Corona virus

[FleshPrince]

It's fairly simple, doesn't take a rocket scientist, the media is BIAS, when you have bias you have an agenda, Pushing a particular medication in a lot of cases is political and money driven, I work in a hospital and we are paid more to initially code and designate patience with let say influenza as covid so we get more money. Do you know the difference between, influenza, pneumonia and covid? .

Are you a doctor? Who are the hospital personnel responsible for "coding" or "designating" illnesses of "patience" as covid or something else?

[Carl1985]

It's fairly simple, doesn't take a rocket scientist, the media is BIAS, when you have bias you have an agenda, Pushing a particular medication in a lot of cases is political and money driven, I work in a hospital and we are paid more to initially code and designate patience with let say influenza as covid so we get more money. Do you know the difference between, influenza, pneumonia and covid? Hundreds of thousands die from influenza but the media doesn't talk about that. Why? Why is the influenza rate lowest in history and covid rates high? People that push a risky vaccine on people ether have an agenda whatever that may be or they do not know the full story and just listing to the politicians and media. I "choose" to get vaccinated for the reasons I stated. It's up to the individual if they want to or not. I advocate and promote individual rights and knowledge. I would NOT however, recommend people to get vaccinated if they had covid and recovered. I would NOT recommend this vaccine for children.

I read your post and I don't really understand it. On the one hand, you're advising people to not believe the media, nor hospitals, nor people who say that getting the vaccine is a good idea because those people are pushing a political agenda. But on the other hand, you're advocating for the vaccine in your post. You sound like a proponent of the vaccine and a semi- proponent of masks. How can you advocate for this stuff but simultaneously tell people to rebel against PEOPLE WHO ADVISE the public to do the same thing you are advocating? I must be missing something.

[Me Cook]

I like see your guys faces when you find out that the jab was part of a binary b10 wep0 n that you voluntarily took

Bumbai bachi.

You are not afraid of the government coming to get you for reporting that top secret info that you have acquired? Or did you get it backwards and the government is going to release the bio weapon and only those that didn't get the shots will die?

I would think that the government would rather keep the ones that do as they are told and only get rid of the ones that disobey.

You are one brave guy.

[LocaLoppa]

No criticism, hate, distain just no make any sense to throw any more of my tax dollars trying to get everyone vaccinated. Let them go. Spend the money on more important things.

Wow, so the vaccine is really a biological weapon? Now, that is not Natural Selection, but. A. purge. No can trust anybody. Anymore.

Why such harsh criticisms for those not vaxed? No can live and let live? This not the forum where people say To Each His Own? So be it. Everyone's Mileage May Vary. Is this not America where we have the Freedom of choice?

Exhaled aerosols can be as small as 0. 2 micrometers = 200 nanometers. The rona is said to be 80-140 nanometers. We are really supposed to walking around wearing 3 M P100 hepa filter respirators if you want to be safe at 99.97% efficiency at 0. 3 microns.

Some people have jobs that did not shut down due to rona. They have been working right through it this whole time while the rest of the state got shut down. A place that employs 6000 people, but a huge chunk of that workforce went on leave during the state shut down. A place where new personnel is flown in every month to swap out with other personnel. And till this day, the coconut wireless has only brought up 1 person that recently passed away from rona, post jab period. People don't realize, that in such cases, certain entities do not have to disclose case counts. There are hundreds of people that work in this type of clandestine hot spot, many unvaxed, they seen people pop hot on tests. Then the contact tracing, then 20 employees go on leave for isolation for 2 weeks. Prior to the vax, these workers seen lots of people take rona tests. Some entities required a negative test for you to enter their space, they get swabbed and 15 minutes later they find out if they get to enter the space or not..

[GreenTrees]

Good one, Mits. Game is over, na na na, hey, hey, goodbye, LOL.

All these unvaccinated are like that second rate nfl QB kaperdilly--only half way committed, didn't risk everything, hurting others along with themselves, pretty selfish stuff.

No more excuses, no more attention, tests, no more. Done. Let them go, isolate on the Big Island somewhere under the volcano or at home with their entire family.

Why such harsh criticisms for those not vaxed? No can live and let live? This not the forum where people say To Each His Own? So be it. Everyone's Mileage May Vary. Is this not America where we have the Freedom of choice?

Exhaled aerosols can be as small as 0. 2 micrometers = 200 nanometers. The rona is said to be 80-140 nanometers. We are really supposed to walking around wearing 3 M P100 hepa filter respirators if you want to be safe at 99.97% efficiency at 0. 3 microns.

Some people have jobs that did not shut down due to rona. They have been working right through it this whole time while the rest of the state got shut down. A place that employs 6000 people, but a huge chunk of that workforce went on leave during the state shut down. A place where new personnel is flown in every month to swap out with other personnel. And till this day, the coconut wireless has only brought up 1 person that recently passed away from rona, post jab period. People don't realize, that in such cases, certain entities do not have to disclose case counts. There are hundreds of people that work in this type of clandestine hot spot, many unvaxed, they seen people pop hot on tests. Then the contact tracing, then 20 employees go on leave for isolation for 2 weeks. Prior to the vax, these workers seen lots of people take rona tests. Some entities required a negative test for you to enter their space, they get swabbed and 15 minutes later they find out if they get to enter the space or not.

I like see your guys faces when you find out that the jab was part of a binary b10 wep0 n that you voluntarily took, so technically it is not a human rights violation. Trust the science. In the end, you might be wishing that those vials were really just filled with pure water and that it was just a pure water injection. If that jab is part of a binary wep, embrace the suck. Some people no like the jab because they know that rona passed thru oahu in Dec. 2019 thru Feb. 2020 and they been working in the hot zone the whole time while the island was shutdown. But others can trust the science, that's how it is for General Population, while those that got exposed over a year ago possibly have natural immunity now so why should they take the jab, better off give it to someone else that trust the science and needs the immunity that the jab will provide. Taking the jab when you have natural immunity could be seen as wasteful.

Bumbai bachi.

[FleshPrince]

LOL. Yes. I sure did. Thanks for clarifying.

To further clarify, I'm not faulting him for supporting getting the vaccine. I'm just pointing out that his post was sorta contradictory against himself.

[Me Cook]

You completely missed my point. My point was that carl1985 stated in his post to "never ever ever" listen to those who are pushing for the vaccine because they are political puppets. Yet, he ironically said that he "highly recommends getting the two shot treatment" so that your body can fight the virus if you do contract it. So my point is he sure sounds like someone who is pushing for people to get the vaccine. Which makes him one of the people who everyone should not listen to, right? In other words it seems hypocritical or hella ironic to say the least. That's all.

LOL. Yes. I sure did. Thanks for clarifying.

[FleshPrince]

Yes. You missed something. Carl1985 has a similar view as mine except about his views on getting the flu shot.

It is a personal matter dealing with one's health and the government has little business to make somebody to get vaccinated when they can get major health issues from the vaccine itself. I got real sick from it for a couple of days. Forcing people to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has some health risks for some sounds a bit communistic and not so American where you generally have the freedom to do stupid things and die because of it. I have heard about people getting major health problems from the vaccine. Or is that also fake news?

My views about the COVID shot are similar to my views about mongering. Should the government have the right to tell me that I am not allowed to go mongering because people can spread diseases that way? Should I force a provider to do bareback if she is not willing to take that risk? Since the government has made it illegal to go mongering I guess the government has to ability to make not getting the vaccine or not wearing a mask illegal as well. Doesnt mean that I agree with that view.

We all should be able to decide what risks we should take and not have that forced upon us. Although I believe that risks in getting the vaccine is less than not getting the vaccine doesn't give me the right to make that decision for you. If this vaccine was 100% safe then you would have a stronger case to force people to do it. That is the piece of the argument that you seem to have missed.

I got the COVID shots and I don't think it will prevent me from getting COVID at all now. I believe that it will hopefully let me have no symptoms or just mild symptoms that will keep me out of the hospital and dying when I do get it. But I still get a 15% chance of the vaccine of having no effect at all. This is the way this new kind of vaccine seems to be working.

You completely missed my point. My point was that carl1985 stated in his post to "never ever ever" listen to those who are pushing for the vaccine because they are political puppets. Yet, he ironically said that he "highly recommends getting the two shot treatment" so that your body can fight the virus if you do contract it. So my point is he sure sounds like someone who is pushing for people to get the vaccine. Which makes him one of the people who everyone should not listen to, right? In other words it seems hypocritical or hella ironic to say the least. That's all.

[MitsFunai]

Natural Selection will fast forward on Maui and Waianae / West Oahu among the unvaccinated--I predict 80% will get sick. Bet you dollar, LOL. Make the strong stronger.

Ho, if 80% Westside get sick then all wipeout over there. Crime (arson, attempted murder, murder, animal cruelty, fraud, etc.) and societal problems (homelessness, domestic violence, abuse, etc.) all going down; going be lonely out there but get enough shat all over the island chain for cover the losses. According to news, efficacy of the original vaccines down to 60% now (due to the variant (s)) so guarans going need the voluntary booster for 9 X efficacy and hopefully cover the Lambda; pretty good and worth it (better than long term illness / symptoms, and / or one undignified death). I wish finish already so can go KB with complete confidence.

[MitsFunai]

I wonder, do they also don't believe in the vaccines for polio and smallpox? I guess those vaccines didn't work either. The flu vaccine has not all of the strains of flu that is out there. They guess and pick the ones that they believe will become the most widespread and most dangerous for the upcoming flu season. They don't always get that right. COVID still doesn't have that many mutations yet so a seasonal COVID shot might be a lot more effective than the flu shot. Way too many cold viruses to even try.

One 'blockbuster' drug is 80-85% efficacy for the population; asking for 100% efficacy is showing beaucoup naivete, being arcane and unrealistic. The vaccines are doing what they were designed to do for its recipients and, due to the variant (s), we probably going need one booster (still being debated; ask your doctor about your particular case). Anyway, vaccination stay moot already (the Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved) and the flu shot is separate; no get information from the lolos online (ask one qualified, respected medical professional; second opinion if you must). No can eat personal choices and liberties-starvation going happen if personally inflexible and no can use the fn upper head. If some people no can because they born that way and their DNA prevents this, then no can help and no more chance, IMO.

[Me Cook]

I read your post and I don't really understand it. On the one hand, you're advising people to not believe the media, nor hospitals, nor people who say that getting the vaccine is a good idea because those people are pushing a political agenda. But on the other hand, you're advocating for the vaccine in your post. You sound like a proponent of the vaccine and a semi- proponent of masks. How can you advocate for this stuff but simultaneously tell people to rebel against PEOPLE WHO ADVISE the public to do the same thing you are advocating? I must be missing something.

Yes. You missed something. Carl1985 has a similar view as mine except about his views on getting the flu shot.

It is a personal matter dealing with one's health and the government has little business to make somebody to get vaccinated when they can get major health issues from the vaccine itself. I got real sick from it for a couple of days. Forcing people to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has some health risks for some sounds a bit communistic and not so American where you generally have the freedom to do stupid things and die because of it. I have heard about people getting major health problems from the vaccine. Or is that also fake news?

My views about the COVID shot are similar to my views about mongering. Should the government have the right to tell me that I am not allowed to go mongering because people can spread diseases that way? Should I force a provider to do bareback if she is not willing to take that risk? Since the government has made it illegal to go mongering I guess the government has to ability to make not getting the vaccine or not wearing a mask illegal as well. Doesnt mean that I agree with that view.

We all should be able to decide what risks we should take and not have that forced upon us. Although I believe that risks in getting the vaccine is less than not getting the vaccine doesn't give me the right to make that decision for you. If this vaccine was 100% safe then you would have a stronger case to force people to do it. That is the piece of the argument that you seem to have missed.

I got the COVID shots and I don't think it will prevent me from getting COVID at all now. I believe that it will hopefully let me have no symptoms or just mild symptoms that will keep me out of the hospital and dying when I do get it. But I still get a 15% chance of the vaccine of having no effect at all. This is the way this new kind of vaccine seems to be working.

[FleshPrince]

Like getting the flu shot getting the vaccine should be an individual choice. My personally feeling is, First, Never believe these numbers you read in the media and the ones coming out of the hospitals can be inflated as well. . Secondly, people pushing other people to get vaccinated are pushing a political agenda, never ever ever listen to them. They are political puppets.

For people that want the truth and people considering getting vaccinated, The pfizer and moderna vaccines using mRNA delivery seem to be safer then the older way of producing these vaccines using traditional virus-based technology called adenovirus. Like the J&J method. I have never got a flu shot in my life, I know that by the time the flu shot comes out, another mutated flu strain is already out and the current vaccine is not relevant, they have used the adenovirus techniques for flu shots. Having said that, the mRNA vaccines they have developed for covid-19 specifically using spike protein are safer (pfizer and moderna) and I would highly recommend getting the two shot's treatment so when you do get covid your body will have some soldiers within your immunity system to help fight the virus so you don't end up in the hospital. There are no guarantees that you won't end up in the hospital, but your chances are better, you might not get as sick or you might not even get symptoms. Also, You can get covid being vaccinated, you can be a carrier passing covid with no symptoms. It's called Asymptomatic. People that had covid and recovered have already built immunity so I would never recommend getting vaccinated for these people as they get ALL the risk with no benefit. I wish I had covid and recovered but I didn't, I'm vaccinated. But that doesn't help ANYONE but me.

I read your post and I don't really understand it. On the one hand, you're advising people to not believe the media, nor hospitals, nor people who say that getting the vaccine is a good idea because those people are pushing a political agenda. But on the other hand, you're advocating for the vaccine in your post. You sound like a proponent of the vaccine and a semi- proponent of masks. How can you advocate for this stuff but simultaneously tell people to rebel against PEOPLE WHO ADVISE the public to do the same thing you are advocating? I must be missing something.

[LocaLoppa]

Good one, Mits. Game is over, na na na, hey, hey, goodbye, LOL.

All these unvaccinated are like that second rate nfl QB kaperdilly--only half way committed, didn't risk everything, hurting others along with themselves, pretty selfish stuff.

No more excuses, no more attention, tests, no more. Done. Let them go, isolate on the Big Island somewhere under the volcano or at home with their entire family.

The rest who care can wear masks, get booster, social distance. Natural Selection will fast forward on Maui and Waianae / West Oahu among the unvaccinated--I predict 80% will get sick. Bet you dollar, LOL.

And all the states who proudly stood strong against the government -- please, please, please go all the way now and refuse any and all new drugs, vaccinations, for you and your family. Natural Selection, baby, be a part of History!

Wondering why the unvaccinated even bother to have their kids and themselves take any shots at all--should punt on all vaccines, all boosters, flu shots, heck, even new antibiotics count here-.

Be 100% committed and live the conspiracy theories out to the limit--don't let the government tell you want to do.

I fully support and applaud all those who don't take another vaccine or shot, and prevent their kids from doing it too. You have my support folks, 100% all in.

Now, you be all in, too, and embrace the commitment. Lucky we live America, free will, free will.

Come on, Gov, you on the right track. Let them go already--spend the. Money on the vaccinated, and all the business that comply should be rewarded. Make the strong stronger.

Yups, looks like game over already for the chosen unvaccinated. Since get FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine they no can win on the science already. So they stay looking for other / new excuses: (1) the public process and (2) independent oversight; they going try beat these two mechanisms to one pulp and going take long time. In the meantime, I guess they no know that more people going get sick and die for nothing. Sadly, 'time did tell' and when run out (with no overtime), IMO.

[Me Cook]

Yups, looks like game over already for the chosen unvaccinated. Since get FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine they no can win on the science already. So they stay looking for other / new excuses: (1) the public process and (2) independent oversight; they going try beat these two mechanisms to one pulp and going take long time. In the meantime, I guess they no know that more people going get sick and die for nothing. Sadly, 'time did tell' and when run out (with no overtime), IMO.

I wonder, do they also don't believe in the vaccines for polio and smallpox? I guess those vaccines didn't work either.

The flu vaccine has not all of the strains of flu that is out there. They guess and pick the ones that they believe will become the most widespread and most dangerous for the upcoming flu season. They don't always get that right. COVID still doesn't have that many mutations yet so a seasonal COVID shot might be a lot more effective than the flu shot.

Way too many cold viruses to even try.

[ReallyOldGuy]

Read that it's for deworming horses. Guess it works deworming people too.

Enjoy life, rog.

Oh, forgot to add. If they die from covid and go to their graves, the worms will get them anyway. Enjor life, rog.