waaaaaaaaaas pizza.)

    I've had several convos with girls who are always complaning about guys standing them up, and not making much money. I was like BE MORE PROFESSIONAL, don't lie about how long it will take you to get there or how you look. And have reasonable rates.

    I've had 10+ service from girls who didn't even ask for anywhere near what they should have, and.34345984 from ones that didn't even deserve to be called.

    The good old days can come back so long as everyone makes a conscious effort.

    EXAMPLE:

    We pick one SW who is charging way too much on CL, And all call her the same night and give her maybes, and some of us complain about her prices. Eventually. She will think "OMG I am not gonna get ANY business I better take whatever. " Prices. Down.

    She wouldn't be able to distinguish between us, and those desperate motherfuckers.

    It's a pretty solid plan.

    PROBLEM: Their is always some pathetic dde who "weeealy weeeally likes da girl, who takes his money and just won't fall for him, " SO he would see what we are doing and message the girl saying "I weally like you, those guys jsut want your pwices to be fair. "

    And he would warn her.

    So if anyone were crazy enough for this old italian's plan, then We should try it, as an experiment, only via PM, as eyes are always watching, and cowardly men without backbones, would love to make themselves feel important by snitching to some skank.

    NOW!

    A couple of weeks ago I went to senina, and on my way up stairs with Jenni, I noticed to Mongers sitting in the chair watching tv. One young, one old. The young one was saying, "You ever go to. " And you both froz when you saw me.

    Both blond, pr dirty blond hair. Tell me what I looked like and I will give you a high 5.

  8. #997

    Not fake

    Quote Originally Posted by Enderwiggen
    OldAndInTheWay,

    Just stop. I've never seen a more fake obvious attempt in my life.

    /rant
    This was real at one point. I was told by a fellow monger that cristal (with an I), stole from jimmyjamesx, but he fucked up and found the phone in his car a couple of days later. Pardon me for believing a fellow monger.

  9. #996

    Hmmmmmm

    I remember two girls the most. One was a bleach blonde (platinum; almost white) with short, spiked hair who looked like Annie Lennox and liked to wear dark green tops. She told me she also worked around Clark and Touhy. I believe she lived around there as I dropped her off there once. Great body.

    The other was this tall (5'9"+) buxom brunette who was out almost every night. She looked like a taller, curvier Katy Perry. Great dresser. Seemed to enjoy what she was doing. After awhile, she started charging more than I was willing to pay. If I had known the scene was going to detiorate into what it is today, I would have dated her a LOT more often.

  10. #995

    Hotels

    The Riverside was hands down the nastiest..lol..
    The Rio was pretty nice for privacy. I agree the girls were at least 7 and up. Many looked like average high schoolers.
    And yes the Patio had a very creepy vibe to it. Kind of out of the way.
    Anyone remember any of the girls ? There was always at least 6-9 of them out any given night in the late 80's early 90's.

  11. #994

    Ah, the good old days!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Lady1234
    Memories!!! Wow! A lot of those hotels have bitten the dust. I've done stuff in every one of them, and some that weren't even listed. My favorite place was the Spa. It was also the favorite of a lot of bands that were touring. If they played one of the smaller venues in town (Metro, Riviera, e.g.), chances are they stayed at the Spa. I don't like the Patio, even though it's a great setup. Just never got good vibes there.

    A police station is where the Spa used to be, a library is where the Acres was, a park fountain is where the Riverside was, the Lincoln Motel (unsure of the name, on the NW corner of Lincoln and Sacramento) and the Stars have been torn down, the Tip Top is now called River Park Motel.

    When you think about it, it's pretty amazing that so many of them are still in business. Especially now that SW activity is almost non-existent. The Riverside parking lot and in front of the Rio were the two best spots in the area to find action. Plus the SWs were good looking; 7s at worst. Not like today, where if you find a 5, you've got a keeper.

  12. #993

    Lincoln motels

    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Lady1234
    During the 1995 extreme heat wave I lived in the second story of a two flat not far away from Lincoln Ave. The power was out in our neighborhood and it was unbearable to be inside. I called a couple of friends around 9 p.m. but couldn't find anywhere cool to spend the night.

    The power and air conditioning were still on in the Lincoln Ave. motels, so I stopped at three to see if they had a room. All were booked up. At the Patio, there were several cars lined up with what looked like streetwalkers waiting while their "dates" tried to locate rooms. In one, a young woman sat with her arms crossed and looking pissed off while her date tried to find a place where they could complete their business. He probably never did, because the rooms were taken by refugees from the heat wave and power failure.

  13. #992
    I am not ashamed to say that I have been in every single one of those motels. Even the ones that have been torn down. Poor old Lincoln ave...used to be one hell of a strip.

  14. #991
    Quote Originally Posted by Ms Lady1234
    But, of course. I was on a legitimate date and wound up at the Spa. Alcohol does funny things, what can I say? The cleaning lady was cleaning the room when we walked in, apparently she was tidying up due to someone needing the room for a short time prior to our arrival.

    The cleaning lady told us that we didn't need to be shy around her since she'd seen all sorts of things. Quite alright. We waited until she left to get busy. Mirrored ceiling and porn, what a place.

    More recently, I used the Apache as my meeting place with an old friend from 34. Free porn and strategically placed mirrors, depending on the room. Not the most romantic, but I don't expect much from Lincoln Ave.

    On an entirely different subject, I'm sworn to secrecy, so I'm not allowed to share a name, sorry, but I thought I'd share the story. I went for an indy massage last week and mama mia. I'd seen the girl several times before, always with a happy ending, but this time I got something completely unexpected: BBBJ, no spit.

  15. #990
    Quote Originally Posted by Fourknick8
    Long time lurker, new member/poster. Wanted to add a CL TOFTT experience that wasn't great, but I didnt get arrested, the pic of the girl was accurate, and I got decent (if not great) value.

    The girl's name is Ilana and she posts on CL regularly, usually late at night (that is generally when I am looking for a piece of ass too). Her latest post is:

    http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ers/1055130169.html

    Others are:

    http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ers/1055007628.html

    http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/ers/1052293054.html

    Since these links die fast (although hers less so than others), I've also posted a couple of her CL pics to this post.

    Short story is this girl is a true independent, the number is her cell phone and she did outcall to downtown within an hour, might have even been 45 minutes.

    She is definitely the girl in the picture, which is good. Id give her about a 7 overall. Her body is also free of any major defects or surprises (e.g. terrible stretch marks, ungodly tatoos, etc.). In sum, reasonably slim, reasonably attractive girl. Pretty tall too.

    Covered BJ and basic positions. Not terribly passionate on any level but she gets the job done. I paid 250 for the hour but bet you can get it cheaper. Her ads almost never specify a price -- big clue she is willing to negotiate.

    She is definitely interested in leaving as soon as you cum, but I guess that is to be expected for your typical CL girl.

    Not GFE at all, but a quick to arrive spur of the moment type girl, above average looks wise, no bait and switch, and, in general, a good jizz catcher for the money. Overall, a B to B- grade, A- if you consider her solely in the world of CL ******, which is full of scams, skanks, etc.
    Good post I guess but why would you pay 250 for not GFE, you have to know how to feel the situation out.

    I have a trick that can always get you GFE.

    ALWAYS when you are trying out for the first time, tell the girl you are looking for a regular girl, and ask he to quote you on an all night price for the next day.

    She will get excited at the prospect of more money. And give you her A game.

    Then the next time you invite her over, if she give anything less then drop her.

    Giselle is prolly the best thing CL has to offer in regards to enjoying her work and giving good service.

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