General Reports

[Mr Quicky]

Tried to find any listings in casual encounters, got no results.

Yeah pretty much a ghost town.

[Marlowe]

http://www.shoppok.com/sandiego/

Is this the new beginning??

Tried to find any listings in casual encounters, got no results.

[Mr Quicky]

http://www.shoppok.com/sandiego/

Is this the new beginning??

[Lovergrrl]

Couldn't log in this morning.

List of states in drop down menu gone.

Un-befucking-lieveable.

They are back online.

Dodged a bullet, at least for now.

Carry on.

[Lovergrrl]

Couldn't log in this morning.

List of states in drop down menu gone.

Un-befucking-lieveable.

[Marlowe]

Ironic that Trump, whose name was on a modeling agency that trafficked in underage women is committed to signing this legislation.

As of today, CL no longer has its personal ads available. You get a message saying they can't take the risk due to the bill Trump has signed. One less resource available.

We aren't going anywhere.

http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds

Just saying,

A2

[Willie23]

Fwd from Dave in Phoenix. ******** is gone.

Massage and Escort sites may start shutting down as a law passed the Senate on 3/21/2018. ********.com immediately shut down.

3/21/2018 -The Senate passed the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA) in a 97-2 vote. Only Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) and Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) voted against the bill, which is also known as the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA). It already passed the House of Representatives and is expected to be signed by President Donald Trump who has expressed support for the bill. Once signed by the President websites that post prostitution ads will be committing a Federal Crime and also become open to civil lawsuits by "victims. " The bill makes no distinction between consenting adults and "sex trafficking," other than up to 10 years in prison for prostitution and 25 years for sex trafficking or if a website promotes 5 or more prostitutes. The bill says that website operators who "promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person" will no longer have the legal protections of Section 230. Violators could face fines or prison sentences of up to 25 years. The bill was spurred largely by Backpage.com, even though the site already shut down its adult advertisement section because of government pressure. Under FOSTA, any attempts by a website or app to filter out bad content could lead to more legal liability. The only way for companies to stay safe will be to entirely give up on content moderation and trying to stop illegal ads from getting through. Under FOSTA sex workers could lose their ability to find and screen clients electronically, forcing them back onto the streets or into other situations where they'll be more vulnerable to violence and exploitation. They could also lose the ability to warn each other about dangerous customers on sex-work message boards. As Alana Massey noted recently at Allure, "these bills target websites that are widely and inaccurately believed to be hubs of trafficking activity when it is precisely those websites that enable people in the sex trades to do their work safely and independently, at the same time as they make it easier for authorities to find and investigate possible trafficking cases. " In a lengthy Senate floor speech on Monday, bill sponsor Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) cited an increase in the number of "sex trafficking cases" reported to a national hotline run by Polaris Projectan entity that counts any call, text, or email as a "case" of sex trafficking (even though the vast majority are simply requests for information or unsubstantiated "tips") and that has spent the past decade lobbying for state laws requiring all sorts of businesses to post the number. "The bill really moves the ball forward on an area with strong Republican and Democratic consensus at a time of horrible partisan rancor," Mark P. Lagon, the former US ambassador-at-large to combat and monitor trafficking in persons, told CNN. As website owners get charged, it may get challenged on Freedom of Speech constitutional grounds, but that will be a long fight with web site owners potentially in prison for years while cases get challenged. The tech site gizmodo says, "The hapless members of the US Congress are good at piecemealing together legislation that makes it look like they've done something but just confuses the issue. " Dave notes according to congress. Gov, the Senate seems to have incorporated the House bill H. Are. 1865 which had minor differences from the original Senate bill, so no conference is needed. It goes directly to the President to sign. Looking at the wording of H. Are. 1865 instead of just news reports, Sec 3 (a) provides that whoever using a means of interstate or foreign commerce owns, manages or operates an interactive computer service with intent to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for not more than ten years, or both. Sec 3 (b) provides for an aggravated violation if promotes prostitution of 5 or more persons or contributes to sex trafficking faces up to 25 years in prison plus civil recovery plus mandatory restitution. Fortunately for us that enjoy Canada, Germany or most of the world where consenting adult prostitution is legal, the law provides: "(e) Affirmative Defense. --It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (a), or subsection (b)(1) where the defendant proves, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the promotion or facilitation of prostitution is legal in the jurisdiction where the promotion or facilitation was targeted. ' The law text is at https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...ext?format=txt.

Ironic that Trump, whose name was on a modeling agency that trafficked in underage women is committed to signing this legislation.

[Dorq01]

Fwd from Dave in Phoenix. ******** is gone.

Massage and Escort sites may start shutting down as a law passed the Senate on 3/21/2018. ********.com immediately shut down.

3/21/2018 -The Senate passed the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA) in a 97-2 vote. Only Sens. Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) and Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) voted against the bill, which is also known as the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking Act (FOSTA). It already passed the House of Representatives and is expected to be signed by President Donald Trump who has expressed support for the bill. Once signed by the President websites that post prostitution ads will be committing a Federal Crime and also become open to civil lawsuits by "victims. " The bill makes no distinction between consenting adults and "sex trafficking," other than up to 10 years in prison for prostitution and 25 years for sex trafficking or if a website promotes 5 or more prostitutes. The bill says that website operators who "promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person" will no longer have the legal protections of Section 230. Violators could face fines or prison sentences of up to 25 years. The bill was spurred largely by Backpage.com, even though the site already shut down its adult advertisement section because of government pressure. Under FOSTA, any attempts by a website or app to filter out bad content could lead to more legal liability. The only way for companies to stay safe will be to entirely give up on content moderation and trying to stop illegal ads from getting through. Under FOSTA sex workers could lose their ability to find and screen clients electronically, forcing them back onto the streets or into other situations where they'll be more vulnerable to violence and exploitation. They could also lose the ability to warn each other about dangerous customers on sex-work message boards. As Alana Massey noted recently at Allure, "these bills target websites that are widely and inaccurately believed to be hubs of trafficking activity when it is precisely those websites that enable people in the sex trades to do their work safely and independently, at the same time as they make it easier for authorities to find and investigate possible trafficking cases. " In a lengthy Senate floor speech on Monday, bill sponsor Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) cited an increase in the number of "sex trafficking cases" reported to a national hotline run by Polaris Project—an entity that counts any call, text, or email as a "case" of sex trafficking (even though the vast majority are simply requests for information or unsubstantiated "tips") and that has spent the past decade lobbying for state laws requiring all sorts of businesses to post the number. "The bill really moves the ball forward on an area with strong Republican and Democratic consensus at a time of horrible partisan rancor," Mark P. Lagon, the former US ambassador-at-large to combat and monitor trafficking in persons, told CNN. As website owners get charged, it may get challenged on Freedom of Speech constitutional grounds, but that will be a long fight with web site owners potentially in prison for years while cases get challenged. The tech site gizmodo says, "The hapless members of the US Congress are good at piecemealing together legislation that makes it look like they've done something but just confuses the issue. " Dave notes according to congress. Gov, the Senate seems to have incorporated the House bill H. Are. 1865 which had minor differences from the original Senate bill, so no conference is needed. It goes directly to the President to sign. Looking at the wording of H. Are. 1865 instead of just news reports, Sec 3 (a) provides that whoever using a means of interstate or foreign commerce owns, manages or operates an interactive computer service with intent to promote or facilitate the prostitution of another person shall be fined under this title, imprisoned for not more than ten years, or both. Sec 3 (b) provides for an aggravated violation if promotes prostitution of 5 or more persons or contributes to sex trafficking faces up to 25 years in prison plus civil recovery plus mandatory restitution. Fortunately for us that enjoy Canada, Germany or most of the world where consenting adult prostitution is legal, the law provides: "(e) Affirmative Defense. --It shall be an affirmative defense to a charge of violating subsection (a), or subsection (b)(1) where the defendant proves, by a preponderance of the evidence, that the promotion or facilitation of prostitution is legal in the jurisdiction where the promotion or facilitation was targeted. ' The law text is at https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...ext?format=txt.

[Lovergrrl]

I was at a southbay AMP today having my fun and I heard at least 5 or 6 other mongers (all guys) come in during my visit. It made me think about the fact that I have never heard or seen another woman customer at any of the places I frequent. It's no surprise, of course. But I did reflect on what I can do to get more ladies in as monger customers. I will have to start some serious research & recruiting.

The other observation is that when I hit the head at these places the seat is always up. Good thing I look first, lol.

[Mr Quicky]

Does anyone know what's up with CL? Got a text from one girl saying craigs doesn't work, but she doesn't reply back. It does work, but maybe 10-15 postings for half the day. Normally it's in the thousands.

[BeerGuy]

Hello, my non pro friend wants to experience a gb wed afternoon. Reasonable rates. BBBJ, cfs. No anal unless small tool. Deepthroat cimws. 23 philipina. Pm or textat 619 478 7066.

[Species]

Candy (COI) Blonde white girl. Big plastic breast and Barbie looking figure. She is very fun when you're looking for a cheap inexpensive time. Her lapdances are fun and she tried to ride you till you cream in your pants. Get her to the VIP and she provides a descent HJ but that's about all that's on the menu. Not very open when it comes to backroom deals but a very sweet girl and fun to talk to in the back couches.

Caprica (COI) Blonde white girl with large ass and hips. Small breast but is a must if you're a thigh man. Haven't really talked much as she is straight to the point, great if you're in a no BS mood. Lapdances are descent enough. VIP is a whole other story. $250 and gives amazing BBBJ. Open to swallowing and ball play. Fun girl with a nasty side.

Nicole (LA) Busty mature with big round ass. Haven't seen her in a while as she doesn't work as much as she does. But a very loving girl to talk to. She will sweet talk you and then slowly start rubbing your crotch to get you to the VIP. $220 and you can get a CBJ as you sit and she shakes her ass infront of you. $300 and she rides you up and down and kisses your neck and ears. Great mature lady with a toned body and great ass and tits.

Bella (LA) Tall white brunette with C cups. Great long legs that reel you in. Not much of a talker and kind off just tries to get you into the VIP. If you as for a lap dance she says she doesn't provide that and only does VIP. In the VIP she doesn't provide much at all. Nothing really on the menu and limited touching. Her dance is robotic and emotionless. Over all skip this chick.

Victoria (COI) Tall tan Latina with toned bimbo type body. Doesn't waste time with guys who go into clubs dresses casual. Saw plenty of guys approach her and get sent away. Got her to sit next to me and she goes to work in seeing if you got $$$ by asking about your work. In the VIP she's loads of fun but very high end. $300 for a great CBJ with her moaning and keeping eye contact. $500 and you can pound her as much you want. I noticed that we went over the 15 minute VIP time limit. Guess she must have some set up with the guys working there. Got her phone number. She works outside of the club and is makes for a great sugar baby and arm candy for parties or gatherings.

Alyssa (COI) Busty Latina bimbo. Very sweet gal to talk to. Found out we share Bdays and chatted for about 40 minutes. In the VIP she does like the abuse and been treated bad. $300 for BBBJ. She drops to her knees and takes your cock down her throat. Grab her head and face fuck her as rough as you want. She asked me to cream on her face and dropped it on her gorgeous face. I had the idea of getting the $300 and throwing it across the floor and telling her to get her cash like a * She loves been called that as she picks up her cash of the ground. On my second visit I got to invade that pussy $600. She bounces up and down and doesn't stop even after you nut. She drains you and licks your cock clean. The most amazing girl I've had at these clubs.

Forget to quote this one as well.

[Species]

I've seen this trend going on for a while now. Just to remind the newbies / big spenders here who have forgotten the 2007/2008, 2001 and many other times that the money flow doesn't last for ever and sooner or later when the next downturn hits there's going to be lots of folks wishing they had spent less and save a bit for a rainy day.

Just my. 02.

Mondo.

I have a history with the Jet Strip.

Prior to September 11, before the dark time when Jedis insured peace and justice at strip clubs, I went to the jet strip a few times. It was then run by Johnny murderer Chokemaster, and inveterate felon who liked pathetic losers.

The club was high mileage it was PL friendly and the were no cell phones to distract anybody.

I did successfully get my shit knocked out with pretty good success.

Well the other night just for tears and heartache I stopped off at the jet strip around 11 PM on a nothing weeknight. They have a free admit pass to get off the Internet so entrance was free and I then bought the world's best Sprite for six dollars. The bartender was an aging lizard woman who was actually quite nice.

There were about 6-8 guys there and the most active were these two sort of dorky guys who looked like they were on weekend leave from the coast guard and they hogged the rail like they'd never seen a pussy or grabbed one.

There were no real standouts in terms of books but no real pigeons.

The problem is that for the almost hour and a half I was there there was no single blue light special nor was there a cattle call of the girls where you can see them kind of like in a post parade at Hollywood Park. Now I get that this may be demeaning and millennial dancers will not stand for that but the customer is always right and that is that.

I had just hit the Ass to Mouth Machine and withdrew $300 was prepared to spend the entire amount, no questions asked. I didn't sit by the rail and sat one row behind and generously kept tipping three dollars from the change from my Sprite as long as a girl did not dance to some truly horrible rap song.

Almost every girl asked me for a dance but none of them really turned me on. There was one white gal, Paris, from the inbred Empire but she didn't have the smarts to realize that I was money and she was smoking with the two goofballs.

I timed the songs and they were just over 2 min, so for $30, it is a little bit out of control especially when there was no effort really to sell the dances. Plus there was this annoying floater and the funniest thing about the evening was watching his shirt come untucked until he finally gave up and let it hang out.

There is one particularly gross thing about the jet and it is the location of the shitter. I mean, it is in the very center of the club, not in the back, but right by the dance floor. It is like who the fuck puts a solid waste facility next to an adult rec area? It smells horrible every time the doors open.

The DJ is a fucken disaster, cannot understand anything he said.

I do not recommend this shithole.

Saw this on the LA stripclub tread, PL is pay way way too much for so little action. It is like paying 700 to 1000 for a BJ for one hour, 1300 to 1500 for FS for an hour. There is so much better service out there. At the low end AAMP for 160, higher end AAMP / KAMP for 260. Indie girls on BP / Eros or any escort site for 300 to 500. You will get much better service and able to take a shower before and after. Or go down to Tijuana and take a young 18 year old for the whole night for about 600.

And I do not under stand how these girls are demanding these type of prices. Every time I visit a Strip club, the girls are bitching about business is slow, no one is tipping. And yet they demand $$ for every little thing.

[Mondo72]

Walking out might give you s sense of empowerment, but unfortunately there will be someone right behind you that will pay those higher prices. The same thing is happening in stripclubs. Newbs and idiots are giving strippers ridiculous tips. It won't stop as long as there are those out there too weak to negotiate.

I've seen this trend going on for a while now. Just to remind the newbies / big spenders here who have forgotten the 2007/2008, 2001 and many other times that the money flow doesn't last for ever and sooner or later when the next downturn hits there's going to be lots of folks wishing they had spent less and save a bit for a rainy day.

Just my. 02.

Mondo.

[Lovergrrl]

Walking out might give you s sense of empowerment, but unfortunately there will be someone right behind you that will pay those higher prices. The same thing is happening in stripclubs. Newbs and idiots are giving strippers ridiculous tips. It won't stop as long as there are those out there too weak to negotiate.

Seriously MP's with their ever increasing exorbitant prices has become an epidemic. If we continue to meet them at these prices, the higher the prices continue to climb. I agree, walking out is one powerful way to counter the inflation.