Corona virus

[Jan Fortifore]

Here is a picture of the woman who died last week:

The lady that just died was a Thai therapist who worked in Waipahu before moving to CC.

I hear that the lady that just died was in really bad shape when they brought her in. The reports were that she was a "provider".

Mahalo Bikini for the information. I worried for friends that may have visited this therapist and / or her close co-workers.

Stay safe, stay home, and stay healthy everyone.

Jan Fortifore.

[Botoman]

Now this makes sense. All the locals who went crowd the beaches today wanted a patsy as a governor so they went chose the Dave. They know they no need listen no more any consequences they just do want they want. Italy same same, they Neva listen, and now their numbers way higher than the norm. New York just like the Dave, they went wait and wait, and then now scrambling.

The corona going spread and spread, until we get some good drugs to kill it, and that going take some time.

Couldn't believe the crowds today, but not surprised, since they went put the Dave in office. My, my how far we have fallen.

What beach?

[Insatiable808]

Seems to me the persons taking the leadership roles in this state in re. To this COVID-19 Pandemic is Kauai Mayor Kawakami & Maui Mayor Victorino. They seem to be upfront, brutally honest & in the forefront in this fight against this Silent Killer.

Ige & Caldwell, not so much. Why so many people at the beaches this weekend on Oahu? C'Mon. , man!

Be Safe,

Insatiable808.

[Bikini]

Here is a picture of the woman who died last week:

[LocaLoppa]

Now this makes sense. All the locals who went crowd the beaches today wanted a patsy as a governor so they went chose the Dave. They know they no need listen no more any consequences they just do want they want. Italy same same, they Neva listen, and now their numbers way higher than the norm. New York just like the Dave, they went wait and wait, and then now scrambling.

The corona going spread and spread, until we get some good drugs to kill it, and that going take some time.

Couldn't believe the crowds today, but not surprised, since they went put the Dave in office. My, my how far we have fallen.

[HiPickle]

You're taking your cues from Candace Owens? You should probably base your opinions on someone more politically neutral if you really want your point to have weight. Talk about someone who is politically motivated to make derogatory comments about the covid response and coverage. Did you know she just announced that she will be running for a political office after years of being a conservative activist? After her barrage of online and tv bashing of democrats and media, she was prodded by Republican followers to run for office (duh). This is hardly a woman without an agenda. She will clearly say things to further her own political interests, aka media bashing. It's like Trump at his rallies when he just yells "fake news" and his audience starts chanting. Mob mentality in action.

She is also infamous for controversial comments like "Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well". Remind you of someone else who has a similar motto? This is per Fox News, which is hardly a left wing media outlet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...for-office.amp

Having said all that, I still don't think you've explained how Trump is benefiting from implementing measures that negatively impact the national economy. You keep saying how the media is gaining something but you don't address how the current wh administration is benefiting from the response. And the response is what you just said is the thing you're taking issue with.

If you fall for the BS where the left says she said anything positive about Hitler, you obviously watch too much CNN. I don't take cues from Fox News either. Can you actually name anyone who isn't politically slanted in any direction? 😏 perhaps you should actually listen to this girl. Not what others tell you she says or a cut up video creation.

Politics aside. Yes, Why would Trump follow the instructions of his medical advisors? Cyanide 585 has a point. What happens to businesses after government has ordered everything closed for too long? According to the emotional, but illogical left, (I say left, but also some on the right) it's irrelevant. When we find out in the end, a little more than the normal average of fatalities from the flu season are the final tally of COVID-19. I'm guessing you didn't read or digest this article. I thought I posted it.

https://freethepeople.org/south-kore...stiatinstitute

It's exactly my thought process. You're questions answered.

[FleshPrince]

If it's missing from the obvious, you need to investigate for yourself. No one is calling it an imagined pandemic, it's the response to it that we argue about.. I'm guessing you didn't hear the reasons Candis Owens mentioned about NY and their financial problems with Cuomo and his antics.

Trump suggest opening up by Easter and he's attacked by the media that he's ignoring his medical experts. Which is it?

You're taking your cues from Candace Owens? You should probably base your opinions on someone more politically neutral if you really want your point to have weight. Talk about someone who is politically motivated to make derogatory comments about the covid response and coverage. Did you know she just announced that she will be running for a political office after years of being a conservative activist? After her barrage of online and tv bashing of democrats and media, she was prodded by Republican followers to run for office (duh). This is hardly a woman without an agenda. She will clearly say things to further her own political interests, aka media bashing. It's like Trump at his rallies when he just yells "fake news" and his audience starts chanting. Mob mentality in action.

She is also infamous for controversial comments like "Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well". Remind you of someone else who has a similar motto? This is per Fox News, which is hardly a left wing media outlet.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox...for-office.amp

Having said all that, I still don't think you've explained how Trump is benefiting from implementing measures that negatively impact the national economy. You keep saying how the media is gaining something but you don't address how the current wh administration is benefiting from the response. And the response is what you just said is the thing you're taking issue with.

[IQuietly]

So is this:

A. An actual pandemic.

B. A leftist media hoax.

C. Hysteria on a world wide scale.

A and C

It's not a leftist media hoax because Fox, even in the beginning while they were downplaying it had a constant banner running at the bottom in big red letter says "Corona Virus Crisis"

The media, all media, is in a vicious feedback loop with social media creating a panic that is overcoming reason.

What real is probably in the middle, it's a thing, wash your hands, avoid crowds help flatten the curve so that more people in the risk groups can have access to medical care but if you're not in the risk groups and you get it you probably won't even know you have it.

Caution, not fear, is what's called for.

A2

[IOnlyCip]

Everybody run around scream and shout.

In three countries now this thing has done the same thing. It tears into the elderly and people with underlying conditions and then people extrapolate that curve across the entire population always ignoring the distribution of deaths by age and underlying conditions and start treating a positive test for Covid as if it is a death sentence, it's not.

Of course there are minors with covid, a friend of mine who retired from a lab job at the NIH thinks that if you tested everybody in the US right now there would probably be 50,000,000 cases. The two minors in this article have a 99.8% chance of making a complete recovery based on the abysmal amount of testing that has been done, most likely their expected recovery rate is something like 99.99 something%.

The data is clear, the distribution is the same across Spain and Italy (Italy which is clearly on the backside and has 14,000 deaths, their normal flu season is 17500 deaths) if you are over 65 with underlying health issues you should be locking yourself down, if you're not then your chances of recovery are really high.

If the US has 100,000 deaths due to covid that's not even 2 X a bad flu year and it's way under the 3,000,000 deaths that happen every year. Maybe it will have 200,000 deaths, that's still 50,000 less deaths than the US has every year due to poverty.

Right now. 00008% of the worlds population has died from C-19, the number of deaths due to the economic fallout because of the hysteria are going to make the corona deaths look small. You created this user simply to troll about Covid so I'm banning it, that's not what this forum is. If you want to troll guys about this then use your real user account. Unless that one was already banned for being a troll.

A2.

Not to butt in on your conversation but, your #s are accurate. The one thing that we are not be told is the fact this has been active since early last fall and it was never identified. I work in the pharma field and have literally had contact with 100's of medical workers. Drs, Nurses, White collars, etc. Oddly enough, since mid September there have been 1000's of flu cases that where pushed back by the labs as negative results yet these people where gravely ill and some parished. At that point, they then write off the death as flu related. As far as our goverment, we are fed so much bull shit about everything that goes on! Why? It's all agendas and visions from different perspectives. Watch the news, 3 channels and a minimum of 3 different stories all with a different spin. The best advise I have ever been given, believe nothing that you hear and half of what you see! In other words, stop watching the TV and live your best life! Whatever that is, it's yours and you make the decisions that reap rewards or failures! News is not news, it has somehow became a twisted game that we dumb fucks let lead us!

[Cyanide585]

I can understand the media benefiting from the coverage of the virus. But you still haven't explained why the other parties would want to create an illusion of a huge pandemic. Why would Trump and other govt officials purposely damage the economy by implementing measures to fight a made up pandemic?

I don't understand how money is a motivating factor for the govt to overhype a pandemic and sabotage its own economy. Please explain your theory.

He's doing this because leftist media would start a daily body count a la the Iraq War. The enemedia would run broadcasts showing some poor soul dying of Covid, and then they'd invite on some deranged panel of Demoncrats explaining why Trump and not China is to blame blah blah blah for said person's death. Hell, they're already trying to run with this narrative, when there's video and social media posts from just weeks ago showing Pelosi, Schumer and others blasting him from trying to stop travel to and from China.

[HiPickle]

I can understand the media benefiting from the coverage of the virus. But you still haven't explained why the other parties would want to create an illusion of a huge pandemic. Why would Trump and other govt officials purposely damage the economy by implementing measures to fight a made up pandemic?

I don't understand how money is a motivating factor for the govt to overhype a pandemic and sabotage its own economy. Please explain your theory.

If it's missing from the obvious, you need to investigate for yourself. No one is calling it an imagined pandemic, it's the response to it that we argue about.. I'm guessing you didn't hear the reasons Candis Owens mentioned about NY and their financial problems with Cuomo and his antics.

Trump suggest opening up by Easter and he's attacked by the media that he's ignoring his medical experts. Which is it?

[FleshPrince]

No one is denying the virus is is problem. Here's another example and reasoning for hype.

If you've not heard about the 1st infant death which isn't. Money, politics and ratings are a few obvious examples.

https://youtu.be/ixC8sNZeau8

I can understand the media benefiting from the coverage of the virus. But you still haven't explained why the other parties would want to create an illusion of a huge pandemic. Why would Trump and other govt officials purposely damage the economy by implementing measures to fight a made up pandemic?

I don't understand how money is a motivating factor for the govt to overhype a pandemic and sabotage its own economy. Please explain your theory.

[Admin2]

https://www.kitv.com/story/41973838/...e-32-new-cases

Fourth death so far, but you were so certain we would have ZERO deaths in Hawaii. How could you have possibly been wrong? You're obviously smarter than all the experts who have been warning everyone about COVID-19.

18,000 deaths from H1 N1 in an entire year. It's been a little less than 2 weeks and deaths in the us from COVID-19 has jumped from 400 to 8,400. Just a bunch of hype BTW.

Everybody run around scream and shout.

In three countries now this thing has done the same thing. It tears into the elderly and people with underlying conditions and then people extrapolate that curve across the entire population always ignoring the distribution of deaths by age and underlying conditions and start treating a positive test for Covid as if it is a death sentence, it's not.

Of course there are minors with covid, a friend of mine who retired from a lab job at the NIH thinks that if you tested everybody in the US right now there would probably be 50,000,000 cases. The two minors in this article have a 99.8% chance of making a complete recovery based on the abysmal amount of testing that has been done, most likely their expected recovery rate is something like 99.99 something%.

The data is clear, the distribution is the same across Spain and Italy (Italy which is clearly on the backside and has 14,000 deaths, their normal flu season is 17500 deaths) if you are over 65 with underlying health issues you should be locking yourself down, if you're not then your chances of recovery are really high.

If the US has 100,000 deaths due to covid that's not even 2 X a bad flu year and it's way under the 3,000,000 deaths that happen every year. Maybe it will have 200,000 deaths, that's still 50,000 less deaths than the US has every year due to poverty.

Right now. 00008% of the worlds population has died from C-19, the number of deaths due to the economic fallout because of the hysteria are going to make the corona deaths look small. You created this user simply to troll about Covid so I'm banning it, that's not what this forum is. If you want to troll guys about this then use your real user account. Unless that one was already banned for being a troll.

A2.

[PowerTrip2]

No one is denying the virus is is problem. Here's another example and reasoning for hype.

If you've not heard about the 1st infant death which isn't. Money, politics and ratings are a few obvious examples.

https://youtu.be/ixC8sNZeau8

https://newsone.com/3848636/candace-...ts-con-artist/

Sure, I'd much rather believe person A over person B simply because it fits my own beliefs. I especially enjoy the idea of you getting your information from an anti-vaccination youtube account. I'm beginning to understand why you're so misinformed about everything.

[HiPickle]

You do realize that anyone can make a video clip to make things look how they want them to look? You need more detail than just a video clip, which could have been taken at any point in time, or at any place for example and passed off as a particular place or time.

But if one were to believe that the reports of overwhelmed hospitals and medical professionals were false, that would mean that the interviews with the doctors and nurses in those hospitals were fake and were done with some good actors.

A burning question in my mind would be: why would the hospitals, medical experts, govt officials, Trump himself and on and on, be conspiring to fabricate the illusion of such a pandemic situation? Maybe you can enlighten me.

No one is denying the virus is is problem. Here's another example and reasoning for hype.

If you've not heard about the 1st infant death which isn't. Money, politics and ratings are a few obvious examples.

https://youtu.be/ixC8sNZeau8