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**Stoner** · 02-04-13 02:51

Originally Posted by Phil LaFaon [View Original Post]

. But how do I avoid that same mistake or any other mistake of not just "boyfriends" barging in or the bite of an LE sting in the future when using CV or BP?

Not exactly sure of your definitions of OC and IC. I assume you mean outcall vs incall.

To answer your more prominent question, a few things:

Regardless of incall or outcall, there are things to keep in mind.

What was stated earlier of checking for reviews, whatever, is important. If you can't afford the risk, leave it others and their reviews. I won't say much more on that.

If you are doing outcall (meaning she comes to you) :

1. Choose your outcall. I've known some ladies who tell you where to do outcall, from city to even which hotel. Avoid that at all costs. Your choice at all times for outcall.

2. Setup a time and place, and be there before the time you setup. Watch her arrive, and who with. See who else is at the locale walking about, on cell phones, or just seeming too "in place" or out of place. If you get funny vibes, bail. If something is not truthful. Bail. Be willing to bail. Better to lose $50 on a room. In all cases...observe and keep mental note.

3. After she arrives. Watch the change in the environ of other customers there. Again: Who was "in place" before. What are they doing? Are they reacting in any way to your approach? Again. Be prepared to bail.

4. You are less likely to get stung on outcall. But all sorts of bad things can spook the hell out of you, and you are trapped in more ways than one.

5. Never hinder your guests ability to make calls, but pay attention. And keep your wits. That hotel receipt (you know, the one with you CC info, address, plate number, etc) lock it up or destroy it. Your wallet...protect it.

6. If at all possible, do not park near your outcall. Again, arrive early and place car away from your room.

7. If you are actually staying at the hotel for an extended period...please be careful of who you bring in. Is it worth letting them know where you are to be found later? Be careful of the info you share.

8. Just because a place is no-tell does not mean they will defend your rights like zealous ACLU lawyer. Stay observant.

If you are doing incall (meaning you go to her) :

1. This is potentially the highest risk in every way, but for some of us - Its the only way to go.

2. Again, setup the time and show up earlier. Observe it. Note changes as your time is about to start what changes in the environ take place.

3. If you must: it is better to be late and postpone an incall. The reaction of that speaks volumes. Observe their verbal reaction to your slight delay, and the environment change.

4. Follow the procedure about where you park when in doubt. Again, arrive early and observe. Can't tell you how many times I do this to observe who leaves, how, and in what before my "start" time. If she lies to you about it, watch out. You can't assume you are the only rooster in the hen house. You are just concerned about what rooster is in the hen house.

5. She may ask what type of car you are driving. Think on your feet because she's smart. Lie, and it can go badly. Tell the truth. And you've given away your advantage. Choose your own adventure there.

6. On approach to room: Again, especially with arriving early. Observe what you can. I want to elaborate, but some of you have the guile of an ox in heat. I won't throw pearls before swine, so to speak. Just be observant with eyes and ears.

7. When entering room - Keep this in mind: Its already over. If its a sting, you are caught. You just don't know it yet. You f'd up and you are one and done. If its not a sting...Your concern is not about the sting now, but all of the other nefarious surprises that can happen. If it is a sting, hopefully you've read enough on how NOT to incriminate yourself.

8. So you are now in. She openned the door, you are in. Now assess and think. Greet as normal, but your eyes should on a swivel. Does the room look lived in? Long term? Short term? How many people? You see shoes? Who's shoes? Are there closed doors? Bathroom door? If so, ask to see the bathroom and (if needed other closed spaces) briefly. (I've stumbled into lots of dumb scenarios here). If it looks like multiple chicks are there by all signs, yet you don't see them - Don't panic, but *think*. They may have been outside watching you come in! They may be in the bathroom with the door locked, waiting for you to do your thing and leave! It may be the chick you watched go from one room to another moments before you were to arrive.

9. One of my favorite ATFs in the escort world would travel with boyfriend. He would keep his shaving kit in the bathroom with his toothbrush. I don't mind. But once I knew, I stayed aware. Just from casual observation of using the bathroom. (Later, I found his timberland boots still under the bed.) He keeps her safe and happy. I have no problem with that. But what you don't want...is him in the bathroom!

10. Keep your stuff within reach at all times, and be ready to bail. If someone knocks, or a someone is hiding in bathroom...Just realize it was by design. Bail. Not worth the hassle. Ever. No matter what she says, get your stuff and go. And chalk it up to being more observant next time with the big head. Do not pass go, and definitely do not try to get your "money back" or plot revenge. Do not accept "promises" for future dates. Just review it and move on, knowing you've saved others, and cost her thousands in cash with a one honest bad review. Hopefully you did all of your assessing before you gave her that envelope.

11. BTW...the envelope is good for you. Mark it as gift, unless she asks otherwise. Or make it a birthday card.

Finally, in all cases: If the escort has a bodyguard or driver...be cognizant, but the rules change...be savvy enough to play along. She should have reviews. If not...stay sharp...but the odds are no longer in your favor in any way.

**Stoner** · 02-04-13 01:58

Originally Posted by When In Vegas [View Original Post]

Stoner, not sure what site you are looking at, but I can assure you the next wave of genetic evolution is occurring on the floor and chairs of that place. I did have a fun time in the couples balcony however. Kind of like a little public exhibition adventure.

When In Vegas and Jimmj1210, LOL!

Thanks! I'll continue to hold position just out of orbit of that place. My exhibitionist days are limited to when I am out of the state on hotel balconies. Warm states only. That was crossed off the bucket list long ago a few different times and ways. That place gives me creepy memories of the old Combat Zone in Boston!

**Member #4554** · 02-03-13 15:19

Hey fellas! I know ya've been wondering where I been, well work has had me running like crazy! But today is Sunday and I feel like I need to break out of this daily grind and take a walk on the wild side. So. At some point in the near future here (wink). My bf and I are are going to go check out the Cinema, I need some art intake! If ya got my number, send me a text. I might answer it. I need a good mind release from my bull shit job. Nothing like a fun filled day at the cinema enjoying the roosters! Kinda like getting back to being on the farm! See ya around, S

**When In Vegas** · 02-03-13 13:27

Stoner, not sure what site you are looking at, but I can assure you the next wave of genetic evolution is occurring on the floor and chairs of that place. I did have a fun time in the couples balcony however. Kind of like a little public exhibition adventure.

Originally Posted by Stoner [View Original Post]

Damn. That website looks so clean, and those pictures look so hygenic. I'm almost tempted to try out the Couples Only balcony.

I picture that place being a practical petri dish of bacteria and other forms of infestations. Have I been that wrong all this time, or are these just really clean pictures?

**Phil LaFaon** · 02-03-13 12:51

Originally Posted by Bookie [View Original Post]

Rent your own room and reading reviews would be a big help.

Thanks for the info Bookie. But how reliable are those review sites? Like another site or AF? I have read how they are not that reliable. Posts by the girls themselves.

**Bookie** · 02-03-13 11:56

Originally Posted by Phil LaFaon [View Original Post]

Just wondering if I could get a little feedback on a couple of topics. This may come off as being kind of newbie-ish. Common sense would tell me that for safety sake OC would be the way too go, when setting something up. But from a personal point of view, IC not so much. Long story. Short. I was set-up and ripped off of my $ and too top it off I got a wonderful suprise when the chicks "boyfriend" came in from the other room when she conveniently left to get a drink and he chased me off. I set this whole mess up through one of those chat lines in the back of the Advocate. That may have been a rookie mistake on my part I'm sure. Live and learn. But how do I avoid that same mistake or any other mistake of not just "boyfriends" barging in or the bite of an LE sting in the future when using CV or BP? I would have to think that sticking to the OC method would be my best bet. But I know it may not be an option if I would like having some variety or a decent rotation. Any advice would be really helpful. Also any input on phone etiquette would be also greatly appreciated. Feel free to PM.

Again thanks for any info.

Phil

Rent your own room and reading reviews would be a big help.

**Phil LaFaon** · 02-02-13 20:50

Just wondering if I could get a little feedback on a couple of topics. This may come off as being kind of newbie-ish. Common sense would tell me that for safety sake OC would be the way too go, when setting something up. But from a personal point of view, IC not so much. Long story. Short. I was set-up and ripped off of my $ and too top it off I got a wonderful suprise when the chicks "boyfriend" came in from the other room when she conveniently left to get a drink and he chased me off. I set this whole mess up through one of those chat lines in the back of the Advocate. That may have been a rookie mistake on my part I'm sure. Live and learn. But how do I avoid that same mistake or any other mistake of not just "boyfriends" barging in or the bite of an LE sting in the future when using CV or BP? I would have to think that sticking to the OC method would be my best bet. But I know it may not be an option if I would like having some variety or a decent rotation. Any advice would be really helpful. Also any input on phone etiquette would be also greatly appreciated. Feel free to PM.

Again thanks for any info.

Phil

**Jimmj1210** · 01-28-13 18:14

Originally Posted by Stoner [View Original Post]

Damn. That website looks so clean, and those pictures look so hygenic. I'm almost tempted to try out the Couples Only balcony.

I picture that place being a practical petri dish of bacteria and other forms of infestations. Have I been that wrong all this time, or are these just really clean pictures?

Probably the same photographers who take those real estate pics that make that fixer upper next to nuclear waste site look presentable.

**Stoner** · 01-28-13 01:49

Damn. That website looks so clean, and those pictures look so hygenic. I'm almost tempted to try out the Couples Only balcony.

I picture that place being a practical petri dish of bacteria and other forms of infestations. Have I been that wrong all this time, or are these just really clean pictures?

**Ed Is Looking** · 01-27-13 11:21

Originally Posted by Tiger 37 [View Original Post]

Any new updates on this or at the Art, I have not heard anything or seen any news reports, was curious if this was still the deal or if its cool there again?

Tiger

They're just fine, as far as I can tell it was just a troll stirring up shit. In fact they have a really nice website now at http://theartcinema.com/ Which I believe was created by Dr Emilio Lizardo himself (runs the #1 blogs on adult theaters)

**Zippy2853** · 01-27-13 04:46

Originally Posted by Tiger 37 [View Original Post]

Any new updates on this or at the Art, I have not heard anything or seen any news reports, was curious if this was still the deal or if its cool there again?

Tiger

There are times you may find HPD in the lobby hanging out. Not problems or issues, just a friendly nod.

**Tiger 37** · 01-22-13 00:50

Originally Posted by Michaelzxc [View Original Post]

Posted on CL.

"We heard through a reliable source Hartford Vice was sitting downstairs and posing as a couple upstairs. Also something about guys bringing in prostitutes and vice chatting with the girls afterwards on the streets."

Any new updates on this or at the Art, I have not heard anything or seen any news reports, was curious if this was still the deal or if its cool there again?

Tiger

**Ct Guy70** · 01-01-13 13:29

Happy new year everyone. Hope everyone has a great year.

**Michaelzxc** · 12-28-12 12:53

Posted on CL.

"We heard through a reliable source Hartford Vice was sitting downstairs and posing as a couple upstairs. Also something about guys bringing in prostitutes and vice chatting with the girls afterwards on the streets."