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  1. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkumia  [View Original Post]
    Thats what I will start doing, let her know I am making a porn starring her and I and compensation is for taking part. Hopefully she can read between lines.
    You may need to show some paperwork I. E. Actor contract etc. Just thinking with my big head today LOL.

  2. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheech1  [View Original Post]
    So there was recently another sting, in Columbus. Lots of guys got popped, but I read somewhere that charges were dropped or never made against a few of them. They were entrapping guys out of a chat room claiming to be a teenage girl. Obviously we don't want to make an appointment with someone under the age of 18. Even though the age of consent in Ohio is 16. Again remembering that one should never discuss ANY form of compensation for sex over the phone, even moreso if you haven't previously met the individual in person and know her age.

    I also wanted to mention that making porn is legal in all 50 states. So, apparently if you do mention something it is an adequate defense to say you want to take video of whatever you are going to do and pay her as an actor. Now, I haven't had time to research this to see if in fact it is correct, so I'm hoping that some of you guys can do a little digging online and see if in fact that theory is correct. As a group we can do lots more research than one man alone, so pitch in and lets see what we can find out.

    Cheech.
    Thats what I will start doing, let her know I am making a porn starring her and I and compensation is for taking part. Hopefully she can read between lines.

  3. #47
    A) No person who is eighteen years of age or older shall engage in sexual conduct with another, who is not the spouse of the offender, when the offender knows the other person is thirteen years of age or older but less than sixteen years of age, or the offender is reckless in that regard.

    This is sec. 2907.04 of the Ohio Revised Code. 16 is the age of consent. Read it carefully.

    Cheech.

    Quote Originally Posted by BbiggDdaddy  [View Original Post]
    The age of consent in Ohio is not 16. Ohio has what is known as a Romeo and Juliet law or close in age proximity law. This means that a 16 year old can consent to someone no older than 18 and a 17 year old can consent to someone no older than 19. An 18 year old can give consent to any adult.

  4. #46

    The practical age of Consent in Ohio is 18

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheech1  [View Original Post]
    So there was recently another sting, in Columbus. Lots of guys got popped, but I read somewhere that charges were dropped or never made against a few of them. They were entrapping guys out of a chat room claiming to be a teenage girl. Obviously we don't want to make an appointment with someone under the age of 18. Even though the age of consent in Ohio is 16. Again remembering that one should never discuss ANY form of compensation for sex over the phone, even moreso if you haven't previously met the individual in person and know her age.

    I also wanted to mention that making porn is legal in all 50 states. So, apparently if you do mention something it is an adequate defense to say you want to take video of whatever you are going to do and pay her as an actor. Now, I haven't had time to research this to see if in fact it is correct, so I'm hoping that some of you guys can do a little digging online and see if in fact that theory is correct. As a group we can do lots more research than one man alone, so pitch in and lets see what we can find out.

    Cheech.
    The age of consent in Ohio is not 16. Ohio has what is known as a Romeo and Juliet law or close in age proximity law. This means that a 16 year old can consent to someone no older than 18 and a 17 year old can consent to someone no older than 19. An 18 year old can give consent to any adult.

  5. #45

    Defense

    So there was recently another sting, in Columbus. Lots of guys got popped, but I read somewhere that charges were dropped or never made against a few of them. They were entrapping guys out of a chat room claiming to be a teenage girl. Obviously we don't want to make an appointment with someone under the age of 18. Even though the age of consent in Ohio is 16. Again remembering that one should never discuss ANY form of compensation for sex over the phone, even moreso if you haven't previously met the individual in person and know her age.

    I also wanted to mention that making porn is legal in all 50 states. So, apparently if you do mention something it is an adequate defense to say you want to take video of whatever you are going to do and pay her as an actor. Now, I haven't had time to research this to see if in fact it is correct, so I'm hoping that some of you guys can do a little digging online and see if in fact that theory is correct. As a group we can do lots more research than one man alone, so pitch in and lets see what we can find out.

    Cheech.

  6. #44

    Defense wins championships

    Was in a deep thought last night drinking some whiskey and I realized, our accomplishments coming together and warning about the 2022 berea sting, the arrests were so scarce even to the point Yost didn't even have a press conference, is very similar to the sports saying "defense wins championships. " we aided in limiting them to eight arrests in a full weekend operation when they were expecting many more, just like a great defense limits their opponents to barely any points or rushing yards in a super bowl winning effort. Obviously we can't be on the offense and change the laws yet, but we can play defense and raise awareness which will hopefully limit their arrests so they will get no more funding. Last week was such a huge team effort victory for the side of us good guys that it should not be forgotten, and definitely deserves this sentiment.

    Stay vigilant, we still have a long ways to go before election time.

    C92.

  7. #43

    Amen

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheech1  [View Original Post]
    In the escort reports thread a couple guys mentioned what Toni B said about getting arrested and the new law.

    What we have to remember here is that we can't be saying anything on the phone or texting anything that could be incriminating. That way there is nothing to use against you if you should get popped. Next, if you should get popped, don't say anything except your name, and you want to speak with your lawyer. Don't try to explain anything, what you were doing there, etc. , just I want to speak with my lawyer. No matter how nice the cops are, weather you are arrested or not, whatever, DO NOT answer ANY questions. The man is going to try to sound like a nice guy, like its no big deal and so on, like they are not interested in you but want to get her, etc. Nonetheless, do not answer questions. Do be calm and polite. Be respectful even though you know they are lying POS. Do not get worried or up in arms, just calmly and politely ask to speak with your lawyer.

    Cheech.
    In its simplest terms, it is impossible for them to enforce this law unless we incriminate ourselves. We know the secrets that the pigs don't want us to know, that's why when they talk about this site in the news they never use the real name because they don't want average joes finding out about it and they call it a "dark place. " they want people to be stupid and basic and not accomplish anything besides being in debt and paying into the tax system. And lets not forget, they want to target the very sheep they created more then they want to target a career criminal. The elite look down on us on this board because we are intellectuals and if everyone thought like us, we would put divorce attorneys and marriage counselors along with several other professions out of business . Its all about keeping the sheep in line.

    Be calm as you said, and together we will win this, because pretty soon my generation will be moving into the political positions, and that is our chance to end discrimination against hobbyists and escorts.

  8. #42

    Evidence

    In the escort reports thread a couple guys mentioned what Toni B said about getting arrested and the new law.

    What we have to remember here is that we can't be saying anything on the phone or texting anything that could be incriminating. That way there is nothing to use against you if you should get popped. Next, if you should get popped, don't say anything except your name, and you want to speak with your lawyer. Don't try to explain anything, what you were doing there, etc. , just I want to speak with my lawyer. No matter how nice the cops are, weather you are arrested or not, whatever, DO NOT answer ANY questions. The man is going to try to sound like a nice guy, like its no big deal and so on, like they are not interested in you but want to get her, etc. Nonetheless, do not answer questions. Do be calm and polite. Be respectful even though you know they are lying POS. Do not get worried or up in arms, just calmly and politely ask to speak with your lawyer.

    Cheech.

  9. #41

    Stories

    This is why the first thing they do if a couple people are being questioned is separate them. If you're outside somewhere one pig will take you over to one car while the other person gets led to a different spot by another pig. Then they switch. Then they are both telling that the other person spilled their guts. Fear. You got to have no fear to survive.

    I should say, you have to be able to conquer your fear. We all have fear, but you have to overcome it.

    Cheech.

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Chunks92  [View Original Post]
    There was an episode of cops where the cop did that to a guy. Cop pulls this couple over mid day she was a known hooker said something like "come on man she's already told me everything" the guy folded immediately. Ill have to see if I can find that clip but what a fuck up. its actually worse then that even because they charge drivers with felony "promoting prostitution" if youre the poor bastard who gives a woman a ride even if you dont know what the hell they were doing. by you talking, you can talk yourself into felonies, not just misdemeanors. happened in a local area, some old guy clearly not a pimp gave his friend a ride and got nailed for promoting, got it down to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct though but still imagine the stress of them trying to make you a felon for helping your friend out when you did nothing and theyre out there ignoring real crime. its that serious because i mean if they can find a way to give you a fake made up felony that sticks , there go your gun rights, and your employment. dont talk to them under any circumstances.
    The only thing anyone should ever tell the police is. "I want to talk to my lawyer. I will not answer any questions without them. ".

  11. #39

    Re

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheech1  [View Original Post]
    I noticed a couple posts in News thread talking about that councilman in Lorain county getting sentenced.

    Number one rule if stopped or arrested is "Do not talk to police. " They will lie and say anything they can think of to get you to incriminate yourself, including saying they have you on camera and telling you that the girl ratted you out, etc. I've been told that I was on camera once a while ago, so I said "Lets see the video, show it to me. " They immediately started on a different tack. Whole thing went away, because they didn't have a shred of evidence that could stand up in court. They will lie, lie, lie. And the courts support that bullshit.

    Cheech.
    There was an episode of cops where the cop did that to a guy. Cop pulls this couple over mid day she was a known hooker said something like "come on man she's already told me everything" the guy folded immediately. Ill have to see if I can find that clip but what a fuck up. its actually worse then that even because they charge drivers with felony "promoting prostitution" if youre the poor bastard who gives a woman a ride even if you dont know what the hell they were doing. by you talking, you can talk yourself into felonies, not just misdemeanors. happened in a local area, some old guy clearly not a pimp gave his friend a ride and got nailed for promoting, got it down to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct though but still imagine the stress of them trying to make you a felon for helping your friend out when you did nothing and theyre out there ignoring real crime. its that serious because i mean if they can find a way to give you a fake made up felony that sticks , there go your gun rights, and your employment. dont talk to them under any circumstances.

  12. #38

    Lorain county

    I noticed a couple posts in News thread talking about that councilman in Lorain county getting sentenced.

    Number one rule if stopped or arrested is "Do not talk to police. " They will lie and say anything they can think of to get you to incriminate yourself, including saying they have you on camera and telling you that the girl ratted you out, etc. I've been told that I was on camera once a while ago, so I said "Lets see the video, show it to me. " They immediately started on a different tack. Whole thing went away, because they didn't have a shred of evidence that could stand up in court. They will lie, lie, lie. And the courts support that bullshit.

    Cheech.

  13. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Chunks92  [View Original Post]
    I have plenty of methods for that, I search the number on google, and if I can't find any previous listings then I run the info on revealname to make sure its a real number. Oftentimes too the ladies leave information in their posts that lets me find their social media, OFans etc, which is pretty foolproof to avoid a sting. From there I also run background checks as well on case search websites if its like a SKG provider. I see higher end providers as well and higher end providers are usually not much to worry about in the sting department.

    We appreciate you, if you see any articles about this sort of thing happening please let us know! I can't see that holding up in court.
    I do something similar. I check the numbers on spokeo which seems to work even sometimes with the phone numbers from apps. One gal wrote no AAs and from her fb posts she was living with (or married to) a black man. I also do a common pleas court docket search for the local counties.

  14. #36

    Check yahoo News

    Quote Originally Posted by Chunks92  [View Original Post]
    I have plenty of methods for that, I search the number on google, and if I can't find any previous listings then I run the info on revealname to make sure its a real number. Oftentimes too the ladies leave information in their posts that lets me find their social media, OFans etc, which is pretty foolproof to avoid a sting. From there I also run background checks as well on case search websites if its like a SKG provider. I see higher end providers as well and higher end providers are usually not much to worry about in the sting department.

    We appreciate you, if you see any articles about this sort of thing happening please let us know! I can't see that holding up in court.
    For the article. It was on yesterday. It's a good one to link I just can't from this phone.

  15. #35

    Re

    Quote Originally Posted by Newguy1973  [View Original Post]
    What kind of information? I haven't noticed.
    Well for example look at Adrianas ad on one of the websites. I took the plunge way back during winter she left her email in her description which contained her real name. From that I was able to run case search and social media and establish that she was clearly a real person. Still proceeded with caution, but I knew it was 99.99999 percent of a chance that it was not a sting which is all I care about. I think I wrote the second review on her. Theres information all out there literally right in front of us, you just got to keep your eyes peeled.

    Also, running number searches on reveal name, when they provide you an address you can look up the address on spokeo or auditors sites which will oftentimes get you to that persons last name or sometimes first and last name, in which you can also proceed with running a case search/social media check to once again establish that they are a real person. putting in the last name in a case search site will oftentimes pull up everyone with that last name in surrounding jurisdictions, which will then lead you to their first name. which is often times successful because 99.99999 percent of these women have at least some misdemeanors on their record.

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