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  1. #36
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1356

    Laws and intent and secrecy

    I got to chime in quickly, I use to belive it was ok to post everything out for everyone to see, that was why we have this board, and slowly but surely everything was closed, now I am of the opinion that pm the details is much better then posting it out for everyone to see, sure le could be a senior member with 1500 post's, but the chances are slim, LE use this board? Maybe but why risk it? why give out intel to someone who hasn't provided anything themselves? can post's on this board be use din a court of law, maybe to obtain proable cause to search a place, against a monger I doubt it, but with the current enviroment against privacy and freedom of speech I would not want to risk it. Simply put it ain't worth posting details what's the payoff? s/w's and strippers amps etc are diffrent s/w's are fluid they move from place to place amps can't, it makes them an easy target for le to bust. ok to post very vaugue details but don't get specific it's just not worth it.

  2. #35

    You know what is disappointing

    There are very few people willing to think about these issues and then comment upon them.
    I am sure that we have some legal professionals, whether it be an attorney, police officers that are here for their own personal needs or what ever.
    If you do have extended knowledge of the laws, and how postings here might be used or why they couldn't be used, we'd all love to hear about it.

    As far as the current debate, Vlad De Sade and I have very different views on the subject. That is alright.

    Rather than carry on a long and drawn-out thread that is likely to bore everyone, since no one else comments, why don't we think about how we can change the current situation. Whether it be legalization or legislation, we do need to come up with a plan. This is one point that we all probably agree on.

    If you have ideas on how to carry out this plan, I'm sure that this would be a lively conversation. One that we all would be willing to carry on.

  3. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad De Sade
    OCA,

    Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

    Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...

    I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...

    Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!

    Late, V da Sadist
    What a bunch of babble. Just because I disagree with your strategy, you resort to a senseless attack, and encourage a barrage of PM's. Senseless. I suppose that really shows your state of mind.

    The truth of the matter, as I have an interest in this subject I have bothered to do some research. Nearly all of it available via google, sure, I did open a Pacer account so that I could observe the pending case against Mao and company. Everything else, you can find on your own using your favorite search engine. I encourage you to do so. The articles you will find will really open your eyes. You will find that LE in many municipalities basically tolerates MP's, for what ever reason. When they get their marching orders, they will close down a shop. Otherwise, how could you possibly explain cities like Inglewood. They have several AMP's that have been open for nearly 10 years plus. Sure, a number of them closed recently, but not due to local LE.

    As far as LE goes, they don't need this forum. In fact, they really don't need any forum, but there are other forums that provide similiar info. If its simply a matter of principal, then sure not posting the info works to a degree, but only to serve your own principals. If you think that strategy is actually going to work and protect these places, then I am not the one that is delusional. You would be totally ignoring these other forums that are providing info.

  4. #33

    Trusted

    OCA,

    Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

    Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...

    I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...

    Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!

    Late, V da Sadist

  5. #32

    Woodland Hills

    ReallyaNiceGuy,

    Don't bother with Cindy, fully clothed HJ only.

  6. #31
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1356

    pm

    Quote Originally Posted by ReallyaNiceGuy
    By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?
    I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.
    Mike
    A good masage & f/s In the Valley Can we be so lucky ? ?

    Let me know the name & loc if you get a chance I would love to check out something local for a change, I haven't seen a thing here in Years.
    Thanks Be Safe || Have fun

  7. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad De Sade
    PM to trusted members only!
    It always makes me wonder when someone makes a statement like this. There is no way to know who is trusted or not.

    Like I've said before, the police know of these places. In fact, in most cities, the application for the massage permit goes before the Chief of Police.

    Some cities have enacted ordinances where officials may inspect these parlors at any time, without a search warrant. BTW, this was challenged all the way to the highest courts, which found the searches constitutional. This is the long way of saying, in many cities LE tolerates these establishments. Other cities, there is no tolerance. These places will come onto the radar regardless of what is written here or not.
    If you didn't know, there are review sites where individuals post of their conquests in extreme and organized detail. To not put useful information only serves to make this site not as useful as the others, which doesn't really help us.

  8. #29

    Fun can still be had...

    Mongers,

    I am happy YOU have found some decent CAMP fun. Good work boys. The SFV has everything we need: professionals, amateurs, CAMPS, etc... Sure the glory days of past are long gone but never forgotten.

    I am especially pleased that YOU guys are keeping it off the radar. CAMPs are great fun. And FS can be had along w/a great massage. Do not post names of places or their locations. PM to trusted members only! And always have a blast all over some beautiful pale skinned Chinese girls face... I do!

    Late, V da Sadist

  9. #28

    Sfv Amps

    Waytago, Mike!!!

  10. #27

    Woodland Hills CAMP

    Thursday night my back was killing me and I decided I really needed a massage. No, I mean it, I wanted a real massage. So I jumped on Craigslist, in the Therapeutic Services section, and found an Asian place in Woodland Hills. Gave them a call to make sure they were open and got the address. When I got there two older, I mean they weren’t in their 20’s, maybe between 30 and 40, but nice looking Chinese women greeted me. I told them about my back and was led to a room upstairs. I paid the girl 40 for half an hour, she asked me to get ready and she left the room. I stripped and lay on the table for a few minutes tell she came back. She put some oil on me and went right to work on my back and I think it was helping my sore muscles a lot. She moved around so she was standing at the end by my head and started long strokes from my shoulders down my back. Soon she was rubbing my ass and inside my thighs with her whole upper body laying on me. She then forced my legs apart and went to work on my dick and hole. After awhile I turned on my side, unbuttoned her pants and slid them down. As she stepped out of her pants I lifted up her shirt and she unhooked her bra. I guided her head to go down on me and got a BBBJ without saying a word. I pulled her up and she kissed me all over my lips, face, neck and chest as she pulled her panties aside and slid me into her. After she got used to the size she really started to rock and roll. She seemed to be really enjoying herself so I just hung on for the ride. It felt like she came a couple of times before I shot my load inside of her and she acted like she enjoyed that even more. After we were done she wanted to cuddle and she got giggly and very playful. She then got up and got a damp cloth and cleaned me up. She got my clothes and helped me get dressed. Don’t you just love that about Asian girls! As I was leaving I asked her about a tip but she spoke almost no English and didn’t understand what I was talking about so I started to leave. But she stopped me and as she looked into my eyes she said something I didn’t understand and made this sign with her hands about the size of a dollar. I said OK and pulled out a 20, she took it and said something else I didn’t understand so I pulled out another 20 and gave it to her and now she was happy and gave me a big hug and a big wet kiss. We walked downstairs hand in hand as she kept saying “You love Lisa”. The other lady was sitting on the couch and got up to introduce herself and as she told me her name was Cindy she gave me a hug and a kiss on the cheek then they both held my hand and walked me to the door. What an unexpected surprise the whole thing was and only 80 bucks. Not only that the next day my back felt great. Now I know I shouldn’t have done it without protection and I ALWAYS do but what the heck now.

    By the way, I looked this place up on the Erotic Section and they have several ads there as well. Interesting thing is that it states “This is not full service” I wonder if the boss knows what these girls are up to. You think?

    I will be back and it’s close to my house but next time I think I’ll try Cindy.

    Mike

  11. #26

    Gotta act fast...

    This CMP has brought in female "marketeers" from SF. They'll be here about a week. My guess is they'll do everything, and leave the tip up to you. I think they just want to quickly develop happy customers.

    I was just checkin' out the place and wasn't going to stay for a massage, but...

    ...the Chinese girl grabbed me by the hand and pulled me into a room, before I could back out. I thought, what the hell, I'll check out this place, from the inside. LOL

    She knew her way around a man's body, that's for sure. Turns out she's from SF. She has an average face, but very nice, natural B's/C's, and a very cute butt.

    I didn't want to mislead her, so I told her that I will come back to see her again before she goes home to SF, because I didn't have $ for fun tonight. But she continued with the sensual touches, and oiled up the tiger cub and off to the manual races. She allowed me to pet her kitty, inside and out. I shot and left her what little remained in my wallet.

    Only pm me if you already know me or if you include a worthwhile review with contact info.

  12. #25
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1356
    Quote Originally Posted by FedEx
    Here's an advice to the SFV mongers:
    Call the AMP in advance and ask if they have C-girls or K-girls. If it's a CAMP, bring your own cover and if you play your cards right, you may get a quick cbj from a late 30's - mid 40's C-girl for $40 + $60 (some will want more tip, but will take $60). Mostly you will get a HJ - to tip or not to tip is up to you.

    If it's a KAMP, most likely you can get a rushed, unenthusiastic FS from a
    45 - 55 y.o. K-lady in a room with big windows on the door. Entry will probably be $50 and the old hags will ask for $100 - $120 for the 1/2 ass service with their worn out bodies. Don't even ask for DFK... These providers used to be hot in the '70's... LOL

    Take your game to the SGV, Oxnard or Hollywood / West Hollywood areas. Get a copy of the L.A. Weekly or the L.A. Xpress, read the corresponding boards on this fine California forum and everything you need is right in front of your eyes. Make some calls before you head out and have fun.
    I saw a new post in this section and got excited, then I read it, at first I thought it would get better then your take on late 30's - mid 40's C-girl .. but it got worse, exposing are very limited depressing options out here.
    I have No info on hollywood my experience, there all b.s., but I haven't tried an amp in the valley since maybe jan - mar of this year if not 2005, I guess we have to realize sfv is to slow so vice has to slam the few that pop up, for amp service it use to be Inglewood, but that took a shit as well, Still confused as to the big deal amps are, I am of the opinion that they should be left alone. But who am I. Thanks for the post's fedex, I remember an old old old place near the outskirts of downtown in the shadows of city hall which had very young thin pretty asian latina girls maybe 3-5 years ago, I may have to head down there soon and report back to those trusted members, the place looked so legit, I was sure nothing was happening, but it was =)

  13. #24
    Senior Member


    Posts: 101

    CAMP & KAMP in the SFV

    Here's an advice to the SFV mongers:

    Call the AMP in advance and ask if they have C-girls or K-girls. If it's a CAMP, bring your own cover and if you play your cards right, you may get a quick cbj from a late 30's - mid 40's C-girl for $40 + $60 (some will want more tip, but will take $60). Mostly you will get a HJ - to tip or not to tip is up to you.

    If it's a KAMP, most likely you can get a rushed, unenthusiastic FS from a
    45 - 55 y.o. K-lady in a room with big windows on the door. Entry will probably be $50 and the old hags will ask for $100 - $120 for the 1/2 ass service with their worn out bodies. Don't even ask for DFK... These providers used to be hot in the '70's... LOL

    Take your game to the SGV, Oxnard or Hollywood / West Hollywood areas. Get a copy of the L.A. Weekly or the L.A. Xpress, read the corresponding boards on this fine California forum and everything you need is right in front of your eyes. Make some calls before you head out and have fun.

    The SFV is dead - we have buried it in late 2004 with the demise of Topanga Therapy, may it rest in peace...

    Just my 2 cents
    Fedex


    Quote Originally Posted by stevelee333
    I went to one near Topanga and was greeted by a girl who I would rate 3. Seriously thought about bailing out but stayed to see if I could get a good massage at least.

    What a mistake! The massage was terrible. She just rubbed her hands with some lotion on my back. After the flip she asked if I wanted anything else. We agreed on the most simple method and she went to work. I just finished as soon as possbile and took off. On my way out she said to bring my own supply if I wanted more. I thought to myself NO WAY I'm coming back.

  14. #23

    Any Ho's in NoHo AMPs?

    I am seeing tons of new places popping up. Historically, NoHo has been sub-par and mostly legit.

    Any info for a senior member would be appreciated... THX

  15. #22

    R & D

    Mongers,

    Yesterday, Friday, I had a funny experience. Long story short. I put some recent research to good use. I got free from my work in the early evening. I had seen regular, non pro, hotties all over the SFV during the week as I did my missions... So I was pent up for sure! I checked my $$$ 160. What could I do? It was just past 7pm.

    I used my phone to call some #s I had harvested from the LA Weekly. Lots of choices... I started w/a place off of Victory & Tampa. Its called Asian therapy. I call the mama san she says 2 girls working mimi & lulu. Sweet I say to myself. And w/that I pop a Vit V. I get there and its still looking good. Like the old Chiropractic place off of Reseda & Roscoe (Remember that place ER2). So I'm inside and it turns out only Mimi is there and she is fat. I get naked and she acts cool. Yet, she really just wants to give me a massage. Period. So I get dressed, get my money back and bail. F**king waste of time!

    Now I am focused. And working against the clock. Tick, tick, tick... I call Oriental therapy off of Reseda & Victory. Closed for more than a week now. I'm thinking BUSTED. So I call Pacific care, the old Joy therapy in Van Nuys, and they are open. I get there and I see a hot latina in back of the reception area. I'm thinking sweet. NOT! I get to my room and get the line up. 2 fat latinas. WTF? I ask dude he says the one I want her shift is over. Bummer. So I pick the thinner one and get naked. She freaks and tells me only aromatherapy no massage. I cut my losses tell her no thanks and get my $$$ back from dude. I dont need scented oils I need sex. I almost miss Rainbow therapy at this point.

    In my ride I call Victory's therapy off of SB & Vanowen. Only aromatherapy. No massage offered. I say thanks and hang up. This is sucking. And I'm getting horny and harder by the minute.

    So I call a place in NOHO off of Riverside. Its after 9pm now. Mama san answers. I ask "how many girls working?" "5 girls you come quick." I say "I'll be there by 9:30 please dont close." So I jam over from Van Nuys via Riverside due east... I make it to the area by 9:28pm. After calling mama san back for some help locating their lair I get inside by 9:35. Mama san is gracious and all smiles. She says "YOU made it." I get a big, big, big room. Seriously, I could have entertained all 5 girls by myself in that space. I get Dani. She is thick but mama san says she has a great personality. And she does. I have less than 30 minutes left. So I get a wicked hand job and prostrate massage. And I splatted her hands and chest for her effort! "Oh YOU cum so big. Lots of messy on me..." I laugh w/her and she gets hot towels for us both. I like this place it could be good w/more time and a few more visits.

    So now I am relieved. Some what relieved. I get in my ride and head back west and finally get off of Riverside and take the 101 west to SB. I troll pass Hesby nada... I am still horny w/my cravings leaning towards a fine sw. I am hopeful. I always seem to find a girl when I am in this horny state of mind. I get all the way to Sherman way and I am a little...

    Okay, story continued on the sw thread

    Late, V da Sadist

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