Corona virus

[HiPickle]

THE REVISED ESTIMATE WENT DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DOING AS THEY'RE TOLD.

God, you're dense.

The original estimates included the same requirements of social distancing etc. So, people are doing what they're told? Got it. 👍.

Still waiting for the explanation of my dangerous talk. 😉.

[TheSpius19]

Please explain how I'm endangering lives. 🤔I have no power over anyone. Not appointed or elected. Fouci "ripped" so his word is gospel? Do you have a link where he ripped apart these findings? His modeling theory was for 250,000 dead. Now it's estimated 60,000. That's his words not mine.

THE REVISED ESTIMATE WENT DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE DOING AS THEY'RE TOLD.

God, you're dense.

[AmpAddict808]

Just to keep things in perspective, CDC site says in 2018-2019 that 32.5 million had influenza, 490,000 were hospitalized, and there were 34,000 influenza related deaths. In 2017-2018 influenza season, there were 45 million infected, 800,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza related deaths.

I wish the AMPS were open like they were 3 years back so we can talk about pussy again. Between the closures from prosecutor and LE pressure and COVID-19, the AMPs and the top providers are gone and have become history.

[HiPickle]

The reason I pointed out that Dr bukacek is a staunch Republican is because you seem to have a right wing bias. Almost all if not all the sources that you cite when you make an argument are Right biased. So I simply pointed out that Bukacek is another example of your slant in your use of resources. Just stating an observation.

As for the classification of deaths issue, I think it is reasonable for doctors to classify as a covid death when there are underlying conditions that would NOT have normally caused a death and the doctor is NOT able to specifically identify which condition was more responsible for death.

By the way, when comparisons are made between the covid death rates and other pandemic or flu death rates, how do we know that deaths were not classified the same way for the other non-covid diseases? In other words, were the other flus or pandemic deaths classified using the same logic as covid or not? If underlying conditions complicated the diagnosing of the cause of death in other pandemics how were those deaths classified? You would need to know that to have a true comparison of death rates. Otherwise you're just guessing that one is higher than the other.

If there was no underling cause, no contributing cause, however it should not be classified as such. Obvious stuff, like the baby bowel blockage and others I've heard of. I mean, if a dude smashes his car in a tree, ripping his insides out and tested positive for corona-virus, the virus wasn't the cause. Yes, if a death was caused by the virus tipping some patient over from life support to death. It's certainly a cause.

[HiPickle]

There you go again repeating debunked conspiracy theories.

STOP IT, dude. You're endangering lives with your idiocy.

Fauci already ripped both of these bullshit theories apart. It's pure tin foil hat conspiracy theory. Fucking stupid.

Please explain how I'm endangering lives. 🤔I have no power over anyone. Not appointed or elected. Fouci "ripped" so his word is gospel? Do you have a link where he ripped apart these findings? His modeling theory was for 250,000 dead. Now it's estimated 60,000. That's his words not mine.

[AmpAddict808]

The elderly (even middle aged) dying from this virus have often had their children already. Their genes are already in the gene pool. If the virus was killing the young, prior to breeding, with weak immune systems, then your argument would make more sense.

The virus will take down anyone whose immune system cannot adequately respond whether old or young within this pandemic if exposed. It's not going to spare any susceptible offspring (and their children) of the dying elderly and will remove them from the gene pool if they can't survive being infected. The virus can infect anyone and every generation if exposed. It doesn't discriminate.

[FleshPrince]

You seem to emphasize political slant, F Staunch Republican. Why would that be? Good you're reading it. Your takeaway is that some doctors are saying it isn't unreasonable. If someone dies of heart failure from preexisting condition and he has COVID-19, classifying it as a virus death cause is logical? Some baby dies from bowel blockage, having issues weeks prior then tested positive for virus listed as a virus death ok? There are plenty of examples out there of doctors complaining about this policy. They don't agree either. It throws accuracy out the window. On the other hand, I'm sure there are deaths somewhere unreported as such because they died at home and were untested, but we'll never know. Anyway, turnes out I'm still right about this "Plague". Models were wrong, same amount of deaths as bad flu season. The death numbers must be inflated to support the idiocy of destroying the economy with draconian shutdowns. All models were used with the measures in place, not 250,000 dead, 60,000. It's not over, no, but neither is any virus.

The reason I pointed out that Dr bukacek is a staunch Republican is because you seem to have a right wing bias. Almost all if not all the sources that you cite when you make an argument are Right biased. So I simply pointed out that Bukacek is another example of your slant in your use of resources. Just stating an observation.

As for the classification of deaths issue, I think it is reasonable for doctors to classify as a covid death when there are underlying conditions that would NOT have normally caused a death and the doctor is NOT able to specifically identify which condition was more responsible for death.

By the way, when comparisons are made between the covid death rates and other pandemic or flu death rates, how do we know that deaths were not classified the same way for the other non-covid diseases? In other words, were the other flus or pandemic deaths classified using the same logic as covid or not? If underlying conditions complicated the diagnosing of the cause of death in other pandemics how were those deaths classified? You would need to know that to have a true comparison of death rates. Otherwise you're just guessing that one is higher than the other.

[Insatiable808]

https://thumbor.forbes.com/thumbor/f...6cropY2%3D3379

I would SO do this girl!

Love tuning in to CNN everyday to see her pretty face & pouty mouth!!

SO FRICKIN' HOT!!

Be Safe,

Insatiable808.

[TheSpius19]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...KK8N1g80onGMp4

Or here.

https://youtu.be/_5wn1qs_bBk
Here...
https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/feds-classify-all-coronavirus-patient-deaths-as-covid-19-deaths/?fbclid=IwAR0jEYyGk78HGX8tnBa-DvZZk7Y9tS9C3COecB4rnVTiQtwyvqGGqHInB-0

All over. Not having enough deaths rips the plague narrative away. 😉.

There you go again repeating debunked conspiracy theories.

STOP IT, dude. You're endangering lives with your idiocy.

Fauci already ripped both of these bullshit theories apart. It's pure tin foil hat conspiracy theory. Fucking stupid.

[HiPickle]

True. I'm frustrated by the reaction of hysterics pushed by media and others. Over 38,000 deaths per year by auto accidents, I'd wager this state could easily make a rule to only allow only "Essential" workers to drive in an espoused effort to curb traffic fatalities. Half the voters, especially those that take the bus or don't drive anyway would be, "don't drive, stay alive! Those who fell into the "Essential" category would be all happy no traffic, so they'd all be happy too. 🤣 Just following the crowd to less freedom, for nothing. This state has decimated their number one income producer, tourism, by shutting off everything and expecting it to remain so. Indefinitely really for 4 deaths. I don't know their "cause.

Of death" but I'd wager some just happened to have the virus in their system in the end.

[WinterWarlock]

They survive to pass on their genes to future generations and strengthen the gene pool.

The elderly (even middle aged) dying from this virus have often had their children already. Their genes are already in the gene pool. If the virus was killing the young, prior to breeding, with weak immune systems, then your argument would make more sense.

[AmpAddict808]

Putting politics and blame aside, anyone dying as a result of or complication from a COVID-19 infection is always a sad event. But the cold narrative is that this is nature's way of natural selection. People that are asymptomatic or experience only mild symptoms survive because they have immune systems able to ward off a new virus or microbe better than others. They survive to pass on their genes to future generations and strengthen the gene pool. Nature tends to select from a species the fittest to survive. The cold fact is that is how nature promotes the survival of a species. Of course, with modern medical capabilities, many of the severely ill can be supported and treated to survive.

Let's say there was zero movement of people from China to anywhere else in the world so that the outbreak was limited to only within China. After the epidemic would finish running it's course then their gene pool was enhanced with immunity to this virus while the rest of the world is not. The consequences could be like how the indigenous populations of the New World were ravaged by epidemics caused by new diseases brought by the Europeans during the 1500-1800's. Even in this century the isolated tribes in the Amazon have been affected by disease transmission from contact with the modern world.

[Captain Nemo]

A sign of the times?

[HiPickle]

Okay here we go. Did you actually read the New York Post article that you linked to? Here are passages (direct quotes) from your article:

"Dr. Michael Baden, a Fox News contributor, said it's reasonable to include the death of someone infected with the virus, who also had other health issues, in the COVID-19 body count.

"In the normal course, autopsies would then determine whether the person died of the effects of the COVID virus, whether the person had a brain tumor or brain hemorrhage, for example, that might be unrelated to it and what the relative significance of both the infection and the pre-existing disease is," Baden told Fox News.

"However, the number of autopsies being performed could be low due to the danger of infection, he said.

"Then you will include in those numbers some people who did have a pre-existing condition that would have caused death anyway, but that's probably a small number," Baden said. ".

In the Youtube clip you provided, Dr Bukacek, who is a staunch republican, says that the covid death count is being inflated due to doctors using their best educated guesses to determine cause of death. So when the deceased had underlying health conditions AND covid, if they can't determine specific cause of death, they classify it as covid related death. If you read the New York Post article, Dr Birx stated that that is a small number of deaths compared to the overall number of covid deaths. So it's reasonable to do AND it's not a substantial number anyway.

So tell me again how the death count is being substantially and deliberately overstated to achieve some agenda.

Since the link to the NY Post article you posted didn't work, I will try to post it here. I suggest you read it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....19-deaths/amp/

You seem to emphasize political slant, F Staunch Republican. Why would that be? Good you're reading it. Your takeaway is that some doctors are saying it isn't unreasonable. If someone dies of heart failure from preexisting condition and he has COVID-19, classifying it as a virus death cause is logical? Some baby dies from bowel blockage, having issues weeks prior then tested positive for virus listed as a virus death ok? There are plenty of examples out there of doctors complaining about this policy. They don't agree either. It throws accuracy out the window. On the other hand, I'm sure there are deaths somewhere unreported as such because they died at home and were untested, but we'll never know. Anyway, turnes out I'm still right about this "Plague". Models were wrong, same amount of deaths as bad flu season. The death numbers must be inflated to support the idiocy of destroying the economy with draconian shutdowns. All models were used with the measures in place, not 250,000 dead, 60,000. It's not over, no, but neither is any virus.

[FleshPrince]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...KK8N1g80onGMp4

Or here.

https://youtu.be/_5wn1qs_bBk
Here...
https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/feds-classify-all-coronavirus-patient-deaths-as-covid-19-deaths/?fbclid=IwAR0jEYyGk78HGX8tnBa-DvZZk7Y9tS9C3COecB4rnVTiQtwyvqGGqHInB-0

All over. Not having enough deaths rips the plague narrative away. 😉.

Okay here we go. Did you actually read the New York Post article that you linked to? Here are passages (direct quotes) from your article:

"Dr. Michael Baden, a Fox News contributor, said it's reasonable to include the death of someone infected with the virus, who also had other health issues, in the COVID-19 body count.

"In the normal course, autopsies would then determine whether the person died of the effects of the COVID virus, whether the person had a brain tumor or brain hemorrhage, for example, that might be unrelated to it and what the relative significance of both the infection and the pre-existing disease is," Baden told Fox News.

"However, the number of autopsies being performed could be low due to the danger of infection, he said.

"Then you will include in those numbers some people who did have a pre-existing condition that would have caused death anyway, but that's probably a small number," Baden said. ".

In the Youtube clip you provided, Dr Bukacek, who is a staunch republican, says that the covid death count is being inflated due to doctors using their best educated guesses to determine cause of death. So when the deceased had underlying health conditions AND covid, if they can't determine specific cause of death, they classify it as covid related death. If you read the New York Post article, Dr Birx stated that that is a small number of deaths compared to the overall number of covid deaths. So it's reasonable to do AND it's not a substantial number anyway.

So tell me again how the death count is being substantially and deliberately overstated to achieve some agenda.

Since the link to the NY Post article you posted didn't work, I will try to post it here. I suggest you read it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost....19-deaths/amp/