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  1. #1124
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    Quote Originally Posted by YogiBear007  [View Original Post]
    Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.
    I, for one, have no sympathy for the ones who chose not to get vaccinated. It's been approved so what's the problem? It's a means of staying alive. The doctors have a choice too. They can choose who they feel has the best chance to survive. It's coming to that there has already been discussion.

  2. #1123

    Sign your death wish

    Quote Originally Posted by MitsFunai  [View Original Post]
    All this unvax and crybaby philosophy; let's go "real world. " As the unvaccinated are becoming the bane of the medical, insurance carriers, social, health care (and much more) world, they will be (1) rationed for COVID-related medical care; (2) scrutinized and responsible for COVID-related health care insurance copays; (3) long-termers for COVID health after effects; (4) TBA.

    All because: "Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us." I beg to differ. These are times of emergency conditions and the unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse because "Thats their choice."
    Yes, I would agree, stupid people who signed their death wish by refusing to vaccinate should do everyone a favor and go jump off the cliff and not take anyone else with them as in the case when they catch COVID-19, then expect to go to the front of the line taking up valuable ICU and hospital beds when they had a choice to get the vaccination shots. What do you say to parents who got the shots and taken every pre-caution to protect their school age kids who have no choice in this matter because they are too young to get vaccinated, but somehow catch COVID-19 and told "sorry brudda, no more ICU or hospital beds for your son / daughter" Now the question remains, should the hospital base their tri-age decision between and older mature anti-vac person or a youngster that has a bright future ahead who had no choice in this matter? If was I, I would put that anti-vac patient on a wheel barrow and dump him on the street to make room for that school age kid.

  3. #1122
    Quote Originally Posted by YogiBear007  [View Original Post]
    Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.
    All this unvax and crybaby philosophy; let's go "real world. " As the unvaccinated are becoming the bane of the medical, insurance carriers, social, health care (and much more) world, they will be (1) rationed for COVID-related medical care; (2) scrutinized and responsible for COVID-related health care insurance copays; (3) long-termers for COVID health after effects; (4) TBA.

    All because: "Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us." I beg to differ. These are times of emergency conditions and the unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged because "Thats their choice." Lastly, if they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits.

  4. #1121
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny14  [View Original Post]
    I was just at Queens Hospital yesterday for a routine check up and asked the doctor how he felt about those anti-vaccinators filling up the critical ICU and bedspaces. He was hesitant at first and asked me, so I told him that these people had a choice to get the vaccine but choose not to and now what gives them the right to move to the front of the line and take up valuable bedspace while denying others who have no choice in this matter, but told to hold off on their scheduled appointments. He nodded in agreement, but can't voice his opinion because he has taken an oath to help all those in need of treatment regardless. Because COVID-19 is a bio-weapon, in the interest of public safety, I think all should be given the shots and those who still refuse, should sign a waiver forgoing treatment to take this burden off the hospital staff so they can psychologically be exempt from making this decision, which was already decided by the anti-vax people for refusing to take the shots. The governor has no balls neither are your coward politicians to take a lead in this matter.
    Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.

  5. #1120

    Sos

    Quote Originally Posted by OldDickie  [View Original Post]
    5. CDC Website, Vaccines & Immunizations, Immunization: The Basics accessed on the 12th January from https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm.
    6. US Food and Drug Administration Website, Medical Device Overview, accessed on the 12th January from https://www.fda.gov/industry/regulat...evice-overview#What%20 is%20 a%20 medical%20 device.
    A vaccine is designed to PREVENT infection. The mRNA injection lessens symptoms IF you come down with the disease. There are many other treatment options available if you come down with the COVID.
    #5, Here it is: "Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines: mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. Learn about how COVID-19 mRNA vaccines work (taken directly from your citation above). ".

    #6, Reuters Fact Check: "In it a man referred to as "Dr David Martin", who has been linked to previous misinformation about the pandemic is seen speaking on a video call. In the clip, Martin claims that the vaccine is not actually a vaccine, but a "medical device" that makes people sick. "

    To wit: The Delta variant causes more infections and spreads faster than earlier forms of the virus that causes COVID-19. It might cause more severe illness than previous strains in unvaccinated people (CDC 24/7).

    (1) Vaccines continue to reduce a person's risk of contracting the virus that cause COVID-19, including this variant; (2) Vaccines continue to be highly effective at preventing hospitalization and death, including against this variant; (3) Fully vaccinated people with breakthrough infections from this variant appear to be infectious for a shorter period; (4) Get vaccinated and wear masks indoors in public spaces to reduce the spread of this variant.
    Note: "Dr. David Martin" is not a medical doctor but featured on ultra-conservative media vehicles (such as 'bitchute') known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.

  6. #1119

    Anti-vax stupidity

    Quote Originally Posted by Blake123  [View Original Post]
    Ok...Their body; their choice. Sad that it had to end this way for this young couple. RIP.

    Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers continue to dominate the space at Queens. Their body; their choice.
    I was just at Queens Hospital yesterday for a routine check up and asked the doctor how he felt about those anti-vaccinators filling up the critical ICU and bedspaces. He was hesitant at first and asked me, so I told him that these people had a choice to get the vaccine but choose not to and now what gives them the right to move to the front of the line and take up valuable bedspace while denying others who have no choice in this matter, but told to hold off on their scheduled appointments. He nodded in agreement, but can't voice his opinion because he has taken an oath to help all those in need of treatment regardless. Because COVID-19 is a bio-weapon, in the interest of public safety, I think all should be given the shots and those who still refuse, should sign a waiver forgoing treatment to take this burden off the hospital staff so they can psychologically be exempt from making this decision, which was already decided by the anti-vax people for refusing to take the shots. The governor has no balls neither are your coward politicians to take a lead in this matter.

  7. #1118

    Filled with Darwin Award winners and nominees


  8. #1117
    Quote Originally Posted by Blake123  [View Original Post]
    Ok...Their body; their choice. Sad that it had to end this way for this young couple. RIP. Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers continue to dominate the space at Queens. Their body; their choice.
    Local epidemiological MD (Queen's Punchbowl) was attempting to provide an analysis on the mindset of an "antivaxxer (KITV, 09/17/2021). " His reply was one of confusion, disgust and disdain at antivaxxers because the vaccines (those approved by the FDA) have been, in paraphrasing his words, "marvelous, safe and effective as shown from data and clinical trials; I have provided formulae and made such vaccines in the past. ".

    Back to the mindset of antivaxxers, he suggested that they have a strong need to be seen, heard, understood, successful and recognized; emotional needs that they are desperate to experience (but have never gotten). It all stems from birth, childhood and DNA, IMO.

  9. #1116
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike4346  [View Original Post]
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-c...155144869.html

    Let them die, ainokea.

    Say 10 wins.
    Ok...Their body; their choice. Sad that it had to end this way for this young couple. RIP.

    Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers continue to dominate the space at Queens. Their body; their choice.
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  10. #1115
    Quote Originally Posted by OldDickie  [View Original Post]
    The mRNA injections are a therapeutic. The company literature from Moderna and Pfizer even say it is not a vaccine. You probably also think that these masks people stop the virus. Again, check the box they come in. Says clearly the mask do not protect against the SARS-2 virus.
    Take one pikcha and show (no buy cheap kine masks; buy the surgical or N95 one); show your credible evidence and citation(s). You know how?
    Quote Originally Posted by OldDickie  [View Original Post]
    You are misinformed. Children are not, and have not, been statistically affected by COVID. You're mistaking testing positive for the SARS-2 virus with actually being sick with COVID. How many children without complications have been hospitalized with or died from COVID? Look it up.
    You look it up and show your mistakes; show your credible evidence and citation(s). You mad?

  11. #1114

    The difference between a "vaccine" and the mRNA injection explained

    Here is one explanation from an Israeli source:

    "What they are being asked to inject is not a vaccine as defined by the CDC as "A product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease. " (5) Rather, it is an experimental and novel technology. By definition of the FDA (6) as a component used as treatment to affect a body's function, it is in fact a medical device, a physical device that comes in a molecular sized package. ".

    5. CDC Website, Vaccines & Immunizations, Immunization: The Basics accessed on the 12th January from https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm.

    6. US Food and Drug Administration Website, Medical Device Overview, accessed on the 12th January from https://www.fda.gov/industry/regulat...evice-overview#What%20 is%20 a%20 medical%20 device.

    A vaccine is designed to PREVENT infection.

    The mRNA injection lessens symptoms IF you come down with the disease.

    There are many other treatment options available if you come down with the COVID.

  12. #1113

    Covid

    I'm sick of covid-19. I'm sick of black vs white. I'm sick of democrats vs republican. I'm sick of gay vs straight. I'm sick of Christians vs atheist. I'm really sick of the media I'm sick of no one being allowed to think what they want and feel what they do without offending someone. I'm sick of the nosey ass people who call the cops when anyone does anything they don't approve of. I'm sick of blaming the whole for the sins of a few.

    We're one race the human race. You want to support the vaccine? You do so. It's your choice you want to support the unvaccinated fine also your choice. You want to believe in god? Okay believe in god. You want believe in magical creatures that fly around and sprinkle fairy dust to make life better? Awesome you do you. But stop bullying and thrusting your beliefs on others and not being able to deal with the fact that everyone doesn't have the same mindset as you. Having our own minds is what makes us all individual and beautiful. If you can't handle the fact that you may have a friend that has opposing views as you, then you are not any better than the bigots and the racists. Not everyone has to agree with everything you believe in to be a decent human being. By the way I have friends covering all the above LOL stay safe fellow mongers.

  13. #1112
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsFunai  [View Original Post]
    MRNA "shots" are vaccines; they protect against infectious diseases. MRNA vaccines teach our cells how to make a protein or even just a piece of a protein that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. The benefit of mRNA vaccines, like all vaccines, is those vaccinated gain protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19. Prove me wrong. Or better yet, prove yourself right, as it relates to COVID 19.
    Oh, you guyses go check on the "negative effects of instagram on mental health" study (for teens, regulars and teens-like mentalities) just came out recently; then maybe youse guys understand.
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    The mRNA injections are a therapeutic. The company literature from Moderna and Pfizer even say it is not a vaccine.

    You probably also think that these masks people stop the virus. Again, check the box they come in. Says clearly the mask do not protect against the SARS-2 virus.

  14. #1111
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsFunai  [View Original Post]
    This is one big, bad, boldface, harmful, pilau lie ("As Hawaii sees a rise in youth COVID cases, doctors and medical leaders say children under 12, who can't get vaccinated, are susceptible to the delta variant. The state Health Department reported that COVID cases among children 17 and under made up 17% of all infections in Hawaii (HNN, 09/10/2021)). " There are youth deaths nationwide (516 deaths, 0-18 yo, 09/15/2021, DATA. CDC. Gov).
    You are misinformed. Children are not, and have not, been statistically affected by COVID.

    You're mistaking testing positive for the SARS-2 virus with actually being sick with COVID.

    How many children without complications have been hospitalized with or died from COVID?

    Look it up.

    Overall, 660 people have died since the start out of a total state population of 1,250,000.

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  15. #1110

    Youth COVID Bu Laia

    Quote Originally Posted by OldDickie  [View Original Post]
    This whole thing has been overblown for political reasons. It is highly age stratified. If you are young with no complications you are safe.
    This is one big, bad, boldface, harmful, pilau lie ("As Hawaii sees a rise in youth COVID cases, doctors and medical leaders say children under 12, who can't get vaccinated, are susceptible to the delta variant. The state Health Department reported that COVID cases among children 17 and under made up 17% of all infections in Hawaii (HNN, 09/10/2021)). " There are youth deaths nationwide (516 deaths, 0-18 yo, 09/15/2021, DATA. CDC. Gov).

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