What I learned as a Monger for the past 2 years. Good read for Newbies

[DWaits]

I've been considering joining the hobby for a couple of years, but I can't pull the trigger. I am married and I think I would be too guilty if I went through with it. On the other hand, my sex life is awful at home and it's driving me crazy!

Any suggestions from guys who've been in my place? Anyone regret it or have a hard time with the guilt?

You have to be blunt and tell your wife that you are unhappy. She needs to hear why. Then tell her you want to go to therapy if that's something you can afford. Find a therapist who identifies as sex positive. If after therapy there is no change, dump her ass or cheat but never ever admit to cheating and don't get caught.

[TwoCentsSteve]

I've been considering joining the hobby for a couple of years, but I can't pull the trigger. I am married and I think I would be too guilty if I went through with it. On the other hand, my sex life is awful at home and it's driving me crazy!

Any suggestions from guys who've been in my place? Anyone regret it or have a hard time with the guilt?

Plenty great providers do your research. Not saying you should or not but if you were, just protect yourself and get tested. You wouldn't want to bring anything home. And infected others.

Stay safe.

[Ron M]

I'm 30 already, who knows how much longer I'd live. I'm not willing to risk it all with BBFS just yet but once I hit 50, that's a whole different story.

At 30 years old you're at your peak of your game.

At 50 things don't work like they did in your 30's. It takes longer to get geared up to play.

In my 30's I had a blast playing around.

Now in my late 50's (I turn 60 in May) it takes longer for things to get ready to play if at all.

Use your peak time to have as much fun as you can.

In your 50's things don't work as well as in your 30's.

[Ron M]

I've been considering joining the hobby for a couple of years, but I can't pull the trigger. I am married and I think I would be too guilty if I went through with it. On the other hand, my sex life is awful at home and it's driving me crazy!

Any suggestions from guys who've been in my place? Anyone regret it or have a hard time with the guilt?

Let guilt go to Hell.

You should just go for it.

[Illinois Guy 7]

I've been considering joining the hobby for a couple of years, but I can't pull the trigger. I am married and I think I would be too guilty if I went through with it. On the other hand, my sex life is awful at home and it's driving me crazy!

Any suggestions from guys who've been in my place? Anyone regret it or have a hard time with the guilt?

I cannot put the details on why my sex life at home is awful, but I tried and tried to make it better. I feel much better about myself from the hobby. I will only say that I have had incredible experiences in the hobby. The only regrets I have are monetary ones, so your guilt can be a good thing to keep the hobby in check, either avoiding it altogether or limiting it. If you want help being talked out of it, I can say that, for me, I let the Genie is out of the bottle and I find it near impossible to put it back.

Edited to add:
You posted long ago that you were considering Kurumi-Gray for your first experience. I have never seen her, but my first experiences were at the legal brothels in Nevada with high-end girls. If I had stuck to that beyond the first couple of years, I actually would have saved money as the hobby would have been only for special occasions instead of whenever I want to see someone "today."

[ChiGuy1711]

I've been considering joining the hobby for a couple of years, but I can't pull the trigger. I am married and I think I would be too guilty if I went through with it. On the other hand, my sex life is awful at home and it's driving me crazy!

Any suggestions from guys who've been in my place? Anyone regret it or have a hard time with the guilt?

[JamesWords]

Oh yes, I'm well aware BBFS is far riskier then using condoms LOL I'm just voicing I still think it's better then other providers with habits or Asian apartments because atleast the knowledge of knowing she or other providers try to be on top of the game is reassurance. She atleast isn't quick to let people run in there one after the other (probably why people have hard time getting contact right away). Like you said even with a condom it's still a dangerous game but knowing someone is tested and held fast to not let you in instantly is better than 20-40 guys was in someone the same day as you (don't get me wrong even then I still know it's dangerous) and still not knowing if they take any precautions whatsoever. I don't plan on staying in long as I'm going to try and opt out eventually, if I can LOL. Also like you said this can be a addiction because of the level of service some of these women are giving is what's the most fucked up part about this LOL so it becomes hard to steer away. I'm also not really a hardcore guy who sees escorts every chance I get sometimes I go without months on end but still it just takes that one time and it could be game over.

Any person you fuck have the potential to give you std, working or not. I enjoy eating a chick out, pussy and ass. My favorite thing to do is 69. Love it when they tremble in my mouth from the sensation. I know full well I might get stds but I'd still do it. If you're paying for pleasure, you should get what you're looking for. If you're so scared of stds, might as well get a Fleshlight.

Game is game. I'm 30 already, who knows how much longer I'd live. I'm not willing to risk it all with BBFS just yet but once I hit 50, that's a whole different story.

[Ravsavo9]

While I agree with you that a high traffic provider like those girls that won't flinch at licking your ass at Asian massage parlors for a lower price is adding to the risk, you are definitely kidding yourself if you think BBFS isn't an even higher risk. Regardless if Macie is being tested, or taking PrEP pills, all it takes if for an infected customer to taint your Macie 1 time and your now added to the pool of STD.

Porn stars get tested regularly and they all still get tons of STD's, some they treat but there have been many scary AIDS cases which have halted production entirely. Just look it up, an STD in porn is quite common and that's only because it's always BBFS.

Remember when you sleep with someone BBFS you are also sleeping with every other person she's had BBFS with, and even with Condoms if it breaks or the parts around the condom that don't get coverage get on your skin your fucked. This is why cowgirl is more riskier than doggy style, gravity is working entirely against you and you will get infected easier even with condoms.

The truth is that it's clear you simply love the power over a person during sex than sex itself. Truthfully there are many partners that are willing to do this for you as they may like to be submissive. Don't be surprised if you suggest these kinks to your partner and if you slowly show her what you like that she would be willing to comply.

Just remember the porn sex you viewed as a young child isn't really sex. Even pornstars will tell you it's all fake and nobody really enjoys sex that way. That's the other damage you will be causing yourself. You might rob yourself of actually enjoying love with your partner instead of just wanting physical sex. That's a real thing and you'll soon find out if you program yourself enough by staying in this hobby that you won't be able to get it up anymore with regular sex. You'll need the rough stuff to make it work and that's when your in trouble; and will have to work hard to de-program yourself.

These are the things I just want to share with people getting into this hobby, it's like that game show "Deal or No Deal" people keep playing the game thinking the return will get better in the long run but the truth is, their best deals are in the middle of the game and that's when they should have cashed out. There is no doubt that the longer you play this game, and stay in this addiction that it will permanently impact you in some way or another, whether that's physical or mental. I'm not here to tell you not to partake, I'm just here to warn you to know the consequences you are gambling and be prepared for the worst as it will eventually come the longer you play. There was a guy on here not too long ago and after many many years, he finally caught a serious STD, gave it to his wife, so he had to confess his sex addiction and now he's getting a divorce and his life is turning upside down. You pay to play.

Oh yes, I'm well aware BBFS is far riskier then using condoms LOL I'm just voicing I still think it's better then other providers with habits or Asian apartments because atleast the knowledge of knowing she or other providers try to be on top of the game is reassurance. She atleast isn't quick to let people run in there one after the other (probably why people have hard time getting contact right away). Like you said even with a condom it's still a dangerous game but knowing someone is tested and held fast to not let you in instantly is better than 20-40 guys was in someone the same day as you (don't get me wrong even then I still know it's dangerous) and still not knowing if they take any precautions whatsoever. I don't plan on staying in long as I'm going to try and opt out eventually, if I can LOL. Also like you said this can be a addiction because of the level of service some of these women are giving is what's the most fucked up part about this LOL so it becomes hard to steer away. I'm also not really a hardcore guy who sees escorts every chance I get sometimes I go without months on end but still it just takes that one time and it could be game over.

[Masalic]

While I agree with you that a high traffic provider like those girls that won't flinch at licking your ass at Asian massage parlors for a lower price is adding to the risk, you are definitely kidding yourself if you think BBFS isn't an even higher risk. Regardless if Macie is being tested, or taking PrEP pills, all it takes if for an infected customer to taint your Macie 1 time and your now added to the pool of STD.

Porn stars get tested regularly and they all still get tons of STD's, some they treat but there have been many scary AIDS cases which have halted production entirely. Just look it up, an STD in porn is quite common and that's only because it's always BBFS.

Remember when you sleep with someone BBFS you are also sleeping with every other person she's had BBFS with, and even with Condoms if it breaks or the parts around the condom that don't get coverage get on your skin your fucked. This is why cowgirl is more riskier than doggy style, gravity is working entirely against you and you will get infected easier even with condoms..

I would think if you plan to have sex with multiple people either sticking to blowjobs or carrying a pack of condoms with you at all times would be a given. If you should save anything for a serious and committed partner its BBFS.

[AngelBravo]

While I agree with you that a high traffic provider like those girls that won't flinch at licking your ass at Asian massage parlors for a lower price is adding to the risk, you are definitely kidding yourself if you think BBFS isn't an even higher risk. Regardless if Macie is being tested, or taking PrEP pills, all it takes if for an infected customer to taint your Macie 1 time and your now added to the pool of STD.

Porn stars get tested regularly and they all still get tons of STD's, some they treat but there have been many scary AIDS cases which have halted production entirely. Just look it up, an STD in porn is quite common and that's only because it's always BBFS.

Remember when you sleep with someone BBFS you are also sleeping with every other person she's had BBFS with, and even with Condoms if it breaks or the parts around the condom that don't get coverage get on your skin your fucked. This is why cowgirl is more riskier than doggy style, gravity is working entirely against you and you will get infected easier even with condoms.

The truth is that it's clear you simply love the power over a person during sex than sex itself. Truthfully there are many partners that are willing to do this for you as they may like to be submissive. Don't be surprised if you suggest these kinks to your partner and if you slowly show her what you like that she would be willing to comply.

Just remember the porn sex you viewed as a young child isn't really sex. Even pornstars will tell you it's all fake and nobody really enjoys sex that way. That's the other damage you will be causing yourself. You might rob yourself of actually enjoying love with your partner instead of just wanting physical sex. That's a real thing and you'll soon find out if you program yourself enough by staying in this hobby that you won't be able to get it up anymore with regular sex. You'll need the rough stuff to make it work and that's when your in trouble; and will have to work hard to de-program yourself.

These are the things I just want to share with people getting into this hobby, it's like that game show "Deal or No Deal" people keep playing the game thinking the return will get better in the long run but the truth is, their best deals are in the middle of the game and that's when they should have cashed out. There is no doubt that the longer you play this game, and stay in this addiction that it will permanently impact you in some way or another, whether that's physical or mental. I'm not here to tell you not to partake, I'm just here to warn you to know the consequences you are gambling and be prepared for the worst as it will eventually come the longer you play. There was a guy on here not too long ago and after many many years, he finally caught a serious STD, gave it to his wife, so he had to confess his sex addiction and now he's getting a divorce and his life is turning upside down. You pay to play.

I tend to agree with you that this can become an addiction, I'm fairly young, and single so I don't have to run the risk of a S. O catching me. It's funny though because I'm very good looking as well, and don't have issues with real women in life, but my issue is I've been viewing porn since a young boy (which I assume plays a part into many of why'all search for sex work as well) which leads me into looking for the kind of rough, nasty, and hardcore sex you see online that you would never get with a real women. This can be very dangerous as you said, but I believe there are ways to negate the risk of catching something. Such as the one poster who posted in the BBFS thread saying being vaccinated, getting tested regularly, and taking PrEP pills can help negate that risk. Another thing is the quality of providers yall look for. If why'all looking into women who have habits and doesn't care about her health enough to steer clear away from dangerous life destroying drugs, what makes us thinks she would care about her sexual health? That's why I like girls like Macie and another provider I don't wish to share here. Yes, she is BBFS but atleast she is regularly tested, vaccinated, and on PrEP, but even then we know the risk it's just better to know if a female provider is just as cautious as us in this game. I used frequent the Asian apartments and I dont even go there as much anymore because the traffic can get pretty high at those places especially if its a well reviewed girl staying there. Keep in mind escorts are even used in the highest tiers socioeconomic classes. World class business men, millionaires, and billionaires are hiring high class escorts and pornstars.

[Ravsavo9]

I created this thread because I felt we needed a thread to discuss our thoughts and feelings. I realized fairly quickly that this wasn't a hobby at all but instead an addiction.

In many ways that I am sure many relate, it started from trying to solve an intimacy issue. Either because you where lonely or your significant other was no longer satisfying your needs in some way or another.

What I didn't realize and I want many people to know is that this is a very dangerous addiction. Similar to other addictions there are some hidden and visible scar lines. The easy ones to spot are catching an STD. It could be a definitely life changing experience and while many STD's may have a cure, the fact of simply getting caught will wreck many of our lives as it will expose our activities to the significant other.

The other hidden risk is that sex will inevitably change for you. You will get to the point where even having sex with the same person more than a few times won't do it for you anymore. You will latch on to your kinks and maybe that kink is simply sleeping with multiple partners which will be impossible to find in a steady relationship.

Also, this addiction like many others is very expensive and you don't realize how many thousands of dollars you'll go through in a year until you add it all up. For me, I did have some serious 1 on 1 time with myself and had to ask myself a simple question. "What needs to happen for you to stop?, is this the new me? Will I be like this forever. " I ended up fixing my intimate situation and quit cold turkey after that day. However just like any addiction, I still get curious from time to time, even browsing this thread is risky as I'm always afraid it will pull me back in. Nowadays I just check this thread seeing if someone else might need help and was feeling just like I was.

I think if you still want to partake in this addiction, it's fine, but you need to know the risks. Your health, your privacy, risk of getting arrested, risk of getting robbed, killed, or possibly just putting yourself in a bad situation. It's like your health, you don't realize how valuable it is until it starts to fade and this addiction has it's physical and mental risks and I just want you to know what to expect.

I tend to agree with you that this can become an addiction, I'm fairly young, and single so I don't have to run the risk of a S. O catching me. It's funny though because I'm very good looking as well, and don't have issues with real women in life, but my issue is I've been viewing porn since a young boy (which I assume plays a part into many of why'all search for sex work as well) which leads me into looking for the kind of rough, nasty, and hardcore sex you see online that you would never get with a real women. This can be very dangerous as you said, but I believe there are ways to negate the risk of catching something. Such as the one poster who posted in the BBFS thread saying being vaccinated, getting tested regularly, and taking PrEP pills can help negate that risk. Another thing is the quality of providers y’all look for. If why'all looking into women who have habits and doesn't care about her health enough to steer clear away from dangerous life destroying drugs, what makes us thinks she would care about her sexual health? That's why I like girls like Macie and another provider I don't wish to share here. Yes, she is BBFS but atleast she is regularly tested, vaccinated, and on PrEP, but even then we know the risk it's just better to know if a female provider is just as cautious as us in this game. I used frequent the Asian apartments and I dont even go there as much anymore because the traffic can get pretty high at those places especially if its a well reviewed girl staying there. Keep in mind escorts are even used in the highest tiers socioeconomic classes. World class business men, millionaires, and billionaires are hiring high class escorts and pornstars.

[Masalic]

I created this thread because I felt we needed a thread to discuss our thoughts and feelings. I realized fairly quickly that this wasn't a hobby at all but instead an addiction.

In many ways that I am sure many relate, it started from trying to solve an intimacy issue. Either because you where lonely or your significant other was no longer satisfying your needs in some way or another.

What I didn't realize and I want many people to know is that this is a very dangerous addiction. Similar to other addictions there are some hidden and visible scar lines. The easy ones to spot are catching an STD. It could be a definitely life changing experience and while many STD's may have a cure, the fact of simply getting caught will wreck many of our lives as it will expose our activities to the significant other.

The other hidden risk is that sex will inevitably change for you. You will get to the point where even having sex with the same person more than a few times won't do it for you anymore. You will latch on to your kinks and maybe that kink is simply sleeping with multiple partners which will be impossible to find in a steady relationship.

Also, this addiction like many others is very expensive and you don't realize how many thousands of dollars you'll go through in a year until you add it all up. For me, I did have some serious 1 on 1 time with myself and had to ask myself a simple question. "What needs to happen for you to stop?, is this the new me? Will I be like this forever. " I ended up fixing my intimate situation and quit cold turkey after that day. However just like any addiction, I still get curious from time to time, even browsing this thread is risky as I'm always afraid it will pull me back in. Nowadays I just check this thread seeing if someone else might need help and was feeling just like I was.

I think if you still want to partake in this addiction, it's fine, but you need to know the risks. Your health, your privacy, risk of getting arrested, risk of getting robbed, killed, or possibly just putting yourself in a bad situation. It's like your health, you don't realize how valuable it is until it starts to fade and this addiction has it's physical and mental risks and I just want you to know what to expect.

I've already contemplated on this and I've decided when I start it's going to be pretty low frequency. Like once every couple of months or so. I got other hobbies and things I want to do, plus I like to eat and I'm not going to risk my livelihood and going into bankruptcy over this. But at the same time I'm not going to be 35 and still a virgin, I'm sorry.

[AngelBravo]

I created this thread because I felt we needed a thread to discuss our thoughts and feelings. I realized fairly quickly that this wasn't a hobby at all but instead an addiction.

In many ways that I am sure many relate, it started from trying to solve an intimacy issue. Either because you where lonely or your significant other was no longer satisfying your needs in some way or another.

What I didn't realize and I want many people to know is that this is a very dangerous addiction. Similar to other addictions there are some hidden and visible scar lines. The easy ones to spot are catching an STD. It could be a definitely life changing experience and while many STD's may have a cure, the fact of simply getting caught will wreck many of our lives as it will expose our activities to the significant other.

The other hidden risk is that sex will inevitably change for you. You will get to the point where even having sex with the same person more than a few times won't do it for you anymore. You will latch on to your kinks and maybe that kink is simply sleeping with multiple partners which will be impossible to find in a steady relationship.

Also, this addiction like many others is very expensive and you don't realize how many thousands of dollars you'll go through in a year until you add it all up. For me, I did have some serious 1 on 1 time with myself and had to ask myself a simple question. "What needs to happen for you to stop?, is this the new me? Will I be like this forever. " I ended up fixing my intimate situation and quit cold turkey after that day. However just like any addiction, I still get curious from time to time, even browsing this thread is risky as I'm always afraid it will pull me back in. Nowadays I just check this thread seeing if someone else might need help and was feeling just like I was.

I think if you still want to partake in this addiction, it's fine, but you need to know the risks. Your health, your privacy, risk of getting arrested, risk of getting robbed, killed, or possibly just putting yourself in a bad situation. It's like your health, you don't realize how valuable it is until it starts to fade and this addiction has it's physical and mental risks and I just want you to know what to expect.

Well, it's the same song all around the country, just different men singing it. My ex wife was at the point where it was a chore to have sex with me and she wouldn't even meet 1/4 of the way on my fetishism so one day I told her I was done and out. Started a new life 10 years ago and for the most part it has been good. A whole lot of pro's and good nasty sex and the addiction for them that comes with it. It was definitely a super rush in the beginning years, young, nasty, talented girls willing to do anything sexualy and letting you saite your itch and quench your fetishes for the right $ amount. It's definitely a super rush getting them to do these things for a lower $ amount. We all know it use to be easier to get them low range dollar amount than it is now. All the girls in the pictures are just super sluts from my Christmas past lol. But you definitely definitely got to watch your ass tho when playing this game because of all the traps, pitfalls, and setups that come with all this gratification search. All these different fetishes out here from Voyeurism, Masochism, bandage, age play, consensual rape, foot, masturbate, gagging, it's endless. It all depends on what you are into as an individual. I have always loved bbj no spit, to make a working girl suck, gag and deepthroat on your cock forcefully until you explode down her throat and inside her stomach is a satisfying, gratifying sensation indeed. I'm looking for a new one right now to do that with because the one I had in the past is no longer servicing me. Part of the thrill of the hunt is trying to find girls that do nasty things to what ever your top level is, and when they do that to you on multiple occasions they undoubtedly become your ATF. Those 3 letters are definitely a serious thing in this Rogue, Monger game we all play.

[Proton456]

Honestly the main reasons I started looking into this hobby is because.

1. The modern dating scene pretty much requires you to be an unapologetic liar and is pretty much impossible to navigate.

2. I am incredibly blunt and tend to have all the subtlety of a wrecking ball which goes back to my first point of hating liars.

3. I'm someone who very much prefers to get to the point, and the amount most reasonable escorts ask for is about the amount you'd spend on any half way decent date anyway.

4. I'm pretty much horny on main and imo find sexual contact to be more of a gesture of affection then any gift or romance could ever convey.

So it really comes down to a question of "Why should I waste my time putting in the effort and potential humiliation of trying to get into modern dating, when its more straightforward and arguably cheaper to hire a professional? They probably are better in bed too anyway.

Would you say that within one year of a divorce, a man would have done it more times and enjoyed it 10 x more than the prior 20 years of marriage? Just saying.

Wish you could dial back time and live wiser?

[Masalic]

Honestly the main reasons I started looking into this hobby is because.

1. The modern dating scene pretty much requires you to be an unapologetic liar and is pretty much impossible to navigate.

2. I am incredibly blunt and tend to have all the subtlety of a wrecking ball which goes back to my first point of hating liars.

3. I'm someone who very much prefers to get to the point, and the amount most reasonable escorts ask for is about the amount you'd spend on any half way decent date anyway.

4. I'm pretty much horny on main and imo find sexual contact to be more of a gesture of affection then any gift or romance could ever convey.

So it really comes down to a question of "Why should I waste my time putting in the effort and potential humiliation of trying to get into modern dating, when its more straightforward and arguably cheaper to hire a professional? They probably are better in bed too anyway.