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  1. #47
    Some of you guys are extremely nieve if you think LE relies on this board for useful intel. (keyword here being USEFUL). Besides, don't you think LE is smart enough to know that in order to get real intel here you have to post enough to become "trusted"? They're NOT idiots, and contrary to what they might want you to think, an internet forum isn't going to be their prime source of intel when they have hundreds of officers interacting with hundreds of girls/jons on the street every day. I'm not advocating open availability of providers' info, I just think some of you on this board might have somewhat of a false sense of security due to the PM and postcount features . I guess it all boils down to who they choose to go after. We all know LE has TONS of intel but will(can?) only investigate so much.

  2. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad De Sade
    OCA,

    Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

    Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...
    OCA = useless. OCA you remind me of Seinfeld a.k.a. Hizark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Webcams
    I disagreed with these statements in the past, but Literally all the good places are gone, Why? Who cares? What everyone here is getting at is Ya the cops will eventually shut them down, but were not gonna help them kinda like voting ya your vote doesn't matter but you might still vote.

    Example:
    Soandso
    Member 68 Posts.
    He reads a post about Suck u Hard massage on Kittridge in Van Nuys He goes in the lady doesn't do a good job he pays 100.00 and is pissed he calls the cops and tells them they provide service to be a prick, if he didn't read about he might not have found it sure other websites might post it but we are here not there, so In short we post differently now maybe we got tired of posting all the good shit that cost us $$$$$$$$$$ over the years just to see people who don't contribute use our Intel without giving something back. PM Senior Members is a good deal, but I rarely PM Fake Seniors those being members without 100 or more post's, unless I feel there posts are quality and genuine. Ya fuck it earn your stripes and then you can find out about the cool non advertised apartments and houses that have Fresh Young 18-20 year old girls Latinas Whites Blacks all kinds and charge 150 for an hour in Luxury until then your stuck reading about handjob sally at the regular amps, I got a Platinum Amex & I am happy with a s/w or an escort; earn your place
    Damn, you said it bro! I feel you on every point you made in your post. Read what Webcams said fools! The best info is shared via PM. Earn your stripes and reap the rewards.

    Joe

  3. #45

    Ya never know

    Sorry you toftt, Mike.

    That's a first: an AMP girl who let's you strip her, finger her, but won't finish the deed! I never would have guessed that my girl would have drawn that kinda line.

    FT

  4. #44

    Don't bother

    I went here on Saturday afternoon and the place was dead. I was let in by a very nice and friendly Chinese lady and led to a room. I told her I wanted the hour for 60 with the table shower, I love those. She asked me to undress as she left to go get the room ready. The table shower was nice and she washed everything and dried me off then back to the room and she left.
    A knock at the door and another lady came in. She was Chinese, 27 years old, from San Francisco, nice little body and very friendly and flirty.
    As she got me worked up I started to undress her and she never stopped me so I kept going until she was naked. I fingered her, kissed her tits and then I lifted her onto the table tried to get it inside her. At this point she made it clear that that was not an option and she asked if I had protection, which I did, and offered a BJ. In the end she wanted 100 for a CBJ and she would not budge. I told her no thank you just finish the massage. She did finish the massage and kept messing with me trying to get me to change my mind. It was fun and she was a real tease. She got me dressed and walked me to the front door where the other lady was waiting. I got a big hug from both of them and left. I didn't even leave a tip and not a word was said.



    Quote Originally Posted by Friendly Tiger
    This CMP has brought in female "marketeers" from SF. They'll be here about a week. My guess is they'll do everything, and leave the tip up to you. I think they just want to quickly develop happy customers.

    I was just checkin' out the place and wasn't going to stay for a massage, but...

    ...the Chinese girl grabbed me by the hand and pulled me into a room, before I could back out. I thought, what the hell, I'll check out this place, from the inside. LOL

    She knew her way around a man's body, that's for sure. Turns out she's from SF. She has an average face, but very nice, natural B's/C's, and a very cute butt.

    I didn't want to mislead her, so I told her that I will come back to see her again before she goes home to SF, because I didn't have $ for fun tonight. But she continued with the sensual touches, and oiled up the tiger cub and off to the manual races. She allowed me to pet her kitty, inside and out. I shot and left her what little remained in my wallet.

    Only pm me if you already know me or if you include a worthwhile review with contact info.

  5. #43
    Senior Member


    Posts: 101
    Sunday 12:15pm

    Just called the place and again, Lisa is not working. Only available is Cindy (reviewed earlier) & Sophie (unknown). Will pass.

    Lots of places are popping up in the LA weekly lately with locations in thw west SFV, but I'm skeptic.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReallyaNiceGuy
    I called last night and Lisa was not working but I went anyways. What a mistake. I got a woman that was overweight and like 40 plus. Nothing exciting on the back side and after the flip she started a little rubbing and asked if I wanted a HJ and I told her sure. She then asked how much and I told her nothing and said I was ready to leave. She said stay and wanted to work out a deal. Well after going back and forth awhile it was clear FS was not an option and a HJ was 60 but she would take off her clothes and I could only touch her. I told her no thank you and got up and got dressed. While I was dressing I asked her questions and she was sure that no one was giving FS at these places. And the lady running it had several others places around the valley and the LA area.

    Next time I will ask where Lisa is working and go there.

    Mike

  6. #42

    No details

    I haven't posted much of late, simply because it DOES seem to lead to my favorites being closed down. In fact, every time I see some sort of details posted here, I know that the place mentioned will be closed soon. I figure the CAMP mentioned below is next. Too bad, I had a good time there.

    If you think LE doesn't watch this forum, you're unbelievably naive. Apparently LA LE doesn't care to be interviewed about it, but other PDs in other towns have been, and they admit to getting leads from these forums. I can't believe LA is an exception.

    Pickings in the Valley are too slim as it is. We may not know for sure who can be trusted and who can't, but we can make our best effort.

  7. #41

    Posting Full Details on Public Boards

    I think it is fool-hearty to post full details on ANY public board.

    I believe that "friends" look out for "friends". I'll take prudent steps to protect my "friends" from LE, ROB's, and jerks. Less security = less details, and conversely, higher security = more details. JMO

  8. #40

    Woodland Hills CAMP - My update

    I called last night and Lisa was not working but I went anyways. What a mistake. I got a woman that was overweight and like 40 plus. Nothing exciting on the back side and after the flip she started a little rubbing and asked if I wanted a HJ and I told her sure. She then asked how much and I told her nothing and said I was ready to leave. She said stay and wanted to work out a deal. Well after going back and forth awhile it was clear FS was not an option and a HJ was 60 but she would take off her clothes and I could only touch her. I told her no thank you and got up and got dressed. While I was dressing I asked her questions and she was sure that no one was giving FS at these places. And the lady running it had several others places around the valley and the LA area.

    Next time I will ask where Lisa is working and go there.

    Mike

  9. #39
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1356

    Billboards

    Quote Originally Posted by FedEx
    We have put everything in the open in the past, and now we have nothing in the SFV..........

    If anyone has a problem with that, they are either newbies, LE, or do not understand the way the game is played now. It's a totally different ballgame!
    I disagreed with these statements in the past, but Literally all the good places are gone, Why? Who cares? What everyone here is getting at is Ya the cops will eventually shut them down, but were not gonna help them kinda like voting ya your vote doesn't matter but you might still vote.

    Example:
    Soandso
    Member 68 Posts.
    He reads a post about Suck u Hard massage on Kittridge in Van Nuys He goes in the lady doesn't do a good job he pays 100.00 and is pissed he calls the cops and tells them they provide service to be a prick, if he didn't read about he might not have found it sure other websites might post it but we are here not there, so In short we post differently now maybe we got tired of posting all the good shit that cost us $$$$$$$$$$ over the years just to see people who don't contribute use our Intel without giving something back. PM Senior Members is a good deal, but I rarely PM Fake Seniors those being members without 100 or more post's, unless I feel there posts are quality and genuine. Ya fuck it earn your stripes and then you can find out about the cool non advertised apartments and houses that have Fresh Young 18-20 year old girls Latinas Whites Blacks all kinds and charge 150 for an hour in Luxury until then your stuck reading about handjob sally at the regular amps, I got a Platinum Amex & I am happy with a s/w or an escort; earn your place

  10. #38
    Senior Member


    Posts: 101
    OC Amper,

    The simple rule of the thumb here - especially after the AMP disappearance act from the SFV and now from Da Wood - is: "Better be safe than sorry".

    It's gonna make it harder on the newbies, so what? If you have earned your senior stripes, you probably have contributed before and you may be trusted.

    We have put everything in the open in the past, and now we have nothing in the SFV. So we must retreat, regroup and use caution. Putting everything in the open came back to bite us in the butt, so if we try the PM system to only trusted senior members, we may enjoy some new places & providers that may pop up ocassionally here and there.

    If anyone has a problem with that, they are either newbies, LE, or do not understand the way the game is played now. It's a totally different ballgame!

    Just my 2 cents,
    Fedex


    Quote Originally Posted by Oc Amper
    There are very few people willing to think about these issues and then comment upon them.
    I am sure that we have some legal professionals, whether it be an attorney, police officers that are here for their own personal needs or what ever.
    If you do have extended knowledge of the laws, and how postings here might be used or why they couldn't be used, we'd all love to hear about it.

    As far as the current debate, Vlad De Sade and I have very different views on the subject. That is alright.

    Rather than carry on a long and drawn-out thread that is likely to bore everyone, since no one else comments, why don't we think about how we can change the current situation. Whether it be legalization or legislation, we do need to come up with a plan. This is one point that we all probably agree on.

    If you have ideas on how to carry out this plan, I'm sure that this would be a lively conversation. One that we all would be willing to carry on.

  11. #37

    Upside/downside to posting

    Quote Originally Posted by Webcams
    I got to chime in quickly, I use to belive it was ok to post everything out for everyone to see, that was why we have this board, and slowly but surely everything was closed, now I am of the opinion that pm the details is much better then posting it out for everyone to see, sure le could be a senior member with 1500 post's, but the chances are slim, LE use this board? Maybe but why risk it? why give out intel to someone who hasn't provided anything themselves? can post's on this board be use din a court of law, maybe to obtain proable cause to search a place, against a monger I doubt it, but with the current enviroment against privacy and freedom of speech I would not want to risk it. Simply put it ain't worth posting details what's the payoff? s/w's and strippers amps etc are diffrent s/w's are fluid they move from place to place amps can't, it makes them an easy target for le to bust. ok to post very vaugue details but don't get specific it's just not worth it.
    The upside to posting about anything is that everyone gets the info - newbies and non-senior members are not left out. I don't get the comment above that "everything was closed". There are tons of places open despite many, many posts on this board and even more so on others. You guys who think there is info here - check out the mp reviews website (hope it's OK to post this). There has been tremendously detailed info there for years and these places are still open.

    Look, OCAMPer and I have posted the arguments for posting details and that doing so does not tell LE anything that they don't know already - look up my posts on Orange County MP thread, including details of my discussion with a former LE. It is apparent that some people just don't want to research the other boards I'm talking about and/or cannot think rationally. I guess we'll just have to do without info from you guys who are irrational about this. I get most of my info and primarily post on the other website anyway, but it would be nice if people would share here also.

  12. #36
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1356

    Laws and intent and secrecy

    I got to chime in quickly, I use to belive it was ok to post everything out for everyone to see, that was why we have this board, and slowly but surely everything was closed, now I am of the opinion that pm the details is much better then posting it out for everyone to see, sure le could be a senior member with 1500 post's, but the chances are slim, LE use this board? Maybe but why risk it? why give out intel to someone who hasn't provided anything themselves? can post's on this board be use din a court of law, maybe to obtain proable cause to search a place, against a monger I doubt it, but with the current enviroment against privacy and freedom of speech I would not want to risk it. Simply put it ain't worth posting details what's the payoff? s/w's and strippers amps etc are diffrent s/w's are fluid they move from place to place amps can't, it makes them an easy target for le to bust. ok to post very vaugue details but don't get specific it's just not worth it.

  13. #35

    You know what is disappointing

    There are very few people willing to think about these issues and then comment upon them.
    I am sure that we have some legal professionals, whether it be an attorney, police officers that are here for their own personal needs or what ever.
    If you do have extended knowledge of the laws, and how postings here might be used or why they couldn't be used, we'd all love to hear about it.

    As far as the current debate, Vlad De Sade and I have very different views on the subject. That is alright.

    Rather than carry on a long and drawn-out thread that is likely to bore everyone, since no one else comments, why don't we think about how we can change the current situation. Whether it be legalization or legislation, we do need to come up with a plan. This is one point that we all probably agree on.

    If you have ideas on how to carry out this plan, I'm sure that this would be a lively conversation. One that we all would be willing to carry on.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlad De Sade
    OCA,

    Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

    Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...

    I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...

    Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!

    Late, V da Sadist
    What a bunch of babble. Just because I disagree with your strategy, you resort to a senseless attack, and encourage a barrage of PM's. Senseless. I suppose that really shows your state of mind.

    The truth of the matter, as I have an interest in this subject I have bothered to do some research. Nearly all of it available via google, sure, I did open a Pacer account so that I could observe the pending case against Mao and company. Everything else, you can find on your own using your favorite search engine. I encourage you to do so. The articles you will find will really open your eyes. You will find that LE in many municipalities basically tolerates MP's, for what ever reason. When they get their marching orders, they will close down a shop. Otherwise, how could you possibly explain cities like Inglewood. They have several AMP's that have been open for nearly 10 years plus. Sure, a number of them closed recently, but not due to local LE.

    As far as LE goes, they don't need this forum. In fact, they really don't need any forum, but there are other forums that provide similiar info. If its simply a matter of principal, then sure not posting the info works to a degree, but only to serve your own principals. If you think that strategy is actually going to work and protect these places, then I am not the one that is delusional. You would be totally ignoring these other forums that are providing info.

  15. #33

    Trusted

    OCA,

    Bro, YOU are not trusted. I am so tired of your rants...

    Seriously, a trusted member is a fellow monger who has over the MONTHS & YEARS exchanged quality, reliable, accurate and real intel w/me VIA THE PM FEATURE. This is so simple why do I even attempt to educate YOU. Please, fellow mongers send OCA a barrage of PM's expaining how this all works. We all know LE is here. If YOU dont believe it yourself YOU are delusional. All YOU got to do is read back in the SFV archives, 2001-2002, to read posts by Anon, LE watcher, etc...

    I dont want to make it any easier for LE or idiot mongers on this board. I believe YOU are both! YOU always talk about law links, law cases, court houses, penal codes, LE tricks, and YOU are not able to think outside of the box. I could continue ripping on YOU but another pig who wants to be cool is just a joke! Please, be aware that your cover is blown. And if YOU were trying to hide it YOU failed. Oh yeah, if your not LE YOU are just a wanna be pig and thats bad enough...

    Okay, enough real mongers understand the game and how it is played. YOU sadly do not. I am done w/YOU and your attacks. Good luck, stay safe and have a nice day!

    Late, V da Sadist

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