General Reports

[Jamesj]

Did the east side drive late this afternoon. Took the usual route, saw 2BSW standing in the rain near CR & Lynch. Very low quality and did not partake. Maybe the 'pickins' will be better tomorrow.

Be safe and happy hunting,

JAMESJ

[Missery]

Lust Full for what is worth.

The way I see it, anyone that tries to rip off or steal from a person, deserves what they get. Perhaps they will think twice before doing it again.

The only thing I might have done any different, would have been tossing her stuff in the middle of the road in front of the hotel.

[Tommy Boy]

Lust Full,

Don't let a couple of negative comments get you down. There are two kinds of posts that are the most valuable. One is descriptive reports of good dates, especially with a new girl that hasn't been reported on before. The second, and equally if not more valuable, is reports of various scams that the girls have tried and who tried them. Cash & Dash is hardly the worst. A few wise men have posted on this thread about how we should carry no more cash on us than we are willing to lose. Far worse than that is being mugged or having your car stolen. Your report about Crystal and her method of stealing cars by running out of the motel room with a guys clothes (and keys) was a great one.

Largely because of your reports like that one on Crystal, whenever I meet a new girl, I now ask her name BEFORE letting her in my car, regardless of her appearance. If she gives a name that has been connected to any rip-off reports on this thread, I immediately drive off. I know this isn't a perfect solution. Sometimes more than one girl uses the same name. Or a girl with a particularly bad rep might start using a new street name or even impersonate a girl with a good rep. But it still beats blind ignorance.

It seems that the consensus is that I was wrong and everyone is offended to hear of the situation and I should be ashamed of myself. As such, henceforth, I will only report on the pleasant dates that I have. If I have a problem with a girl, I will keep it to myself. And I suspect that many reading all of this will come to the same conclusion.

[Jannisary]

Boy am I glad I didn't decide to go against my instincts and pick up anyone. Whew.

I was in the area on Sunday and made a pass through the stroll area. I saw a thick bsw with red hair, and a kinda cute looking bsw with straight shoulder length hair just of CR on Lake. I circled around and came back up Lake. I hadn't seen her when I drove by on CR but there was Gena and she hollered at me and came up to the car. She would have climbed right in if I hadn't kept the passenger side door locked. Gena is a nice gal but I really wasn't interested in her. Told I was scoping things out and started to pull away.

The kinda cute looking bsw came up to the passenger side window next. I had been interested in her from what I had seen from CR. Thin with jeans that showed off a pretty nice looking ass. Straight shoulder length hair and a nice smile. Unfortunately somebody smacked her across the face with something that left one heck of a mark. Basically diagonally from her left eye to the right side of her chin. Part of it was scabbed over but some of it looked pretty raw to me. No way would I be risking even a cbj in that condition. For a second I thought about taking her to Fairmont anyways. With her ass up and face down on the bed so what would it matter anyways.

But my gut instinct was telling me to get going so I politely declined her request for company. I pulled onto to CR and was just past the RR underpass when who do I meet but two of Fairmont's finest. Maybe me (nerdy white guy) having a black gal who is probably a known sw in my car wouldn't have raised any suspicions with them but I'm glad I didn't find out.

[Missery]

I just recently started going back to Roxy's during the day shift and have been pleasantly surprised. I hadn't been there in years. The club itself hasn't changed a bit, but the action has.

It has been several years since I have been to Brooklyn. Cruised through there the other day, before the old Fantasyland caught fire the second time. I was quite taken aback. A lot of the old buildings are gone. It looks pretty desolate. There were a couple of very rough looking people walking around, male and female.

I remember having a lot of fun in those old haunts. But I could not make myself stop and check out the old Roxy's. Something told me to just keep on driving.

Are there any bright spots there now? Any one who can share any positive stories about the establishments there, or particular girls?

Wound up in WP that day.

More on that elsewhere.

Remember. Paranoia is just good thinking when they are all out to get you.

[Just Aguy]

Did a lap around the ESL stroll Sunday. Saw a group of 4 or 5 WSWs. One looked really hot but I don't like to be out numbered so I kept going. Drove down to the gas station and turned around where Uncle Leo always seems to be hanging out. Headed back down towards 64 saw another LEO and, wouldn't you know it, just a little bit more down the road, there were two LEOs sitting right at the intersection.

Boy am I glad I didn't decide to go against my instincts and pick up anyone. Whew.

[Lust Full]

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

Remember. Paranoia is just good thinking when they are all out to get you.

[Big0008]

It has been several years since I have been to Brooklyn. Cruised through there the other day, before the old Fantasyland caught fire the second time. I was quite taken aback. A lot of the old buildings are gone. It looks pretty desolate. There were a couple of very rough looking people walking around, male and female.

I remember having a lot of fun in those old haunts. But I could not make myself stop and check out the old Roxy's. Something told me to just keep on driving.

Are there any bright spots there now? Any one who can share any positive stories about the establishments there, or particular girls?

Wound up in WP that day.

More on that elsewhere.

Remember. Paranoia is just good thinking when they are all out to get you.

[Mdf8700]

Just wondering JD how you found out. I am sur eit happens far more often then most of us would like to think. Just wondering how you found out. Thinking of my kids. Hey who knows. I am out of town a lot back then.

[Lust Full]

Tommy, are you sure that you weren't there? You described exactly what happened. I was grabbing for my money, not her. When I got the money, I simply put her out, without her clothes, since she was creating such a ruckus and beating on me to get the money back.

And you're right in saying that it all would have ended anytime that she wished, if she would just refund my money for services that she wouldn't render.

I don't like beating on anyone either. And I never landed a single blow on her. The blood was from her arms and hands that I had to pull and twist in order to get my money. Your saying that she was like glue with my money is very accurate. It was glued so tightly that I had to take gouges of skin with it.

And, as far as arrest, my best guess is that she would fair far worse with the police than I. I just couldn't see her calling them. And if they happened to drive by, my best guess is that she would run like the wind, away from them. My arrest is most unlikely with these girls.

Her only recourse would be to tell the other sw's that she knows that I am bad and not to go with me. Just as my recourse with her is to report her to my fellow mongers.

It seems that the consensus is that I was wrong and everyone is offended to hear of the situation and I should be ashamed of myself. As such, henceforth, I will only report on the pleasant dates that I have. If I have a problem with a girl, I will keep it to myself. And I suspect that many reading all of this will come to the same conclusion.

That's unfortunate, because the sw's will have an advantage over us. They talk to each other and share information on those of us with whom they have problems. We will simply fall into their trap repeatedly because we don't know. And they know that they can do whatever they want with complete immunity because a man has NO RIGHT to stop her from doing as she pleases to him.

I strongly suspect that Bad Boy II is law enforcement. Does anyone know him? Has anyone met him? He does not, at all, have the mind of a monger. He's far too rigid. Too married to the law and unwritten, outdated rules, such as his statement of "Boys never hit girls". Something isn't right with him.

Lust Full has written a number of descriptive reports of dates gone bad and he has never before drawn such negative criticism. I feel badly that I drew attention to his actions in a way that perhaps distorted what actually happened and brought all this criticism on him.

Once again, I am grateful to him for reporting on bad dates, cash & dash attempts, etc. These are things we need to know about. I congratulate him on his candor.

I never meant to imply that I admired him for beating girls up or that he literally beat any of them up. I took his report on Tina to mean that she started yelling and screaming in an attempt to abort the date and leave with his cash without delivering the promised services. The way I pictured it next is that he demanded his cash back and she refused. I can believe that because these girls are like glue with your money. You have to literally pry it away from them with a crowbar to get it back. So I'm picturing that next she refuses and tries to leave with his money at which point he grabs her and tears at her clothes until he finds the money, fending off her blows and perhaps delivering one or two on the way himself. Or perhaps he pinned her down until he got hold of his money. That's not the same as delivering a full-fledged beating. All she had to do to stop any assault on her person was give back the money. I am assuming he pushed her out the door naked precisely because she was fighting the whole way and not being reasonable.

Again, I would not attempt to get physical with these girls, but I don't blame him for doing so. I disagree with Bad Boy's assertion that he has no right to get his money back because it is an illegal transaction to begin with. So what! The laws against victimless crimes are pointless and require a police state to be effectively enforced. Just because the state labels it a crime doesn't change the fact that it is in reality a business deal, a voluntary transaction between two consenting adults. And when one person attempts to abscond with the cash, it is a rip-off and people attempting to con and defraud other people, especially people bigger than them, shouldn't be surprised if they suffer physically for it. It is precisely because it is an illegal transaction that violence ends up being the only effective means of dispute resolution. That's why all black market activities, i.e. drugs, end up being dominated by the most violent individuals or gangs.

That kind of treatment is what these girls get in the hood anyway and that is what they will respect. A few of them might be smart enough to understand that ripping off customers is bad business because it generates bad publicity, but most of them are not that smart. They're only thinking ahead to the next hit of crack.

Again, I'm not a violent person myself, nor do I advocate anyone else beating any of these girls to a senseless pulp. But using a reasonable level of force to procure what is rightfully yours, that I can condone on the part of Lust Full or anyone else

[Lust Full]

Sorry JD, but I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding what you are trying to say. Please elaborate

Well in my case the worked worked well for me. In MO 2 years and you are signed up for life "support wise" however the other guy has difficulty coming back on me to take away parenting rights. I am obviously not happy with my wife but the children do not in any way deserve to have their rights F'ed up so I plan on continuing as is. It has not been the easiest but it certainly is the choice for me.

[Member #4228]

Saw a news report on TV a few months ago about guys who got "trapped" into marriage by a pregnant GF. They later learned the kid was not theirs and got a divorce. They were however forced to pay support on the kids since they had previosly claimed them. These guys were trying to get the law changed claiming that DNA evidence would free them from death row if it proved they were innocent, but it could not prevent them from paying child supprt forever for a kid who was not theirs.

Thsi would suck a lot.

Well in my case the worked worked well for me. In MO 2 years and you are signed up for life "support wise" however the other guy has difficulty coming back on me to take away parenting rights. I am obviously not happy with my wife but the children do not in any way deserve to have their rights F'ed up so I plan on continuing as is. It has not been the easiest but it certainly is the choice for me.

[Missery]

There was a fire at Fantasyland back on 2-20-2008. The most recent fire did a lot of damage. When are they going to get smart and doze the place or just let it burn all the way.

Fantasy Land, another burnt up mess courtesy of our federal government.

How long has it sat empty? How long ago was the last fire that gutted place? How long did the other place next to Platinum sit burnt out and empty? And fucking Buddy's too!

I'll tell ya too fucking long! How can someone getaway with leaving such a fucking mess of things? Well its the federal government, what the fuck do they care.

At least when those place were active businesses Brooklyn got business fees, sales tax, and property tax revenue off of them and they employed some local residents too. Brooklyn got fucked in the ass by the Feds, without lube or even a kiss goodbye.

[Tommy Boy]

Totally agree. The honest girls understand and expect you to take your keys. A year or two ago I picked up a bsw on a really cold night. So when we got to the motel, I was going to leave the engine running while I checked in so she could continue to warm up. She said to me, "Take your keys; never leave your keys in the car for anyone!" When dropping her off she gave me some more motherly advice: "Lock your doors and get your ass outta the hood!"

About car keys. There have been times when I had to get out of my car and leave the girl inside while I took care of something. Many times, the girls noticed that I grabbed my keys when I got out. They would say they wanted to listen to the radio while I was gone or pretend to be pissed off because I didn't trust them. Either way, always keep your car keys with you.

I got careless a few days ago and left the keys in my car. The girl didn't steal my car. She unlocked the glove box and hid her drugs in it while I was gone. Imagine my surprise if LE had stopped us and search my car. Do you think that they would believe me if I told them that drugs locked in my glove box weren't mine?

[Jannisary]

Fantasy Land, another burnt up mess courtesy of our federal government.

How long has it sat empty? How long ago was the last fire that gutted place? How long did the other place next to Platinum sit burnt out and empty? And fucking Buddy's too!

I'll tell ya too fucking long! How can someone getaway with leaving such a fucking mess of things? Well its the federal government, what the fuck do they care.

At least when those place were active businesses Brooklyn got business fees, sales tax, and property tax revenue off of them and they employed some local residents too. Brooklyn got fucked in the ass by the Feds, without lube or even a kiss goodbye.