General Reports

[Broad St Guy]

BSG

Think this will be a summer time deal? I doubt if these "fair weather puesdo cops" will be out there with icicles hanging from their noses in the winter time.

They have been out there for years. Green shirts - yellow lettering that says CCP on back. They walk the streets. They are not Law Enforcement - simply observers who report what they see to LE. They are not armed, but have radios.

Saw Cruisers rolling up to the girls today. There is alot of pressure on the business right now I believe for many reasons. The mayor is up for election for one. There are festivals and activities going on downtown and they do not like folks from other areas having to pass through the business. Also the Franklinton Flood wall was recently certified, thus insurance rates in the bottoms are down. There is a move to renovate the area and developers do not want working girls around. Same thing happened in the short north.

I do not worry about the stings. If girl will not hop in my car, I move on. Nothing is fullproof and anybody can get caught, but it pays to be super cautious. I do not pull up on a girl with a cruiser or the citizen patrol around.

It is not the stings that we have to worry about so much as the unmarked cars that roll up on girls and mongers. Some of the girls tell me that the unmakred cars will watch a known girl and when a guy picks her up, they move in. Remember, under todays watered down laws and the patriot act, they can pretty much pull you over for looking funny. If the girl is holding dope, they can hassle you. You don't want to be in this postion.

Be smart out there - be safe, RTFF and use the big head and not the little one.

[Funlovin]

They are the folks that wear the green shirts with "CCP" on the back.

Use common sense out on the streets, don't draw attention to your self and leave the area if you feel unsafe or your gut tells you to go. Don't think with your little head.

Too much speculation on stings and this and that. Would be nice just to read some reports for a change.

That may actually be the T-Shirt that the gentleman who was talking to the decoy was wearing on Monday behind the convenience store on Sully in the bottoms... clean cut, clean car, clean t-shirt with writing (I remember it was plain letters like a concert security guard would wear) and they were talking to each other and both talking on their cell phones at the same time.

Sorry, BSG, we'll get off of this "sting" kick eventually.

[ILuvIt]

BSG

Think this will be a summer time deal? I doubt if these "fair weather puesdo cops" will be out there with icicles hanging from their noses in the winter time.

[Broad St Guy]

There is an interesting article in the Metro & State section of the Columbus Dispatch dated July 17, 2007 on page B2.

Columbus will spend an extra $283,000 to expand a civilian crime fighting force.


Stay Safe

They are the folks that wear the green shirts with "CCP" on the back.

Use common sense out on the streets, don't draw attention to your self and leave the area if you feel unsafe or your gut tells you to go. Don't think with your little head.

Too much speculation on stings and this and that. Would be nice just to read some reports for a change.

[BigHardOne]

The core of the sting appears to be at Broad and Wisconsin in the Bottoms, and in the alley just north of Broad behind the businesses, this I'm 100% sure was where one of the sting was and perhaps still is.

Another area where more possible stings seem to operate is the area of the post office on broad on the hilltop, where I observed 2 SWs talking to a prospective john through the car door windows, one SW on each side of the car next to the post office on a side street. Sometime before I saw what I mentioned above, there was an LE cruiser parked hidden behind what looks like a church or a small school on the other side of the street just east of the post office.

I was unable to find where at on Sullivant where the stings are at as precisely as I've found on Broad, but I feel that Funluvin would know more about that if he knows than I do. The infrastructure area of Sullivant Avenue that SWs covered is much larger than is the case of W Broad Street where sting operations would need more wide coverage than is the case of W Broad. However, the changed atmosphere on Sullivant doesn't bode well for now.

Thanks for asking BHO. I should had provided this additional info in my earlier post.

As Always

Stay Safe

Thanks for the information. I'll definitly keep a heads up....or is that head down....lol.

[Funlovin]

Believe me, Sunday was the only time I've ever seen it like that. Was it luck? yeah I think it was. I felt even luckier that I wasnt out monday after I read those reports.

I definitely came across three WSWs who weren't working for Uncle LEO on Monday. One slightly chubby blonde on Broad in Hilltop (moved around too much and too discrete and nervous) as well as two brunettes tween Bottoms and Hilltop on Sully (too drugged out). Still, I probably am too cautious as all three disappeared before I was comfortable with the situation and looped back. I'm probably going to err completely on the side of caution and steer clear all together for a while.

[John Ohio]

Believe me, Sunday was the only time I've ever seen it like that. Was it luck? yeah I think it was. I felt even luckier that I wasnt out monday after I read those reports.

[Escape]

I'm the lucky one took a turn down Broad last night and found her just off in the bottoms. She said she was in a car wreck last week but when I asked more about it I could tell it was a lie. Since I don't want to interrogate her we talk about her injuries she has a broken arm with staples from the surgery to put in a plate braces on both ankles from broken bones in her feet. She was very easy to get along with but I had seen her before so she wasn't nervous. The braces take a bit to get off, took it nice and slow. Fs was .3 at a mutual spot Great attitude great body (I love her type almost a gf experience) got digits yet to see if they work. She is a keeper so take care of her.

As far as the report on lots of sw I've been out scouting between reports and tried different times, days, and areas never finding lots of sw in any area or time maybe he's lucky?.....? hmmm

peace out play safe and good to hear from BSG. I for 1 miss your reports and commentary on the board.

Escape

[Het0015]

There is an interesting article in the Metro & State section of the Columbus Dispatch dated July 17, 2007 on page B2.

Columbus will spend an extra $283,000 to expand a civilian crime fighting force.

As a result, according to the newspaper civilian patrols will be stepped up in the Bottoms and the Hilltop, as well as German Village, the University District, and a portion of Clintonville.

That may at least partially answer some questions about why the West Side has heavier LE influence than before, as Funluvin said "It looks like a God damned police academy field trip!" Yes, Mayor Coleman did in fact find a pot of $$$$$$ and set up a task force; relatively speaking.

I wouldn't know if what happened to Jenna Jameson would have anything to do with heavier LE presence in the area as BHO wonders, and I wonder too as we can only speculate. My speculation is what happened to Jenna does partially has to do with heavier LE presence; but your guess is as good as mine. I hope that whoever is responsible for Jenna's injuries will be arrested. I don't know Jenna, but I wish her a speedy recovery.

The civilian patrol people are not policemen or policewomen. The civilian patrol people start off at $8.25 per hour to serve as extra eyes and ears for the LE. Not included in the newspaper article I mentioned but something I remember reading a while back is that they may drive cars that once served as police cruisers, but with the red and blue beacon replaced with amber ones and the police decals removed and replaced with a different one or painted over.

There is no mention of any links with the civilian patrols and prostitution in the article, but are placed in areas that have a lot of property crime. There are no words whether they are uniformed or plainclothed. At any rate, the civilian patrols will also patrol for prostitution as well as any other crime in addition to property crimes.

Since these civilian patrol people are not armed, perhaps they won't be put in areas of violent crimes or if they are they would likely be told to stay away from certain houses and streets as only armed LE should deal with armed criminals. With unarmed criminals, if the civilian patrol guy is bigger than the unarmed punk; then maybe the civilian patrol guy may place him under "citizen's arrest."

This is pretty much all I can say about this subject matter. Anyone else find more information about the civilian patrol activity and its affect on SW activity, put it on this board.

As Always

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[Het0015]

There is a good reason not to post.


We can't assume that if someone does not post, they were busted, there might just be other things to do.

I apologize for making the assumption that some of the longtime members perhaps may had been busted.

With the stoppage of a few people posting and the major busts happening at the same time caused me to post that erroneous conclusion.

Whether anyone from this board got busted or not, usually there is no excuse to be busted after reading this forum and longtime mongerers who knows what he is doing are rarely busted. Vast majority of mongerers busted are newbies. Think with your big head, not your little one.

As Always

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[Het0015]

I agree with ILuvIt. I think PoPo is just inflating the numbers to look better. When I was at lunch today I decided to check out the hilltop and bottoms. There didn't seem to many girls out, but the few I did see were total skanks. I had no plans to pick up any ladies just in case there was a sting. I just wanted to see if I could find it. Het0015, where is this sting you keep talking about on the west side? You keep talking about it, but won't give details of where it is exactly. The one thing I didn't see for sure today was a girl that looked to good to be a sw. Anyway, if you have anymore details, please share.

P.S. Has anyone got an update on Jenna?

The core of the sting appears to be at Broad and Wisconsin in the Bottoms, and in the alley just north of Broad behind the businesses, this I'm 100% sure was where one of the sting was and perhaps still is.

Another area where more possible stings seem to operate is the area of the post office on broad on the hilltop, where I observed 2 SWs talking to a prospective john through the car door windows, one SW on each side of the car next to the post office on a side street. Sometime before I saw what I mentioned above, there was an LE cruiser parked hidden behind what looks like a church or a small school on the other side of the street just east of the post office.

I was unable to find where at on Sullivant where the stings are at as precisely as I've found on Broad, but I feel that Funluvin would know more about that if he knows than I do. The infrastructure area of Sullivant Avenue that SWs covered is much larger than is the case of W Broad Street where sting operations would need more wide coverage than is the case of W Broad. However, the changed atmosphere on Sullivant doesn't bode well for now.

Thanks for asking BHO. I should had provided this additional info in my earlier post.

As Always

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[Chris H]

Still here bud - I see no point in posting. I go out, do my thing and move on. Not interested in the drama out there and avoid it. Some of these posts of late though are a bit silly though. At the end of the day, I really have nothing to gain from posting, and the 411 on the board is really not that helpful to me anymore either.

There is a good reason not to post.


We can't assume that if someone does not post, they were busted, there might just be other things to do.

[BigHardOne]

AtBig-I spoke with Nikki when I picked her up a few nights ago. She doesn't know all the details (nor is this necessarily the truth, it comes from the mouth of someone not directly involved, so take it with a grain of salt, as she may be misinformed), but she says Jenna had both her arms broken by someone, and that there are multiple rumors floating around, each pointing in different directions, some saying that a monger did it, while others saying that her boyfriend (read: pimp) did it when he was out.

Buckeye, Like you, I got my info from a sw and like you said, you have to take it all with a grain of salt. Hopefully she isn't on her death bed (As I was told). Between that and all of the recent postings about PoPo activity, stings, ext. ext. ext. This all got me to thinking........What is the possibility that all of the LE activity is due to what happened to Jenna and they are trying to find whomever did it (Assuming they believe it was a monger)?

[Broad St Guy]

Who's post other than BSG, have come to a scheeching halt???
Just curious..

Chris H

Still here bud - I see no point in posting. I go out, do my thing and move on. Not interested in the drama out there and avoid it. Some of these posts of late though are a bit silly though. At the end of the day, I really have nothing to gain from posting, and the 411 on the board is really not that helpful to me anymore either.

[Chris H]

While you think beforehand about the West Side seeming to be the hotspot where SWs may be found, you have to realize that eventually busts will eventually follow.

When you see someone "pointing" the way to a SW, you have to know that's too good to be true. Either they are pointing you to drive yourself into a bust, or they are pointing you to drive yourself in an ambush robbery situation. Legitimate SWs don't point the way for you to go.

It is strongly recommended that you stay away from Sullivant and Broad on the West Side.

Also, the larger than average number of "really beautiful" SWs is too good to be true.

My earlier report has a paragraph where a busted SW tried to get into my vehicle. That SW seem to fit the description of Mary Clifton that someone made in an earlier report about being arrested for "spreading contagion." Thus, when a mongerer gets busted while in company of Mary Clifton (assuming that's the same person) the LE use that to scare senses into the busted mongerer.

It appears that their tactics can fool even the most seasoned mongerers, though I hope that no one from this board got caught up in the busts; but then again it appears that the frequency of posts of some of the "longtime" senior members on this board has come to a screeching halt.

If you're lucky enough to have a collection of digits, now would be a good time to use them, but remember an advice a SW long ago gave me "don't talk sex and money over the phone," apparently because the line may be bugged. If it's been a while since you called a certain digit, call from a payphone, not your home or cell phone.

Remember, the busts will subside over a period of time in areas affected; and then after some time the SWs will come back out. Right now it is a very risky time to monger around on the West Side. Also remember that as the drug issues are taken care of by the LE, the percentage of SWs with fewer drug issues will increase as they perhaps won't be targeted as much by the LE since these "cleaner" SWs would support the illegal drug trade on a lesser scale or none at all. Now remember I said "targeted on a lesser scale," not "not targeted at all" since they are infiltrating the CL advertisements of many escorts who may not have drug issues. Hopefully the SW situation may go back to as it was decades ago when SWs didn't have nearly as many issues attached to them as it is today. Remember, President Kennedy lost his virginity to a prostitute at the age of 17 (I think) for about $3; yes that's 3 Washingtons.

Now as Funluvin's report in the strip bars section contains an exceptional point that as the low hours of operation of strip bars comes to pass, these women won't be able to make the monies that they used to make. Therefore the likelihood of some of the dancers resorting to escorting themselves out for prostitution will increase. Yes, you will have to drop more cash for that, but it will be more discreet, and no nuisances will follow; as is the case of SWs and mongerers in residential neighborhoods.

Speaking of what I've just said, the LE and those in the government who happens to be reading this post should think at least about some kind of conservative de-criminalization of prostitution that would allow for some existence of legalized prostitution that wouldn't be a nuisance to residential neighborhoods. Keep the issues of the Church and the issues of the State separate, after all we are living in a New Testament period of Grace. The forefathers has set up the United States as a Secular country, not an Ecclesiastical country. Those things can wait until Satan is bound in a pit for a thousand years during the Millennial Period. As we all know, evil cannot happen without outside help; and no, I'm not going to use "Satan made me do it" as an excuse as we are all responsible for our actions. But for the law to wreck the lives of prostitutes with records that will keep them from getting jobs and therefore trapped in prostitution in order to make ends meet is pretty evil. A woman selling her body, whether through strip bars, pornography, or even prostitution is something that is only meant to be something to do for only a few years while they learn training for better jobs or whatever their goals are of what they want out of life that may not have anything to do with sexuality.

Now, if you happen to be a financially affected stripper reading this trying to pay your way through school; it is recommended that you move to another state that doesn't have this asinine hours of operations law, change school and go on with your life.

There was even one stripper negatively affected by this "hours of operations" law who was even using stripping to pay her way through school majoring in Law Enforcement! It was reported in the Columbus Dispatch.

Look up in the Yahoo search engine "Tennessee Law Book" and click on one of the first links. You then will see a humorous portrayal of what may come to pass in a scenario of what may happen if this country if the so called "Religious Rights" (many are actually hypocrites) and the political leaders who believe in the full integration of church and state gets their way.

One good movie to watch about a secular state going ecclesiastical, and what happened afterwards not only to prostitution but other issues as well; is the movie "Dangerous Beauty." Another good movie to watch about what happened to a country after it turned ecclesiastical by so called religious hypocrites is the "Handmaids tale."

There is one SW I know, she mentioned that she strongly prefer to sell her body because she can make more money than she can at fast food places. Not only that, too many workers in minimum wage jobs face bullying from those in management, they are promised decent hours, but often have their hours cut back resulting in lower incomes that won't let them pay bills and so on. As SWs know, others outside of family and friendship circles don't give a shit about them so some who are not doing drugs resort to prostitution to make ends meet, so the landlord won't evict them. They also resort to prostitution to escape negative working conditions even if their hours are all right. They are looking to protect themselves too just like everyone else. Since too many minimum wage industries obviously don't care about their workers, I also feel that laws in addition to minimum wage would be useful to keep the minimum wage industries from exploiting their workers like that. At least to this particular SW's credit, she absolutely loves sex so thankfully her situation is better than some SWs.

Speaking of "conservatively de-criminalizing prostitute in ways that will allow for the existence of legalized prostitution in ways so that it won't be a nuisance to residential neighborhoods; obviously properly legally licensed prostitute should be allowed to sell her body through the erotic section of Craigslist and newspaper advertisements, and the mongerers should be able to utilize prostitution services through Craigslist and the newspaper without fear of prosecution. Same for "takeouts" of strip bars and so on. There wouldn't be residential nuisances that way. Until such forms of legalization takes place, SWs and mongerers will always exists in neighborhoods that may be seen as a nuisance. Also, scamming prostitute using Craigslist and newspaper will also sharply drop as they will lose their license to legally prostitute themselves, and scamming strip bar takeout prostitute may get fired from their jobs.

Remember to heed the advice of refraining from mongering on Sullivant and Broad on the West side for a while as for right now not only most SWs are no longer there, the LE has a big sting operation going on in that area with decoys. You may want to monger in a different part of town where SWs exists, but didn't exist in sheer numbers as was the case on the West Side. If you resort to your collection of digits, remember an advice that a SW gave me about not talking about sex and money on the phone in case the line is tapped; which for the same reason you should make the call from a payphone instead of your home and cell phone if you haven't called a particular digit in a while.

As Always,

Stay Safe

Who's post other than BSG, have come to a scheeching halt???
Just curious..

Chris H