Comment on Forum Rules Here

[Tampa Monger]

I was recently served with an infraction because I "bragged about unsafe sex," although it was sex with my girlfriend (at the time). If I'd talked about "unsafe sex" with my wife — I don't have one, but just as an example —*would that have been "bragging about unsafe sex"? Ridiculous. I think I can Be accused of being off-topic, though, since this is a site about pros, not wives and girlfriends.

This site used to have a non-judgmental policy about unsafe sex practices. I'm baffled as to why it's been changed. This site is about meeting women for sex. What *kind* of sex two consenting adults choose to have is their business. If a site member chooses to post that he had unsafe sex with a provider, what's the big deal? That's extremely useful intel, both for those who might want to partake and those who might want to avoid such a provider.

I've generally agreed with Jackson's policies in the past, but not this time. (There was one other exception, too, but that was a long time ago.) I think it's a real shame. The bottom line, though, is that this is Jackson's site. The utility of this site to me is pretty enormous, so as much as I despise this rule change, I can't imagine I'll do anything about it. I have the money and expertise to start a competing site if I wanted to, but I lack the time and motivation, so I guess I'll just have to deal.

But at least I can register my strong protest here.

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Hi Tampa Monger,

Posting Safe Sex Complaints

Per the Forum's Posting Guidelines, Safe Sex Complaints may only be posted in the following Safe Sex Complaints threads:

International Sex Guide Forum

USA Sex Guide Forum

Members may also use the Forum's PM system to voice their Safe Sex Complaints towards individual Forum Members.

Here's the full text of the reasoning behind this policy:

Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the Safe Sex Thread. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However...

Forum Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.

It does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:

1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.

To address the usual arguments:

1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.

2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.

3. If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Sexhoundtn2]

This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.

I TOTALLY agree with Mundane, Pup and the others responding. If we can't post the providers name and / or info why the hell is the "ripoff" thread even on the board. I thought the purpose of this entire forum was to protect us, the consumer (as well as providers) from harm. So instead we protect the "guilty"? WTF? Once again, just MHO.

[Member #4178]

This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.

I with you 100% Mundane! I am, as the handle suggests, a rather shy individual, with a lot to lose if I were to get busted at my hobby. Since it is just a hobby and not my life, I keep the two completely separate. One of the ways that I best manage to do this is to live by the adage "better safe than sorry". So what if I have to miss out on more dreams than I would like, all it would take is that one wrong decision to bring it all crashing down. Boards like this are one of the places I go to help keep me safe, and help me to insulate my personal and professional life from my hobby. I would rather have the information, particularly from a senior member, than to have it removed or edited to "protect the innocent" when it's my ass on the line.

Stay safe,

Shy

Well. You guys know how I feel about this, having already been chastised and threatened with expulsion for doing just what you're discussing. But we don't run the board, so until the powers that be change the rules, we are (unfortunately) put in the position of having to abide by them, no matter how stupid we think those rules are!

[Shyknox]

This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.

I with you 100% Mundane! I am, as the handle suggests, a rather shy individual, with a lot to lose if I were to get busted at my hobby. Since it is just a hobby and not my life, I keep the two completely separate. One of the ways that I best manage to do this is to live by the adage "better safe than sorry". So what if I have to miss out on more dreams than I would like, all it would take is that one wrong decision to bring it all crashing down. Boards like this are one of the places I go to help keep me safe, and help me to insulate my personal and professional life from my hobby. I would rather have the information, particularly from a senior member, than to have it removed or edited to "protect the innocent" when it's my ass on the line.

Stay safe,

Shy

[Mundane]

This will probably get removed, but as much I enjoy and appreciate this site, I believe the rule of not naming names when it comes to robberies and arrests is incredibly stupid. This is a REVIEW site. Meaning we can say that her pussy stinks and her ass is fat and she has a bad attitude, but we can't say that she engages in robberies? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Personally, I'd rather meet a nasty smelling, flat chested, flabby ass gal who laughs at the size of my dick than have a gal or her pimp pull a gun on me and take my money!

This whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing doesn't work on site like this. We need to know what's going on. If it turns out ot be bad info, the truth will come out.

[Dwnunder1]

Ok, so where do I comment if I want an actual response. Hello, is this thing on?

[Dwnunder1]

Ok, so its not a rule, but I don't get the retyping of our posts to enforce perfect grammer, paragraph seperation, proper use of punctuation etc. Which only makes our posts take forever to get posted. Seems like a lot of work for the guy correcting all these school papers. And why can't I put 3 periods at the end of a sentence if I want to? And use an exclamation point AND a question mark at the end of the same sentence to indicate a loud question! Nope, the exclamation mark got deleted. WHy cn't I tip lik a txtn teen-a-ger if I want 2?

Especially on about the most politically incorrect forum there is, come on.

[Seva Lurker]

This might reveal me as a complete newbie but. Where are the forum rules found? I've clicking around but can't find any official rules just people making mention of things being against rules.

I might be missing something obvious but I'd rather ask than accidentally break rules.

Goto the 'homepage' link, look on the left side in the second frame, the second option.

[NC Wanderer]

This might reveal me as a complete newbie but. Where are the forum rules found? I've clicking around but can't find any official rules just people making mention of things being against rules.

I might be missing something obvious but I'd rather ask than accidentally break rules.

Click on the FAQ

[Emme Gee]

This might reveal me as a complete newbie but. Where are the forum rules found? I've clicking around but can't find any official rules just people making mention of things being against rules.

I might be missing something obvious but I'd rather ask than accidentally break rules.

[Skatar018]

First I would like to say thanks to Jackson for all his hard work & due diligence in maintaining this site.

With that said I am having a hard time understanding why we only have X amount of time to edit, change, add to, or delete a post. (I think it’s 24 hrs)

If I am the originator of the post I don’t see why I cannot edit, change, delete, or add to the post at any point in time until the post is archived.

Perhaps I am missing something & just don’t’ know how nor can I find how to change the post once the X time line has elapsed.

I think this would help eliminate emails to Jackson requesting changes made to posts.

I feel it would be an improvement to the site to be able to go in & change, edit, delete, the post without the necessity of contacting Jackson to do it.

I know I have sent several emails requesting a deletion on a post with no reply or response, and the post(s) are still there.

[LapDogg]

I once visited an AMP provider,
I was so proud of my performance inside her,
I blabbed so much detail,
Cops put her in jail,
Next time I'll be much brighter.

Ok, we need a new thread for poems now.

Actually what you posted was a limerick, it is a very specific 5-line poem that is often humorous. I think opening the forum to all poems would encourage actual literary ventures, not so much appreciated here.

LOL

[Admin]

It could be argued that posting the name of the AMP is akin to giving the address since the address can be easily found once the name is given. (I am guilty of providing establishment names). However, I don't think that giving a provider's fake name (you know they are giving fake names just like you do) can be linked back to them. They could all be sharing the same name - who knows? Same girl probably has 3 or 4 names they go by.

Greetings Everyone,

First, an AMP is a business, and thus it IS NOT a "personal address", and thus it IS NOT covered under the prohibition against the posting of Personal Contact Information.

Second, a provider's first name, fake or otherwise, IS NOT specificly identifying to the point that it would be considered "Personal Contact Information", and thus it IS NOT covered under the prohibition against the posting of Personal Contact Information.

Thanks,

Jackson

[NeverTell]

I am going to be a complete hypocrite here and do exactly what my post is complaining about - complain about post that complain about the content of other posts.

Maybe we need another thread to discuss the proper posting technique and what amount of information is acceptable. Until then we should use the existing "Rules" as our guide which clearly state:

"No Personal Contact Information: Please do not post any personal email address, telephone numbers or street addresses in the Forum. Please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to exchange this information."

http://usasexguide.info/forum/announ...forumrules.php

It could be argued that posting the name of the AMP is akin to giving the address since the address can be easily found once the name is given. (I am guilty of providing establishment names). However, I don't think that giving a provider's fake name (you know they are giving fake names just like you do) can be linked back to them. They could all be sharing the same name - who knows? Same girl probably has 3 or 4 names they go by.

So, until another thread is started for this topic we should reserve this space for AMP reports.

(P.S. I would feel a bit guilty about this post but I just posted this months experience yesterday).

I once visited an AMP provider,
I was so proud of my performance inside her,
I blabbed so much detail,
Cops put her in jail,
Next time I'll be much brighter.

Ok, we need a new thread for poems now.

[Wallie]

First of all: Jackson, as always, thanks for the hard work you put in to keep the USASG online, and keeping it as such a useful source for the Monger. With the Moderating you have to do between this site, and the INTLSG, I don't know how you find time to Monger and live a life away from the site yourself.

OK, with that out of the way, I would like to see some of the old rules about photos posted on the Guide return. I realize that policing the Photos in the Guide would be yet another time-consuming thing you have to do, but I also think there are too many "junk" photos being posted. Here are a couple of examples:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=122: IMHO, half of the photos in this post are useful, half are not. The images of the Lady that are body shots, etc., are fine, but a couple of the shots are nothing but Porn, and are, again, IMHO, add virtually nothing of value to the post. As I remember, the posting of Porn was against the old Photo Posting Guidelines of the USASG.

Another example: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=310: All the photos here are "action shots".

There are many Photos posted that are of this ilk, or which have only a Vagina shot, or Penetration. It seems to me that Photos which only show sex, and absolutely no facial (as in Face, not the Pearl Necklace type of facial) images, don't serve to help any Mongers make a connection with the Lady in question.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...postcount=1507: This post, unlike the previous examples, perfectly does what having a photo gallery is intended to do, it shows us the Lady, her body, and her build, without resorting to "Action Shots", which as I remember the old rules, were against Forum Policies.

Also, there are many photos posted which have embedded text in them, such as this one: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...postcount=1461. This is against current Forum Policy as well, and seems to happen fairly regularly with some members, including the one who posted this example, and Glenn61, who likes to "decorate" his photos with slogans, etc.

This post itself violates the Guide's TOS, as it contains instructions for an external link, passwords, and sign-in information, in addition to the useless first image: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=377.

Using a previous example again: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...&postcount=310, I think this an good example of another thought I have. I believe that the ability to post 10 images attached to a Report could be a reason there is so many "useless" images posted. It seems to me that 4-5 attachments would be plenty for most Reports. This might cut down on a poster's desire to post everything they have, and instead, just post the best images of a Lady.

I know there are no easy solutions to these problems, as I'm sure Moderating the Guides takes enough of your time, but perhaps a system-wide message reminding Members of the Photo Guidelines, would be helpful, especially if repeated Violations carried some sort of Penalty. Perhaps a 30 day ban on a user's ability to post images, or a temporary lowering of Membership Status would help.

{Fellow Mongers: this is not meant as an insult or indictment of any individual member(s). These are just things that I think could make the Guide more useful. Please, do not be offended if I used one of your Posts as an example. I just linked to some of the ones that really stuck out during a quick perusal of the Photo Gallery.}

Just some thoughts. If you find them useful, great, if I'm crazy, that's fine too.

All the best, and, again, thanks.

Wallie