General Reports

**Jrbigfish** · 03-07-13 22:07

Originally Posted by Jerry Ll [View Original Post]

I don't know first hand but there was talk that this manager also made videos without the mongers knowledge. I assume the providers knew about the taping.

That is true.

**Jerry Ll** · 03-07-13 20:51

Originally Posted by Jrbigfish [View Original Post]

From what I understand what happened in the LUVSGFE bust is the following. The LUVSGFE girls had a male friend probably a monger, manager, or pimp, which is all the same to me. Because his ego got in to his head because he thought that he was in charge of such group of girls he started keeping notes of the LUVSGFE visitors, name, address, phone number, work, work number, email, and so on. The guy got arrested by some other situation and LEO found the note book on his position that now is property of LEO and went in to investigation and that is how LEO got to this forum. That is why is not smart to visit a monger house for an appointment. It has happened before the neighbors complain and LEO starts investigating. For a provider is not safe to stay in the same location for more than a week. Lets say a monger provides his place for the providers for some affection. Lets say this monger starts taking pictures of the providers with his cell phone. Lets say that this guy gets pull over for a DUI or arrested for some other reason. Lets say that the LEO goes through his cell phone files and starts seeing pictures of different naked girls in the same house and so on. LEO is going to investigate more into detail the photos and girls. In Florida there is a law that if more than six woman cannot live under the same roof because it could be a cabaret of some kind. So now our friend monger becomes a pimp and LEO sits him down for some questions and makes him sweat and he cracks.

Like I said before this has happened before in Brevard County years ago and some provider friends of mine that used their apartment for their appointment. The best thing for all of us to stay mobile. My provider friends used their apartment for their appointments they even provided to the apartment complex workers and they still got a visit from LEO. This girls where top of the line providers no drugs, no pimps, no drama, just come in and enjoy. All these girls did was work out and provide so yes they were hot and young.

Additionally lets say you make a review of a provider and post a picture of her in the forum. So, you are safe but her picture will be always in the Internet, which it means is public property. Later this girl becomes a mother and in some way this picture comes back to hunt her. What could happen to her and her family because some selfish monger decided to show his most recent trophy?

Some people don't like my comments but I got 100 s of PM complementing about my comments so I guess I'm doing something right.

Yes you could say that you are lying but what are you going to tell you wife, and how are you going to bring a court excuse to work?

I don't know first hand but there was talk that this manager also made videos without the mongers knowledge. I assume the providers knew about the taping.

**Jrbigfish** · 03-07-13 19:04

From what I understand what happened in the LUVSGFE bust is the following. The LUVSGFE girls had a male friend probably a monger, manager, or pimp, which is all the same to me. Because his ego got in to his head because he thought that he was in charge of such group of girls he started keeping notes of the LUVSGFE visitors, name, address, phone number, work, work number, email, and so on. The guy got arrested by some other situation and LEO found the note book on his position that now is property of LEO and went in to investigation and that is how LEO got to this forum. That is why is not smart to visit a monger house for an appointment. It has happened before the neighbors complain and LEO starts investigating. For a provider is not safe to stay in the same location for more than a week. Lets say a monger provides his place for the providers for some affection. Lets say this monger starts taking pictures of the providers with his cell phone. Lets say that this guy gets pull over for a DUI or arrested for some other reason. Lets say that the LEO goes through his cell phone files and starts seeing pictures of different naked girls in the same house and so on. LEO is going to investigate more into detail the photos and girls. In Florida there is a law that if more than six woman cannot live under the same roof because it could be a cabaret of some kind. So now our friend monger becomes a pimp and LEO sits him down for some questions and makes him sweat and he cracks.

Like I said before this has happened before in Brevard County years ago and some provider friends of mine that used their apartment for their appointment. The best thing for all of us to stay mobile. My provider friends used their apartment for their appointments they even provided to the apartment complex workers and they still got a visit from LEO. This girls where top of the line providers no drugs, no pimps, no drama, just come in and enjoy. All these girls did was work out and provide so yes they were hot and young.

Additionally lets say you make a review of a provider and post a picture of her in the forum. So, you are safe but her picture will be always in the Internet, which it means is public property. Later this girl becomes a mother and in some way this picture comes back to hunt her. What could happen to her and her family because some selfish monger decided to show his most recent trophy?

Some people don't like my comments but I got 100 s of PM complementing about my comments so I guess I'm doing something right.

Yes you could say that you are lying but what are you going to tell you wife, and how are you going to bring a court excuse to work?

**Barolo** · 03-07-13 17:42

Originally Posted by Hotrodvfr [View Original Post]

OK you took a different take out on it than I had. I viewed through the lenses of 'your graphic review got my favorite girl busted'. No it didn't. Now you seem to take the evidence against the monger. In which case you're if they can establish what your handle tie it to your real name, establish that ni one else had access to the account then yes it could be used against and it would be bad. Now its technically possible for the cops to do all those things. Possible but extremely difficult. For a misdemeanor prostitution charge, ni&357; worth the effort to the cops.

These reports are hearsay! Hearsay can't be used as evidence against someone. There is no way to prove it actually happened unless they can put the author on the witness stand!

**Admin2** · 03-07-13 17:18

Originally Posted by Ftguy68 [View Original Post]

Jackson has spoken about this before. These servers are held in another country, and could never be subpoenaed

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Hi guys,

A forum member contacted me to express his concerns that this report contains too much information and thus could somehow be used by LE. Just to put this in perspective:

1. Please don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website.

2. No Forum Member had ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted this website or requested any information from me about any Forum Member, and they never will because the Forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely beyond the reach of the USA court system.

5. Nobody who works for the forum is in the USA.

Thanks,

Jackson

**RatFish** · 03-07-13 16:50

Has any one tried this place?

http://orlando.backpage.com/Therapeu...10-off/7707414

If not, I'll give it a shot, just didn't want to duplicate a failed effort if it was already tested.

**Hotrodvfr** · 03-07-13 16:49

OK you took a different take out on it than I had. I viewed through the lenses of 'your graphic review got my favorite girl busted'. No it didn't. Now you seem to take the evidence against the monger. In which case you're if they can establish what your handle tie it to your real name, establish that ni one else had access to the account then yes it could be used against and it would be bad. Now its technically possible for the cops to do all those things. Possible but extremely difficult. For a misdemeanor prostitution charge, ni&357; worth the effort to the cops.

Originally Posted by Plzd269 [View Original Post]

I have no first hand knowledge that LEO can use post on this board as court room evidence, however it does seem reasonable that they could subpoena board post and present them to the court as evidence. At this point if you plead not guilty you will be judged by your peers whom may or may not see things your way. I am just saying a guy who leaves an detailed review of a provider along with photos is taking more of a risk In a jury setting then a guy who just leaves a review with no photos. In the end it boils down to reasonable doubt and we all know how well that played out for Casey Anthony. Just my two cents.

**Hotrodvfr** · 03-07-13 16:40

Víno you're a buddy of mine but its time for a little education. What is in the luvsgfe file is a bunch of Crap MBI threw together to support probable cause not evidence. When old Bird goes to trial that will have zero bearing in determining his guilt or innocence. What it was is a political document saying I spent months investigating and look at this big pile of stuff I have see my budget is justified. It was also known that the media would take an interest in this case and just used to embarrass people. But in an actual court it means jack. Basic problem with is there us ni way to establish the accuracy of. Just because Fishboy says girl x did why and z doesn't mean, it happened. Hell we all know people lie on the board. Just showing the advertising would have been enough.

This is a prime example of why if busted people shouldn't say shit until they talk to a lawyer. The cops do this we know x, why, and z routine to get people to incriminate themselves. But in actuality what the have or 'know' doesn't mean shit in a court of law. People need to know and understand their rights and the law. Cops count ob your ignorance. Don't trust me, talk to lawyer friends, do your own research.

Originally Posted by Vino 7373 [View Original Post]

Anyone that read the 53 page court documents for LUVSGFE can attest to this. There were reviews on certain girls from The OthER forum that were indeed, included and submitted as evidence.

**Ftguy68** · 03-07-13 13:20

Originally Posted by Plzd269 [View Original Post]

I have no first hand knowledge that LEO can use post on this board as court room evidence, however it does seem reasonable that they could subpoena board post and present them to the court as evidence. At this point if you plead not guilty you will be judged by your peers whom may or may not see things your way. I am just saying a guy who leaves an detailed review of a provider along with photos is taking more of a risk In a jury setting then a guy who just leaves a review with no photos. In the end it boils down to reasonable doubt and we all know how well that played out for Casey Anthony. Just my two cents.

Jackson has spoken about this before. These servers are held in another country, and could never be subpoenaed.

**Vino 7373** · 03-07-13 12:40

Anyone that read the 53 page court documents for LUVSGFE can attest to this. There were reviews on certain girls from The OthER forum that were indeed, included and submitted as evidence.

**Plzd269** · 03-07-13 11:06

I have no first hand knowledge that LEO can use post on this board as court room evidence, however it does seem reasonable that they could subpoena board post and present them to the court as evidence. At this point if you plead not guilty you will be judged by your peers whom may or may not see things your way. I am just saying a guy who leaves an detailed review of a provider along with photos is taking more of a risk In a jury setting then a guy who just leaves a review with no photos. In the end it boils down to reasonable doubt and we all know how well that played out for Casey Anthony. Just my two cents.

**Tasteless** · 03-07-13 09:38

Originally Posted by Jrbigfish [View Original Post]

Your last post was that you where going to the club but never got a response from you did you make the trip or you didn't did you make the trip and didn't came back or you just want to keep it to your self?

I ended up going to the inner room. Stephanie wasn't working the day I went.

**Hotrodvfr** · 03-07-13 08:32

If your implying I'm a fake you can go take a long walk on a short pier skippy. I've been around these parts for years and if you checked my posting history you'd know that. I don't blow up the board with posts because I only post when I have something I think may be useful to others. If someone asks a question I will respond if I have some info. I don't post me too reviews because I find them rather pointless. Generally I only review new girls if the experience was exceptionally good or exceptionally bad. If an experience is Meh I leave it only and chalk it up to YMMV and will only comment publicly on it in response to an inquiry. Most new encounters are pretty blah so not that much ti post about. I like a particular type of girl which frankly there not that many of so I tend to see same girls over and over, ni&357; worth posting about. You can generally find me killing time at one if the beach clubs if you want to have a discussion in person.

Now as to then general discussion of LEO watching and comments on the boards leading to arrest. This subject seems to POP up periodically. I will restate the position I've taken several times before, which once again is available for those who have checked my posting history. And that is essentially nothing posted here matters. Unless the girl is completely UTR the cops know about. I have no doubt that MBI monitors this and other boards. As soon as a girl advertises here or on BP, or CV, or Craigslist or Eros or where ever she's presumed to be a prostitute. Graphic reviews or no if she's being discussed in these circles its assumed she's working. Now as to how they target who to go after I imagine they act like all government employees, responding to complaints or going after some low hanging fruit every now and then to justify their budgets. No grand conspiracy or analysis of post needed. Nothing posted here can ever be evidence in court. And the girls have to make a mistake to end up in custody. Those at fixed location care higher risk because they know where they are and it only takes 1 Jesus crispy neighbor to complain. So all this let's keep it secret and only PM I think is pretty pointless. But hay opinions are like assholes.

Originally Posted by Jrbigfish [View Original Post]

Note number one.

**Jrbigfish** · 03-06-13 23:02

Your last post was that you where going to the club but never got a response from you did you make the trip or you didn't did you make the trip and didn't came back or you just want to keep it to your self?

Originally Posted by Tasteless [View Original Post]

Hey guys I was thinking of checking out the paradise men's club in melbourne tomorrow, any reviews on it, has anyone frequented it recently? Would love some feedback. Thanks!

**Jrbigfish** · 03-06-13 22:03

Originally Posted by Iamaries54 [View Original Post]

Remember the monger who was collecting a trusted provider / monger list here it would be an interesting list to see. There are sr members who are pimps, Leo and just about anything else here.

There you thank you for your post!