General Reports

[Jannisary]

I was driving around Brooklyn the other day and came across a massage parlor, S&L Rub (? ). Has anyone been there? If so, how is the service?

Its been quite a while since I've seen a review of S&L and I've never been there myself. The reason I've never gone is because the reviews have all been negative. Basically the want you to pay escort prices $$$ or more for sw material. Anyone have any recent experience? The same people own another spa, the HWY157 Spa, I believe by Centreville.

[Mister Quick]

I was in an unfamiliar city about a year and a half ago. I had picked up a bunch of free newspapers at a adult book store that I had on the front seat. Got stopped in the towns stroll area by a cop. He started talking to me asking me why I was there etc. Told him washoping to get to my hotel. He saw the top newspaper and asked me if it was mine. I said yes, kind of hard to deny. He then gave me directions and told me to beon my way. Did not cruise anymore. when I got to my hotel started going through the freebies noticed the one that was on the top was the local Gay / Fag paper. Guesss it saved me some trouble.

Sometimes I find it is actually helpful to have out of state plates. I've only been stopped once and I was prepared with a plan where it really helps to be from out of town. Before I cruise a known stroll I make sure to write out directions or even print a map that clearly shows a path through the stroll area. I get a valid reason for being at the start and end points, and then I have an excuse for why I am in between. If they catch me driving in circles, it isn't hard to pretend to be lost, to be mixed up, bad sense of direction.

"Hi officer, I am so lost. Hope you can help. I was coming from my hotel in Fairview Heights, headed to, what was the name... Brooklyn? I'm supposed to meet a friend/business contact at a, hehe, club there. (embarrassed).

"Well, see, I got off I-64 on highway 3 and turned right like it says, but that became Collinsville Road and my map says it should be St. Clair. So I turned around and came back. I crossed that bridge over the highway and made the right turn but then I saw Second street, then First street, so I figured I missed Third street (like I confused 3rd street with highway 3). So I turned around and went to First street and over to Third street, but that didn't go anywhere. I got a bit lost and ended up back where I got off the highway on 9th street..."

Every couple of laps I actually drive up to Brooklyn, wait a few minutes, and start the loop in reverse. "See, I was supposed to meet a friend at PTs and he just called and said he couldn't make it, so I was headed back to my hotel..."

Attached is a map of my typical ESL circuit. If I am stopped at most any point I have a pretty good explanation for how I got lost here.

In some cities with more straightforward strolls (OBT in Orlando, S. Robinson in OKC, Broadway in Wichita) I just need to have a valid reason for being out late at night. My favorite is "I just got into town and I have a presentation at ___ early in the morning. I wanted to make sure that I knew how to get there tomorrow so I am not late." Then I have the address of a hotel near one end of the strip and a business location at the other.

It helps to play stupid. I'm just a Kansas hick confused by all them cars and buildings and city lights.

[Knucklebuck]

Did anyone see a few posts from some gal saying she'd be in Brooklyn looking for guys to show up for free bj's? No numbers only an IM address but a bot wouldn't include something specific as a place in Brooklyn and a time?

I can't find the post where she said 3pm at the bookstore(?) but here are a couple others:

http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ers/496338052.html
~~~>>>ATTENTION to THOSE guys WANTING TO MEET me in BROOKLYN!!!<<
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Reply to: pers-496338052@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-12-02, 12:30PM CST

HEY GUYS!!!
YOU WILL ALL havE TO start IM ing on yahoo at screenname: hottmouthgirl2001...
EMAIL WON'T LET ME REPSOND BACK TO YOU GUYS... Still going to be in Brooklyn at 3pm TODAY ONLY & PLEASE BE CLEAN!!!DRUG AND DISEASE FREE AND MAKE SURE YOU TAKE A BATH. NO ODORS PLEASE!!! TY
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and the other:
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ers/496608874.html
HEY gUyS!! I'm WANTING U....... - w4m
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Reply to: pers-496608874@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-12-02, 5:20PM CST

.......... for your loads!!!! I am VERY serious and real!!! OH, yes I was looking last night too. Thank you to the few that DID show up... I'm wanting to GIVE h***... YES! FOR FREE!!! SO, YOU CAN COME OVER RIGHT NOW!! IM me on yahoo messenger. screen name: hottmouthgirl2001. PLEASE dont email, ahving trouble with it! BUT messenger IS WORKING!!!! PLEASE BE D/D FREE AND BATHE BEFORE COMING OVER TOO!!!! TY
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...and her yahoo profile: http://profiles.yahoo.com/hottmouthgirl2001

[Seek9999]

This is not the "Gena" I saw.

Seek9999 & Chiapet9

I believe that the girl you saw was recently released from prison.

Visit the idoc web site at:

http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsecti...ch/default.asp

Search by IDOC# and try K94186.

I decided not to post the name and picture here just in case it's not the same girl.

[Maleforfunstl]

I was driving around Brooklyn the other day and came across a massage parlor, S&L Rub (? ). Has anyone been there? If so, how is the service?

[Kemo Sabe]

Roscoe2,

I noticed that the story didn't say why the driver was stopped by the police in the first place. It appears that the car was stopped quite a bit later after picking up the woman who we suspect was a SW. My gut feeling is that we aren't getting the whole story from the news paper. Do you think that this reporter was driving around East St. Louis in a patrol car waiting for news like this?

[Rosco2]

Dang, when you drive into the street-walker neighborhood that includes the streets of Lynch, 15th, Exchange, etc., you have to assume folks are armed.

Check out this story from BND.com:

ESL teen accused of buying $40 gun off the street, then trying to hide it

Weapon bought off street for $40

BY BETH HUNDSDORFER
News-Democrat (posted 11/24/2007)

An East St. Louis teenager faces weapons charges after police said he was trying to hide a gun he just bought off the street for $40, less than a week after another teenager was charged with the accidental shooting of a 5-year-old boy.

DeShawn L. Denton, 17, of 1513 N. 13th St. in East St. Louis, was charged Friday with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. [Google Maps shows his home address is at Natalie Avenue and 13th, where we've all driven.]

The St. Clair County Sheriff's Department Street Crimes Unit stopped a car about 10 p.m. Thursday at 15th and Lynch streets in East St. Louis, said Sgt. Thomas Trice, head of the unit.

"The driver told police he picked up a woman, then was flagged down by Denton, who offered to pay for a ride home," Trice said.
[Why would Denton need a ride home? His home is so close, maybe 4 blocks away depending on where Denton waved down the car. Also, why would this apparent monger pick up a fella in addition to the apparent SW? He may not have been thinking with his noggin.]

Deputies Tom Peters and Dan Hill noticed [passenger] Denton trying to stuff an object down into the backseat. With the driver's consent, they searched the car and found a .25 semi-automatic pistol between the seat cushions, Trice said.

Denton told deputies he had just bought the gun for $40.

Investigators continue to work the case to determine how Denton got the gun, Trice said.

Denton, who turned 17 in January, was charged as an adult.

His bail was set at $20,000. He was being held Friday in the county jail.

A 14-year-old boy was charged Tuesday with unlawful use of a firearm under the juvenile code after police said he discharged a gun and struck a 5-year-old who was sleeping in his bed.

Tyris Jones was released from the hospital earlier this week after he suffered a gunshot wound. The bullet traveled through a wall into Tryis' bedroom, striking the 5-year-old in the lower left chest.

Police and the mother of the juvenile, who cannot be identified because of his age, didn't know where he got the gun.

"We have to take these guns out of these children's hands," East St. Louis Police Chief Michael Baxton said after the boy was charged.

The street value of guns have dropped, Trice said, allowing younger children to gain access to weapons.

"It's definitely something we are seeing," Trice said. "It's tough when guns go for little to nothing, like in this case."
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It was the county sheriff's department that made the stop, not East St. Louis police or state troopers. The County Sheriff--we haven't heard them mentioned here before.

I wonder if the driver might not have been stopped if he hadn't picked up the car's third occupant.

[KC Questor]

Sometimes I find it is actually helpful to have out of state plates. I've only been stopped once and I was prepared with a plan where it really helps to be from out of town. Before I cruise a known stroll I make sure to write out directions or even print a map that clearly shows a path through the stroll area. I get a valid reason for being at the start and end points, and then I have an excuse for why I am in between. If they catch me driving in circles, it isn't hard to pretend to be lost, to be mixed up, bad sense of direction.

"Hi officer, I am so lost. Hope you can help. I was coming from my hotel in Fairview Heights, headed to, what was the name... Brooklyn? I'm supposed to meet a friend/business contact at a, hehe, club there. (embarrassed).

"Well, see, I got off I-64 on highway 3 and turned right like it says, but that became Collinsville Road and my map says it should be St. Clair. So I turned around and came back. I crossed that bridge over the highway and made the right turn but then I saw Second street, then First street, so I figured I missed Third street (like I confused 3rd street with highway 3). So I turned around and went to First street and over to Third street, but that didn't go anywhere. I got a bit lost and ended up back where I got off the highway on 9th street..."

Every couple of laps I actually drive up to Brooklyn, wait a few minutes, and start the loop in reverse. "See, I was supposed to meet a friend at PTs and he just called and said he couldn't make it, so I was headed back to my hotel..."

Attached is a map of my typical ESL circuit. If I am stopped at most any point I have a pretty good explanation for how I got lost here.

In some cities with more straightforward strolls (OBT in Orlando, S. Robinson in OKC, Broadway in Wichita) I just need to have a valid reason for being out late at night. My favorite is "I just got into town and I have a presentation at ___ early in the morning. I wanted to make sure that I knew how to get there tomorrow so I am not late." Then I have the address of a hotel near one end of the strip and a business location at the other.

It helps to play stupid. I'm just a Kansas hick confused by all them cars and buildings and city lights.

[Rollamale]

Last summer I was cruising. LEO pulled in behind me. Im not sure where exactly I was. I think it was near the closed bridege across the river( Not the chain of Rocks) another one!!LOL Anyway he pulled in behind me and held back about 50 feet. He followed me for about 2 miles.

that same day I was driving by the Dscreet motel and another one pulled behind me. He followed me all the way to Brooklyn. I then pulled into the parking ot of the Pink Slip. He drove past me real slow looking at me. I waved and smiled!!

Rollamale

[Rosco2]

I say take your chances on the MO side & consider getting a "monger car".

There are lots of cops on Missouri's South Side, too.

I actually don't know on which side you're currently more likely to be stopped. But I don't think that you'll automatically be stopped on the East Side just because you have Missouri plates.

Any other Missouri folks "shopping" on the East Side want to weigh in on this question?

[Luvtheladies]

..."Like the E.STl boys I visited with last month, he told me to stay away from the area. They know that a white boy with out of state plates is either looking for drugs or hookers.


I think this is my wake up call. Since August, I been caught by Madison, E. St. Louis, and now Fairmont City. Either I'm getting sloppy, or there cracking down. I'm done picking up girls on the East Side.


I think, unless you incriminate yourself, there isn't too much they can do to you. After doing this for over ten years, I think I need to rethink my approach.

The hard hitting realities of CB's honesty can NOT be over-emphasized here.
White boy + out of state plates = Sitting duck with cash

I say take your chances on the MO side & consider getting a "monger car".

Take care and be safe!

LTL

[Rosco2]

For the third time since August, I had a run in with uncle LEO...Finally he got out, and walked over to me...

Country Boy #3, yow! The cops love you! When I was in town 3 weeks ago, I saw an officer as I was driving south on either Lynch or Winstanley from 9th. The officer was driving north on Lynch/Winstanley, and passed me without stopping me.

I have out-of-state plates (Missouri plates like you) and a nice car, but I haven't been stopped yet on the East Side. In trips taken in other months, I saw a cruiser driving a couple blocks behind me on St. Clair as I was driving near the Discreet, and a cruiser on Exchange driving in the opposite direction.

If anybody else has stories about being stopped, please share. Thanks Country Boy, for letting us know.

Oh yeah, I forgot. Many months ago, I saw a cruiser drive into the parking lot of a motel. I actually liked seeing the officer there because that probably keeps the number of robberies and car break-ins at motels down. He was just doing a routine inspection of the lot, and drove off. Would you believe I was actually dumb enough to drive up to his car, and ask if somebody had called him to the motel! {LOL} He said no, nobody called him.

You do seem to get stopped a lot, though. I wonder if your car is a model that happens to be on their suspect list for something? Or something like that.

Anyway, I guess it's no surprise to see lots of police cruisers around. It's a high-crime area.

[Country Boy #3]

For the third time since August, I had a run in with uncle LEO. I took a girl to a notel in Fairmont city. When we were done, I took the key back. As I walked back to my vehicle, I see one of the city's finest was setting there talking to the girl. I was pretty sure he wasn't there to exchange pleasantries. He was setting in his car, and she was leaning in his passenger window. I walked on past to my vehicle, but didn't think there was enough room to get past him. I sat there wondering what she was telling him. Finally he got out, and walked over to me. He did everything he could do to get me to incriminate myself. Like the E.STl boys I visited with last month, he told me to stay away from the area. They know that a white boy with out of state plates is either looking for drugs or hookers.


I think this is my wake up call. Since August, I been caught by Madison, E. St. Louis, and now Fairmont City. Either I'm getting sloppy, or there cracking down. I'm done picking up girls on the East Side.


I think, unless you incriminate yourself, there isn't too much they can do to you. After doing this for over ten years, I think I need to rethink my approach.

[Kemo Sabe]

Amazing how fast they hit the streets when they are released from Prison. She was on the stroll within a few days of being released. It makes me wonder what was gained by locking her up for 2 years.

[Alex P Keaton]

I think that the Washington Park Hotel is called the Econo Inn. It's actually west of Hwy 111 on Bunkum Rd. I have not tried it yet.

Indeed, it is the Econo Inn Motel at 5307 Bunkum Road. It is kitty-corner from Miss Kitty's. Pluses are the deadbolts, peepholes, and magnetic strip keycards. A minus is the $10 surcharge if you bring two guests with you.