Fake / Suspicious Spas on Rub Maps

[Scott585]

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Because they registered hundreds if not thousands of shill accounts no mention of those two places is allowed on this forum.

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[NamotuMan1]

Adding Soothing Spa and Comfy Spa, both in San Diego.

The dead giveaway is most (if not all) reviews show "This profile has been made private by the owner" when you click on the reviewer's name. Doesn't matter if the reviewer is listed as a noob, bronze, silver, hobbyist, etc.

Another potential giveaway is the existence of at least one new review every. Single. Day.

The increasing number of fake reviews from private reviewers makes the RM site practically useless.

Adding:

Young.

JW.

Moon.

These three are located in San Diego.

[Reds101]

Sometimes I have repeated with same providers and surprisingly some do read the boards and I was asked if I knew about these boards. I said "no, didn't know these existed. ".

Like fight club.

Didn't catch this earlier but yes. I think others have alluded in different threads in the past but I can 100% say that I have been offered "no house fee next visit" if I leave a positive review of a specific spa or provider but as much as I like to partake in fucking ****** for money, I still have morals LOL. I just act ignorant if the subject is brought up now.

[TacoManVa]

Updated list of spas that use fake review spammers. Again, not saying all reviews are fake but be safe out there.

Massage One in San Diego, California.

No. 1 Ark Massage Spa in San Diego, California.

Blue Sky Spa in San Diego, California.

ELF Massage Spa in San Diego, California.

Serenity Health & Wellness in San Diego, California.

Spa Bello in San Diego, California.

Head To Toe Massage Spa in Sacramento, California.

Blue & Moon Massage SPA in Santa Ana, California.

Star House Day Spa in Colton, California.

Lavender Massage in Temecula, California.

JL Massage Center in Moreno Valley, California.

Pavilion Massage & Spa in Tracy, California.

Are all of these spas owned by the same owner? LOL.

Adding:

Young.

JW.

Moon.

These three are located in San Diego.

[Reds101]

Looks like my first reply is still under review but just wanted to clarify. Not trying to start any arguments or anything like that. I think these forums are a great place to engage in open conversations with people since it's not easy for groups of people like us to get together in person and chat it up.

[Reds101]

When I read a negative review, it does make it stay away from a place, but why "negative reviews"? Is it to thwart others from seeing providers or spa and keep it a secret for themselves?

I also take overly negative reviews with a grain of salt. It's really all about the details IMO. Why was the experience negative? Were the sheets dirty but services were fine? Great. Now with that "negative review" information, people that read the review can make a decision to risk it or ask for fresh sheets when they visit the spa, etc. Was the review negative because you read someone else's experience and didn't get the same treatment? If so, at least we know that the reported looks of the provider may be accurate but mongers can lower expectations for services if they decide to visit. And we need to always remind ourselves that YMMV.

But if I go along with the same thought process as your question, I can ask the same thing about "positive reviews"? Why "positive reviews"? Is it to drive more business to the providers and spa even thought it could potentially be a negative for the monger next time they want to see the same provider?

Yes these forums (and other sites) should really be for entertainment purposes but some people really enjoyed the "status" they got from being an insider of a spa and essentially advertising girls and services before experiencing themselves. Do I have 100% proof? No. But I've seen detailed reviews of providers within minutes of receiving messages from mamasan that they have that specific new girl coming later that day and the overly positive reviews do more bad than good for the users IMO since newbies might expect the same type of services as regulars that have chemistry with providers. Some reviews are come across like fantasy short stories to sell a dream rather than useful information to other users here.

[Tjinla2001]

Rubmaps fuckin stinks for the exact reasons you mentioned. I renewed recently to check in and it's worse than ever.

I think it is useful to subscribe to the site for one month to make sure you know the potential bbfscip providers in Southern California. Michelle in Pasadena, Cici in Rosemead, the old time Korean shops in Fullerton and 7-11 Jenny's latest location. Otherwise it serves no purpose.

[DrPornDawger]

I read the forums for "entertainment purposes only" and for the fact of getting some intel on spas or providers. I have done the TOFTT and have reported it.

When I read a negative review, it does make it stay away from a place, but why "negative reviews"? Is it to thwart others from seeing providers or spa and keep it a secret for themselves?

I have been to spas or seen providers and I didn't get a chance to review them "lazy I guess" and then I will see a negative review which I didn't experience and feel why did this person say these things.

Sometimes I have repeated with same providers and surprisingly some do read the boards and I was asked if I knew about these boards. I said "no, didn't know these existed. ".

Like fight club.

[Waylay]

After 11+ years of premium membership at rubmaps I finally canceled my membership. The admins there are completely worthless. Reporting reviews as fake never get them removed, reporting users never get anything done, etc.

Some of the same trolls that have been banned here seem to be the most active ones on the site and have a buddy buddy system of defending each other. And some of these mongers are actually in love with certain spas / girls. Super loser incel behavior imo LOL.

I may reactivate my membership when I'm traveling to different cities but I'm glad I was finally able to pull the plug. Its become an echo chamber of 3-5 people repeating the same thing while accusing anyone they disagree with as being trolls or competition from spas that they are in love with. So glad admin did something on these forums. Even if some may think its drastic, there's been so much more useful information here ever since the bans on certain topics and labeling of shill users.

Rubmaps fuckin stinks for the exact reasons you mentioned. I renewed recently to check in and it's worse than ever.

[Reds101]

After 11+ years of premium membership at rubmaps I finally canceled my membership. The admins there are completely worthless. Reporting reviews as fake never get them removed, reporting users never get anything done, etc.

Some of the same trolls that have been banned here seem to be the most active ones on the site and have a buddy buddy system of defending each other. And some of these mongers are actually in love with certain spas / girls. Super loser incel behavior imo LOL.

I may reactivate my membership when I'm traveling to different cities but I'm glad I was finally able to pull the plug. Its become an echo chamber of 3-5 people repeating the same thing while accusing anyone they disagree with as being trolls or competition from spas that they are in love with. So glad admin did something on these forums. Even if some may think its drastic, there's been so much more useful information here ever since the bans on certain topics and labeling of shill users.

[Reds101]

Updated list of spas that use fake review spammers. Again, not saying all reviews are fake but be safe out there.

Massage One in San Diego, California.

No. 1 Ark Massage Spa in San Diego, California.

Blue Sky Spa in San Diego, California.

ELF Massage Spa in San Diego, California.

Serenity Health & Wellness in San Diego, California.

Spa Bello in San Diego, California.

Head To Toe Massage Spa in Sacramento, California.

Blue & Moon Massage SPA in Santa Ana, California.

Star House Day Spa in Colton, California.

Lavender Massage in Temecula, California.

JL Massage Center in Moreno Valley, California.

Pavilion Massage & Spa in Tracy, California.

Are all of these spas owned by the same owner? LOL.

[Zaitzev]

LOL, on Rubmaps, I just look at the raw # of reviews a place has since I don't have a paid account (too lazy to write reviews every time I go). This is especially useful if I'm going somewhere in an area I'm not familiar with.

If it has over 50, it has extras.

If it has over 100, it's probably FS (or just a place that has given quality handies for years, like Sakata in San Marcos). Either one works for me.

If it's over 200, get in there soon because it's probably going to get shut down by vice!

Another quick rub maps tip / advice from someone that has been on this site for for close to 15 years and rub maps for over 10 years.

If you see a review that looks interesting, click on the username to check their profile.

If it is a private profile, I ignore the review and assume it is a shill.

If it is a public profile, and all they post is 5 star reviews, I assume it is a shill.

If it is a public profile, and all they do is review 1 or 2 spas repeatedly, I assume it is a shill.

This rule may not apply 100% of the time but I stick to this myself to weed out bad information and it has worked for me pretty consistently over the years.

[ArrogantBstrd]

"Obvious shill for 108. ".

LOL.

I have fallen in love with pussy several times, but never enough to become a white knight / shill.

[Reds101]

I've seen word for word copy and paste reviews all over RM and not just in San Diego. The white knight activity there for negative reviews is pathetic. A lot of it is obvious, but I'd rather not waste time reading them to figure it out. RM is good for phone numbers, addresses and a lot of suspect reviews.

Another quick rub maps tip / advice from someone that has been on this site for for close to 15 years and rub maps for over 10 years.

If you see a review that looks interesting, click on the username to check their profile.

If it is a private profile, I ignore the review and assume it is a shill.

If it is a public profile, and all they post is 5 star reviews, I assume it is a shill.

If it is a public profile, and all they do is review 1 or 2 spas repeatedly, I assume it is a shill.

This rule may not apply 100% of the time but I stick to this myself to weed out bad information and it has worked for me pretty consistently over the years.

[Reds101]

It doesn't matter if the situation was handled on site at the time. The guy has a right to do a review.

The issue is resolved for future patrons who can choose to either avoid the establishment or verify new and clean sheets and towels.

Agreed 100%.