Corona virus

[WinterWarlock]

I've said it before, if nothing else, this whole situation shows all the things broken in our government.

The govt is broken by partisan BS. Both parties are to blame.

[Incogfilipino]

The Admin knew about the virus and its potential consequences very early.

The CDC was not involved with the impeachment, but the science was being ignored by the WH.

If this Admin cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, then keep that in mind in Nov.

Pretty much failure at all levels. Even now, you got Democrats arguing with Republicans over who is more incompetent. Both sides have been horribly incompetent. Media reporting wants to slam Trump, but you can't blame all this bullshit on one man. Not defending him at all, since he doesn't deserve it, but it really is failure at all levels. Then you got slow response with the stimulus / relief package. I see left leaning friends defending how it didn't make it past the Democrats the first go because of all the wack stuff in there. Then after it got passed, they are blaming the Republicans for all the extra stuff in the there. The Democrats voted to pass it too, which means they supported all the shit that was in there. They need to get part of the blame too. Then even after all is said and done. The poorest people who need the money most still don't have it because of how slow our system works. Even in Hawaii, our tax dollars are paying for some state workers to sit at home, getting paid, but not doing any work. Our incompetent ass government locally can't even tell who is idle and who is not. They can't even tell who is doing work and who is not, which is a sign to me that those positions should get eliminated so we don't have to foot the bill for them. Then they can't even shift those workers to help with the major backlog of unemployment claims, because of union agreements. Our government can't even keep the damn servers up for people to make claims on a website. The poor people who need that money get screwed over again. That's failures at so many levels, federal and state. Just watching the news nowadays, makes me want to punch Ige in the face.

I've said it before, if nothing else, this whole situation shows all the things broken in our government.

[Drken]

WW -.

I take it you won't be voting MAGA2020?

LOL!!

For those of you who are fact-based, I think the ex-secretary of state Tillerson put it most succinctly, Trump is a "F*#%ing moron".

[PointDexterJr]

The Admin knew about the virus and its potential consequences very early.

The CDC was not involved with the impeachment, but the science was being ignored by the WH.

If this Admin cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, then keep that in mind in Nov.

WW -.

I take it you won't be voting MAGA2020?

LOL!!

[DRmjm]

Ampaddit, by far the best review on the virus, that includes north korea and russia. God bless the USA.

North Korea has 0 cases and 0 deaths. LOL!

[WinterWarlock]

The Admin knew about the virus and its potential consequences very early.

The CDC was not involved with the impeachment, but the science was being ignored by the WH.

If this Admin cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, then keep that in mind in Nov.

I'm an independent, but I do believe the impeachment that took place from December 18th to February 5th fully occupied the House, Senate and President's attention. The House committees of Intelligence and Foreign Affairs should have been spending a good part of their time investigating China's first reports of the corona virus outbreak. But they were consumed with the impeachment. Congress is also responsible for sounding the alarm bells. If the impeachment did not happen during that time span, I'm sure that a lot more attention would have been focused on China's virus outbreak in December.

China is outright lying about their infections and deaths. No way can a country with over 4 times the population of the US with crowded living conditions and substandard healthcare for a majority of their populace have less cases and deaths than the US. Multiply our known cases and deaths by at least 4 times and that should be at the low end of China's actual known cases and deaths. There's a chance that a second wave of infections could occur if they opened up too fast. They have so many people that there may be quite a few serving as a pool of asymptomatic carriers for viral mutation. The Spanish flu had 3 waves. The second was the worst due to a mutation of the virus. Problem is China won't say anything or downplay it if a second wave did start and the world would get caught by surprise again.

[DreamGirls100]

Almost 60 people get infected more than 2 times. Positive- trearment- negative- new symptom- positive again.

[Craps]

I'm an independent, but I do believe the impeachment that took place from December 18th to February 5th fully occupied the House, Senate and President's attention. The House committees of Intelligence and Foreign Affairs should have been spending a good part of their time investigating China's first reports of the corona virus outbreak. But they were consumed with the impeachment. Congress is also responsible for sounding the alarm bells. If the impeachment did not happen during that time span, I'm sure that a lot more attention would have been focused on China's virus outbreak in December.

China is outright lying about their infections and deaths. No way can a country with over 4 times the population of the US with crowded living conditions and substandard healthcare for a majority of their populace have less cases and deaths than the US. Multiply our known cases and deaths by at least 4 times and that should be at the low end of China's actual known cases and deaths. There's a chance that a second wave of infections could occur if they opened up too fast. They have so many people that there may be quite a few serving as a pool of asymptomatic carriers for viral mutation. The Spanish flu had 3 waves. The second was the worst due to a mutation of the virus. Problem is China won't say anything or downplay it if a second wave did start and the world would get caught by surprise again.

Ampaddit, by far the best review on the virus, that includes north korea and russia. God bless the USA.

[AmpAddict808]

Guys. We can all agree that China's government absolutely lied and is continuing to lie about COVID-19 inside their country. From how many got it, to when it started, to how many died, to how many still have it, to how many are still catching it, to how many are still dying, to when their factories are opening back up, to when their economy is starting back up, to how much they've recovered to how safe it is to go outside.

They're lying their asses off.

HOWEVER.

A competent government would know this, prepare for this, anticipate this, read & take seriously their Intel Agencies reports on this (of which there were many), not deny this publically, prepare for this, lock shit down early, begin testing immediately, not try to personally profit off of this, etc. Etc.

China lied. Trump denied. People died.

Both can be true. And are.

I'm an independent, but I do believe the impeachment that took place from December 18th to February 5th fully occupied the House, Senate and President's attention. The House committees of Intelligence and Foreign Affairs should have been spending a good part of their time investigating China's first reports of the corona virus outbreak. But they were consumed with the impeachment. Congress is also responsible for sounding the alarm bells. If the impeachment did not happen during that time span, I'm sure that a lot more attention would have been focused on China's virus outbreak in December.

China is outright lying about their infections and deaths. No way can a country with over 4 times the population of the US with crowded living conditions and substandard healthcare for a majority of their populace have less cases and deaths than the US. Multiply our known cases and deaths by at least 4 times and that should be at the low end of China's actual known cases and deaths. There's a chance that a second wave of infections could occur if they opened up too fast. They have so many people that there may be quite a few serving as a pool of asymptomatic carriers for viral mutation. The Spanish flu had 3 waves. The second was the worst due to a mutation of the virus. Problem is China won't say anything or downplay it if a second wave did start and the world would get caught by surprise again.

[FleshPrince]

Someone said in theory it could be that large population already caught corona and recovered from it. So what the point of sharing this? Who the fuck cares about your personal theory. Heres some facts. According to Dr. Rashid A. Buttar a ER doctor in the front lines at NYC. He claims that all the CV19 cases of death there are people with underlying health conditions and younger and older people that took other vaccinated shots. Such as flu vaccine. Or adult shingles vaccine ect. , he said that the news media does not accept the data and reports he and his team of doctors reports. He says that the data is twisted by the NEWS stations. The news station do not report the real reports and data he and his team of doctors on the front line reports. He and his colleagues believes that this is to evoke fear. He team of doctors at NYC believe the pathology of CV19 are related to the previous history of vaccines they received. And the deaths cases are all related to the patients underlying health conditions. Go to his website to see the info yourself askdrbuttar.com

Dr Buttar is on the front lines in an ER in an NYC hospital? From what I could find on the internet, he is based in North Carolina. He has been sued several times, including for fraud for promising cancer patients that he could treat them with a 100% chance of success. The patients died, apparently the unproven and disproven methods dr buttar employed did not work and may have worsened the patients' conditions. Either way, it was far from the 100% rate of success he promised them. Oh, and he charged exorbitant fees which he sued to collect from families after the patients died.

Quite the person I would want to use as a resource and base my opinions on (sarcasm in case you didn't detect it).

[LocaLoppa]

Bubba,

Best summary ever. Can we draw the line down to the Dave here? He denied, characteristically procrastinatored it if there is such a wordy, and true to his mentor lied, lied, lied, blame his people, well, same is as same does. Only he couldn't fire the Lt. Gov, LOL. The virus is not going away. It never does. Generations will develop antibodies, science will make vaccine and we will live with it forever. Till then people will get sick and die, simple as that. Trump and Ige fortunately are temporary, and we can change those outcomes by voting. The virus is around until it decides to change, and we will learn to live with it.

Guys. We can all agree that China's government absolutely lied and is continuing to lie about COVID-19 inside their country. From how many got it, to when it started, to how many died, to how many still have it, to how many are still catching it, to how many are still dying, to when their factories are opening back up, to when their economy is starting back up, to how much they've recovered to how safe it is to go outside.

They're lying their asses off.

HOWEVER.

A competent government would know this, prepare for this, anticipate this, read & take seriously their Intel Agencies reports on this (of which there were many), not deny this publically, prepare for this, lock shit down early, begin testing immediately, not try to personally profit off of this, etc. Etc.

China lied. Trump denied. People died.

Both can be true. And are.

[TheSpius19]

Guys. We can all agree that China's government absolutely lied and is continuing to lie about COVID-19 inside their country. From how many got it, to when it started, to how many died, to how many still have it, to how many are still catching it, to how many are still dying, to when their factories are opening back up, to when their economy is starting back up, to how much they've recovered to how safe it is to go outside.

They're lying their asses off.

HOWEVER.

A competent government would know this, prepare for this, anticipate this, read & take seriously their Intel Agencies reports on this (of which there were many), not deny this publically, prepare for this, lock shit down early, begin testing immediately, not try to personally profit off of this, etc. Etc.

China lied. Trump denied. People died.

Both can be true. And are.

[TheSpius19]

Someone said in theory it could be that large population already caught corona and recovered from it. So what the point of sharing this? Who the fuck cares about your personal theory. Heres some facts. According to Dr. Rashid A. Buttar a ER doctor in the front lines at NYC. He claims that all the CV19 cases of death there are people with underlying health conditions and younger and older people that took other vaccinated shots. Such as flu vaccine. Or adult shingles vaccine ect. , he said that the news media does not accept the data and reports he and his team of doctors reports. He says that the data is twisted by the NEWS stations. The news station do not report the real reports and data he and his team of doctors on the front line reports. He and his colleagues believes that this is to evoke fear. He team of doctors at NYC believe the pathology of CV19 are related to the previous history of vaccines they received. And the deaths cases are all related to the patients underlying health conditions. Go to his website to see the info yourself askdrbuttar.com

I'm confused. You ask what the point is in sharing a theory, but then you offer up. Another completely unsubstantiated theory?

[TheSpius19]

Proof positive, you and the rest of the TDS suffering main stream media swallowers are incapable of producing any logical rebuttle. Just because it doesn't fit the narrative you're fed, it's "stupid", and "dangerous" 🤣 It just had to merge into a political pissing contest, as usual. Too bad. Amazingly, the line is drawn between leftist morons who willingly swallow the daily dose and those who question that daily dose. If you trust CNN et al versus the mass of other media outlets who aren't relying on ratings rather than answers, go for it. Stay fed, stay led. 🤙128017;.

And for the record, not that it matters because you're CLEARLY a member of Cult 45, but I'm a lifelong Republican and my primary TV source for news isn't CNN, it's BBC America. But most of my info comes from reading news from legit news sources. You should try it, Captain Project Veritas. LOL.

[TheSpius19]

Proof positive, you and the rest of the TDS suffering main stream media swallowers are incapable of producing any logical rebuttle. Just because it doesn't fit the narrative you're fed, it's "stupid", and "dangerous" 🤣 It just had to merge into a political pissing contest, as usual. Too bad. Amazingly, the line is drawn between leftist morons who willingly swallow the daily dose and those who question that daily dose. If you trust CNN et al versus the mass of other media outlets who aren't relying on ratings rather than answers, go for it. Stay fed, stay led. 🤙128017;.

You are clearly suffering from TDS, that much is sure. Like I said, be well. Hope you don't catch it. In every other way you're beyond saving.