Boston Top Ten

**JsppsgFun4** · 11-09-23 13:18

Hello Boston brothers,

Just wanted to post a rolling stone article. With a former federal prosecutors take on the underlying reasons behind it. Noteworthy that he explicitly says the amount of resources devoted to SW that was not involuntary caught my eye as well as what he believes. I don't think the owners / management would be dumb enough to try and extort powerful clients but I do have could believe that some of these really high level people mentioned repeatedly are feared to be vulnerable to being compromised etc.

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/...234873115/amp/

Stay safe.

**FreeWally** · 11-09-23 13:10

Originally Posted by MaggicMikeXX2 [View Original Post]

Can an admin delete my account.

For those worried, LE goes for low hanging fruit and for customers that means catching them in the act. I've written essays on this but the bottom line is they have priorities and a clear MO they stick to. Even with stings being their main MO they still drop most cases before they reach court. They are looking for solid and easy cases and are not going to rely on words as their main source of evidence. Hence the need to catch someone in the act with evidence that entails. 99% of the time that means an undercover agent is the prostitute or the customer via a sting.

With k-orgs you can play with the girl before paying - no undercover policewoman is going to dress up as a sexy Korean girl let alone let you touch them. Money is on the table. No words are exchanged. Those are the three obstacles that a sting solves. They record you agreeing to a sex act for money, they witness you giving money (the policewoman or surveillance testifies to this. An actual Korean prostitute will not), and they testify on the furtherance of the act (getting in a car, entering a room, etc.). This is why police have to stick to this script in 99% of cases, and how they manage 70,000 arrests a year. It is not from hiding in the closet without you or the girl knowing and watching everything. If they managed that, it would only work exactly one time before their cover is blown and the owner is alerted. That is just not going to happen because it is truly a waste of LE's time and doesn't catch their real target.

**FreeWally** · 11-09-23 13:00

Hi, I posted the Boston case yesterday morning in the Los Angeles / OC threads in California, since one arrested was from Torrance:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6670395

Some fun notes:

The most expensive apartment rented was $3,664, and the owners often paid by turning cash into money orders and using the money orders to pay bills and rent. Pretty smart actually! Specifically, Hana sent over $600,000 in money orders, broken up to under $3000 orders so she would not have to show I'd (there is a legal requirement apparently). I can confirm I didn't have to show I'd for money small orders.

They went out of their way to emphasize this is a high end brothel with high end customers charging (relatively) top dollar. Not sure why but they repeated variations of this many times.

For context, back when marijuana was illegal in all 50 states the USA arrested 800,000 people per year for marijuana! In comparison, the USA arrests 70,000 per year for prostitution. The K-orgs are a tiny fraction of this. The arrests are stings and streetwalkers generally, because that's the only way you can make a ton of arrests. If you were try to make an arrest with incall, you get one chance and then your cover is blown (with a sting, your undercover agent just sets up and does it again). Years ago when they busted the Seattle K-org ring, it didn't go much beyond that. Now there are 10 times as many K-orgs as since then. So while there will always be this risk, it is going to go as well as their war on marijuana did. Individuals will suffer, but the industry will just keep growing.

Note that California recently passed and Newsom signed a law preventing police from detaining women for loitering (to investigate them for streetwalking), partly because a few innocent women were also being caught up and harassed by police. So now there are a lot of streetwalkers in California again. I'm for 100% legalization but I'm surprised at this development, here in Socal we post reports on these women just for fun, not even to see them (I wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole when I can just go to a K-org). What a time to be alive.

**ArtArt112** · 11-09-23 12:55

Originally Posted by Spill [View Original Post]

https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/u...t_redacted.pdf

Well decided to swing on here to check out who was good this week and Mannn, why dudes talking to feds? Always play dumb and say nothing. Killing it for the rest of us. BTT was my favorite, I don't get much free time in life and this service was awesome since I don't have have much of a "personal life". Too bad. Any one got a good recommendation you could PM my way. Really dumb this had to go away.

**MaggicMikeXX2** · 11-09-23 12:55

Can an admin delete my account.

**Andir** · 11-09-23 11:49

Originally Posted by Flyguy1980 [View Original Post]

This was a message from BTT. Way too much requested information.

Screening&(All 3, Not 1 of 3).

1. Selfie. Holding your license next to your face.

2. Picture of your I'd. Sensitive info can be hidden. Name and DOB must be shown.

3. Work email verification. Send an email from your work email that has official domain in the address such as. At companyname.com (References or ter or p411, if qualified, instead of work domained email is ok).

Email, type in "Verify..

In the retrospect, this looks like entrapment.

**IrishPlaya** · 11-09-23 11:45

Against the club. I agree. But as they stated,"the investigation is still in its early stages". I'd tie up any loose ends if it was up to me though.

Originally Posted by Bran001 [View Original Post]

Think about the mountain of evidence LE seized. That's where the worry lies.

**DJrunner** · 11-09-23 11:43

So you know for a fact that women were not forced into doing this. Many have to do this to pay off family debts. Before you start spouting off inaccurate information do some research. By the way I used agency and provided information I now regret. Never again will I provide DL or photo.

Originally Posted by Hyperion11 [View Original Post]

My thoughts as well! If confronted by the LE, STFU and get a lawyer. Don't listed to whatever they promise or tell you.

And another note, BTT was asking for so much personal data to verify you, and it didn't help them in the end. So hopefully other agencies learn this. Although I doubt we'll have another agency opening shop in the area.

Why the f* aren't feds doing something really useful instead of this shit? None of the girls were forced into this, none were underage (actually the opposite, some were too old LOL! So much crime in this country and they spend their time with this?

**Hyperion11** · 11-09-23 11:39

Originally Posted by BobORama [View Original Post]

People really need to STFU when confronted by LE after their sessions. I get they might be caught off guard and panic in the heat of the moment, but they need to remember: if you have the right to remain silent during an arrest, why wouldn't you also have the right to remain silent when you're not under arrest?

My thoughts as well! If confronted by the LE, STFU and get a lawyer. Don't listed to whatever they promise or tell you.

And another note, BTT was asking for so much personal data to verify you, and it didn't help them in the end. So hopefully other agencies learn this. Although I doubt we'll have another agency opening shop in the area.

Why the f* aren't feds doing something really useful instead of this shit? None of the girls were forced into this, none were underage (actually the opposite, some were too old LOL! So much crime in this country and they spend their time with this?

**Bob O Rama** · 11-09-23 10:54

Originally Posted by CCChunks [View Original Post]

"On January 27, 2023, agents conducted interviews of sex customers at the 90
Fawcett Street location. During these interviews, which were conducted at around 6:07 p.m. and
7:56 p.m., the customers indicated that they communicated with the phone number -5147
to arrange for appointments for commercial sex in exchange for money at 90 Fawcett"

People really need to STFU when confronted by LE after their sessions. I get they might be caught off guard and panic in the heat of the moment, but they need to remember: if you have the right to remain silent during an arrest, why wouldn't you also have the right to remain silent when you're not under arrest?

**Bran001** · 11-09-23 10:37

Originally Posted by PaulRew [View Original Post]

Guys, just stop with this.

The Feds care about two things: the money trail and the interstate "trafficking" of the girls. I put that in quotes because its BS but when the girls cross state lines it triggers Feds. Same thing with BAD and their Atlanta branch. I have never heard of a single monger getting harassed EVER and I go all the way back to the beginning of Boston K Girls.

Sound advice.

**Bran001** · 11-09-23 10:36

Originally Posted by Hamsd [View Original Post]

Are we at risk? What precautions should we take? Do they intend to go after clients? The language on the news and the document shared seems unclear on that. I'm very worried and scared right now.

It's a little late to take precautions if you've already given a service your I'd and they have your phone and / or IP address records that include communications from you that admit of illegal activity.

No one other than the prosecutors know if they'll "go after" clients. That depends on a lot of factors outside of the law per se. Do the prosecutors see political gain for doing so? Do the prosecutors think that they'll meaningfully deter such activities in the future if they do "name and shame" customers? No one knows.

I'm sure there's a LOT of anxiety right now. Feels awful I am sure. Take care of yourself.

**Bran001** · 11-09-23 10:31

Originally Posted by IrishPlaya [View Original Post]

To delete this entire thread considering how far back it goes &all the 1st hand reports? I personally haven't visited or posted in regards to BTT. But if I had, I'd want this entire thread to be gone! Just my opinion admin.

Think about the mountain of evidence LE seized. That's where the worry lies.

**Bosnas** · 11-09-23 10:09

Originally Posted by PaulRew [View Original Post]

Guys, just stop with this.

The Feds care about two things: the money trail and the interstate "trafficking" of the girls. I put that in quotes because its BS but when the girls cross state lines it triggers Feds. Same thing with BAD and their Atlanta branch. I have never heard of a single monger getting harassed EVER and I go all the way back to the beginning of Boston K Girls.

This. Absolutely this.

Feds are involved because they used the USPS and the crossing of state lines. But anything else will fall within the respective states jurisdiction. In MA, they have to catch you IN THE ACT in order to make the charge stick. A text or a name on a list alone isn't enough. Any lawyer worth their salt can shred that to pieces for a defense.

If the Feds wanted you, they would have taken you by now.

Here's how it will most likely play out.

They will plead out. Money Laundering and Tax Evasion + Prison Time.

It's hard to make Sex Trafficking stick when they got paid / fed and could have left at any time.

Just stay calm, don't get in your head about it and remember that anytime LEO askes you questions. You STFU and invoke your right to remain silent and ask for your attorney.