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  1. #22

    Human Trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    So if we have a definition of "Human Trafficking" as:

    Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.

    https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/wh...an-trafficking

    Then perhaps there is something there that helps explain disappearance of AMPs around here?

    Have had some AMP girls, in the past, tell me they came over on a "plan" and have to pay back the boss for travel expenses. In that case, I wonder if the above definition applies?

    However, if the girls in the AMP are USA citizens and are working giving massages to pay rent, buy groceries or make car payments like you or I do, then not sure how the definition applies


    Of course we all know the public assumes EVERY girl in prostitution is "forced, defrauded or coerced" into doing dates and it appears as though the justice system blurs the line in portraying all commercial sex acts as "human trafficking. ".
    To be fair I think all of us should be concerned about the trafficking of all children boys and girls. We should also all be concerned about adults being forced into sex slavery against their will whether it is foreign or domestic originated. As such AMP get too much attention in that many if not most are staffed by willing employees. The prosecution of AMP provides the politicians with "successful" outcomes of an
    Agenda against these so-called traffickers even tho very few use children and unwilling adults. My experience and insight would suggest that very little attention is paid toward sex workers unless there is a belief that there is a strong connection to weapons and drugs to specific escorts. Also at times the nuisance the sex workers walking may create becomes a local political concern and create pressure on local law enforcement however I have not seen much of that in Pa.. It is very rare that escort "sting" operations are used nowadays. I do know Lancaster Co. Pa recently did one and netted a few mongers placing them on probation and sending them to "John School" LOL after they went to a hotel to do a date.

  2. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    Of course we all know the public assumes EVERY girl in prostitution is "forced, defrauded or coerced" into doing dates and it appears as though the justice system blurs the line in portraying all commercial sex acts as "human trafficking. ".
    You're making the mistake of thinking that logic applies in the case of politics or justice.

  3. #20

    Thinking Out Loud

    So if we have a definition of "Human Trafficking" as:

    Human trafficking involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act.

    https://www.dhs.gov/blue-campaign/wh...an-trafficking

    Then perhaps there is something there that helps explain disappearance of AMPs around here?

    Have had some AMP girls, in the past, tell me they came over on a "plan" and have to pay back the boss for travel expenses. In that case, I wonder if the above definition applies?

    However, if the girls in the AMP are USA citizens and are working giving massages to pay rent, buy groceries or make car payments like you or I do, then not sure how the definition applies?

    Of course we all know the public assumes EVERY girl in prostitution is "forced, defrauded or coerced" into doing dates and it appears as though the justice system blurs the line in portraying all commercial sex acts as "human trafficking. ".

  4. #19

    Wondering About this so called Task Force

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    Sure appears to be some low hanging fruit out there?

    I mean look at the adverts on ListCrawler / escortalligator! There are TONNES (yes metric tons) of adverts of "Latina", "Hispanic" and Colombian / Venezuelan girls listed in Newark, DE! I mean, is there some kind of MASSIVE foreign exchange program out there with Columbia where tens of girls come to U-Dee and those girls all decide to escort in order to pay tuition & living expenses?

    Or is it possible the some "outfit" is running / managing these girls? Hmmm. One of the "clues" is the 908 area code used. But some of these adverts have gotten sophisticated and use a 302 area code, but of course "fake pics" tend to out these if one knows what they are looking for.

    908 Area Code

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81761463

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81806634 929 area.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81809186

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81809158

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81812770

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81807534 929 area.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81813515

    Latina, Colombian (sic), Venezuelan (sic)

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81809410

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81809158

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81758005

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81758188

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81758263

    New to the Area, Just Arrived

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81760275

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81762135

    I mean some of the "clues" are adverts with anal in the title or prominent in the post. Most DE girls do not do that! Also, most DE girls don't post pics of their face and their legs pointed north & south, nor "action" shots! I mean Newark is over run by olive skinned & light skinned girls with dark hair, so much so that most guys with their lights on just avoid these posts.

    Of course, adverts on escortindex.com are easy to spot because the phone numbers are shown.
    Sure don't get it! The AMPs are slowly getting shutdown and LE takes victory laps. However, the Visiting Latinas / Hispanics or whatever they are called continues to operate uninhibited. Posts like those above sill clog the advertising sites. The outfit got educated and quit using only the 908 et al area codes and now uses 302#s. So the TF missed low hanging fruit. Can't figure out why the TF has done nothing about this outfit? Some theories as to why this might be:

    1. Task Force is too inept to do anything about girls obvious brought to the area, from south of the boarder, for prostitution purposes.

    2. TF is too lazy to do anything but the fixed location outfits. It would be too much trouble to attack the places that operate out of hotels.

    3. TF is biased against Asians and thus wants to shut them all down.

    4. Someone on the TF is protecting the Hispanic outfit, or profiting from such.

    What a shame the the TF can't really do something about Human trafficking from south of the boarder. It's an embarrassment the way they have proceeded.

  5. #18

    Hey. . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    I don't get where you get the undercover, free are&T and charging a patron stuff, from my read of the article?

    Police have shut down an unlicensed massage business on Elkton Road that was allegedly offering sex acts for money, authorities said.

    The business is located at 1164 Elkton Road, a few hundred feet from the state line. The building is an old house that was converted to office space, and there is a small sign on the front reading Nice Beauty Spa. Signs in the window feature stock photos of people getting a massage, and a paper on the door reads By appointment only and provides a phone number to call.


    Is / was there there more that has been truncated or another article somewheres else?

    General comments:

    1) Hard to tell if undercover was nude or not, OR if they just were in their drawers and negotiated before the rub. Is it also possible LE used an informant?.
    You took my Planning Line.

    Exactly, they gave up information.

    I hope people realize the boys only work 8-4:30 M-F and being warmer weather, not happening on a Monday or Friday and in general not after 1:00 (too much paperwork).

    While not hard fast procedure, that is what occurs.

    This incident with a customer is not what has been happening recently.

  6. #17

    Nice Beauty Spa, Newark-Elkton Rd CLOSED

    Quote Originally Posted by Afraven  [View Original Post]
    I read this and can't understand how "undercover" can get a case, unless they are taking off all their clothes off. The girls should know who to offer services too and it normally is a nude client or during table shower. I call a foul on the cops getting a free are&T. Also, I see they charged a patron, that to don't add up. Unless they got the girls to turn. Just my thoughts.
    I don't get where you get the undercover, free are&T and charging a patron stuff, from my read of the article?

    Police have shut down an unlicensed massage business on Elkton Road that was allegedly offering sex acts for money, authorities said.

    The business is located at 1164 Elkton Road, a few hundred feet from the state line. The building is an old house that was converted to office space, and there is a small sign on the front reading “Nice Beauty Spa.” Signs in the window feature stock photos of people getting a massage, and a paper on the door reads “By appointment only” and provides a phone number to call.


    Is / was there there more that has been truncated or another article somewheres else?

    General comments:

    1) Hard to tell if undercover was nude or not, OR if they just were in their drawers and negotiated before the rub. Is it also possible LE used an informant?

    2) How the heck does a Monger get arrested? Only thing I can think of is the dude opened his mouth and admitted to P2 P.

    Remember you are there for a massage which is legit. Anything that happens after that is between two consenting adults. DON'T talk to LE! Once a legit service is paid for, it clouds legally the line and gives your attorney a leg to stand on. But opening you mouth and giving up your 5th amendment rights, by confessing to or admitting to a crime is final. Yer done!

    Mongers don't plan to fail, they just fail to plan! And that means getting an education on ALL aspects of the hobby.

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Afraven  [View Original Post]
    I read this and can't understand how "undercover" can get a case, unless they are taking off all their clothes off. The girls should know who to offer services too and it normally is a nude client or during table shower. I call a foul on the cops getting a free are&T. Also, I see they charged a patron, that to don't add up. Unless they got the girls to turn. Just my thoughts.
    While uncommon, I've read many times its perfectly legal for cops to go as far as they need to in these stings.

  8. #15

    Baffled

    I read this and can't understand how "undercover" can get a case, unless they are taking off all their clothes off. The girls should know who to offer services too and it normally is a nude client or during table shower. I call a foul on the cops getting a free are&T. Also, I see they charged a patron, that to don't add up. Unless they got the girls to turn. Just my thoughts.

  9. #14

  10. #13

    "Slow and Steady Wins the Race"

    The current tactic seems to be making progress. A semi-friendly meet and greet to see things their way an move on or encounter problems.

    In the next 90-days we will have lost another in NCC (appears this way, unless the menu changes).

    It seems Philly is the only viable Asian option now as NJ quality has taken a hit lately.

    If it was truly a trafficking concern then the Border Crossers would be high on the radar.

  11. #12

    Bust

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for posting this and your continued vigilance toward this topic! Great info for others to know, so glad you are sharing what you find! Not sure how long that link will be valid, so I'll post the article.

    **************************************

    3 indicted for human trafficking, tax fraud, prostitution in Wilmington, Newark area
    Hannah XYZABC
    Delaware News Journal
    March 2, 2023



    Three people have been indicted on human trafficking charges in the Wilmington and Newark areas, the Department of Justice announced Thursday.

    The trio was charged with racketeering, money laundering, conspiracy and promoting prostitution for their operation of "illicit massage establishments" across northern Delaware.

    Court documents show that the group has been operating a "criminal enterprise" in Delaware for about 10 years. The FBI and Delaware State Police began an undercover investigation at three of the group's massage parlors in late 2022, according to records.

    When the agents and officers would go in posing as customers, they were offered sexual stimulation during their massages in exchange for extra money, court documents state.

    The women giving the massages were trafficked by the group, the Department of Justice said, and were forced to work long hours and live in unsanitary conditions.

    "Some people assume human trafficking only happens on the other side of the world, but the reality is that it is right in our backyard and cases like these are just the tip of the iceberg," said Delaware Attorney General Kathy Jennings in an official statement.

    The Feb. 27 indictment specifically focuses on the date range of March 2020 to February 2023, as it's when some members of the group began lying to receive government benefits.

    According to the indictment, one person in the trio claimed a massage parlor had closed because of the pandemic and was given over $25,000 in unemployment benefits from the Department of Labor. She used that same claim to apply for and receive Medicaid, too, according to prosecutors.

    In reality, police found about $200,000 in suspected proceeds from her illegal business across multiple bank accounts, according to the Department of Justice. The money has since been frozen.

    *******************************

    Interesting they didn't name the establishments and pretty light on details.

    I'm not fussed over the scam about Gov't money. PPP was a joke, anybody who could fill out the form got "free money" as it seems there was no investigation into IF a claim was legit or not. Apparently there is no investigation, nor recovery process going on these days when obvious fraud is found.*** This is what the LE does, heap as many charges as possible on a suspect.

    *** at least a half dozen admitted to PPP scams on season 1 of Judge Judy's new show, fwiw.
    It was Bloom Head-to-Toe at 26 xx Kirkwood Highway near Newark, Rainbow 7 Spa at 6 xx Capitol Trail near Newark, and Royal 7 Spa at 7 xx Pulaski Highway, Bear.

  12. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by JRichard  [View Original Post]
    Not many details to determine the locations that were impacted by this.

    I am curious if this has anything to do with three or four closers on the Pike that we were all saddened about.

    https://www.delawareonline.com/story...d/69963996007/

    I think the key word in the statement is "Across" and establishment is plural.

    "The trio was charged with racketeering, money laundering, conspiracy and promoting prostitution for their operation of "illicit massage establishments" across northern Delaware."
    Thanks for posting this and your continued vigilance toward this topic! Great info for others to know, so glad you are sharing what you find! Not sure how long that link will be valid, so I'll post the article.

    **************************************

    3 indicted for human trafficking, tax fraud, prostitution in Wilmington, Newark area
    Hannah XYZABC
    Delaware News Journal
    March 2, 2023



    Three people have been indicted on human trafficking charges in the Wilmington and Newark areas, the Department of Justice announced Thursday.

    The trio was charged with racketeering, money laundering, conspiracy and promoting prostitution for their operation of "illicit massage establishments" across northern Delaware.

    Court documents show that the group has been operating a "criminal enterprise" in Delaware for about 10 years. The FBI and Delaware State Police began an undercover investigation at three of the group's massage parlors in late 2022, according to records.

    When the agents and officers would go in posing as customers, they were offered sexual stimulation during their massages in exchange for extra money, court documents state.

    The women giving the massages were trafficked by the group, the Department of Justice said, and were forced to work long hours and live in unsanitary conditions.

    "Some people assume human trafficking only happens on the other side of the world, but the reality is that it is right in our backyard and cases like these are just the tip of the iceberg," said Delaware Attorney General Kathy Jennings in an official statement.

    The Feb. 27 indictment specifically focuses on the date range of March 2020 to February 2023, as it's when some members of the group began lying to receive government benefits.

    According to the indictment, one person in the trio claimed a massage parlor had closed because of the pandemic and was given over $25,000 in unemployment benefits from the Department of Labor. She used that same claim to apply for and receive Medicaid, too, according to prosecutors.

    In reality, police found about $200,000 in suspected proceeds from her illegal business across multiple bank accounts, according to the Department of Justice. The money has since been frozen.

    *******************************

    Interesting they didn't name the establishments and pretty light on details.

    I'm not fussed over the scam about Gov't money. PPP was a joke, anybody who could fill out the form got "free money" as it seems there was no investigation into IF a claim was legit or not. Apparently there is no investigation, nor recovery process going on these days when obvious fraud is found.*** This is what the LE does, heap as many charges as possible on a suspect.

    *** at least a half dozen admitted to PPP scams on season 1 of Judge Judy's new show, fwiw.

  13. #10

    Not many. . .

    Not many details to determine the locations that were impacted by this.

    I am curious if this has anything to do with three or four closers on the Pike that we were all saddened about.

    https://www.delawareonline.com/story...d/69963996007/

    I think the key word in the statement is "Across" and establishment is plural.

    "The trio was charged with racketeering, money laundering, conspiracy and promoting prostitution for their operation of "illicit massage establishments" across northern Delaware."

  14. #9

    Hotels / Motels

    At an event this week and in the next meeting room an employee training was taking place which lasted four hours. Then in the afternoon they had a repeat for other staff not in attendance.

    https://cr.hilton.com/wp-content/upl...ement-2020.pdf

    Being curious I went into the room and stood in the back. At the time they were talking about other hotel chains and how they are networking and sharing employee training resources.

    One of those mentioned was Red Roof. I found that interesting given the (lower) room rates and utilization of RR by many providers.

    Just thought I would throw it out there for some of those higf traffic rooms / locations.

  15. #8
    I love the ad that reads.

    Anal sex bare back&cream pie&no raw sex big.

    Botty, big titis, available only cash.

    908-291-2XXX.

    How are "bare back" and "cream pie" compatible with "no raw sex"? LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shampoo55  [View Original Post]
    Sure appears to be some low hanging fruit out there?

    I mean look at the adverts on ListCrawler / escortalligator! There are TONNES (yes metric tons) of adverts of "Latina", "Hispanic" and Colombian / Venezuelan girls listed in Newark, DE! I mean, is there some kind of MASSIVE foreign exchange program out there with Columbia where tens of girls come to U-Dee and those girls all decide to escort in order to pay tuition & living expenses?

    Or is it possible the some "outfit" is running / managing these girls? Hmmm. One of the "clues" is the 908 area code used. But some of these adverts have gotten sophisticated and use a 302 area code, but of course "fake pics" tend to out these if one knows what they are looking for.

    908 Area Code

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81761463

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...tonde/81806634 929 area.

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