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  1. #9314

    Look through posts, she's been reviewed here

    Quote Originally Posted by SpringTurk  [View Original Post]
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ampa/52843018/#.

    Anyone tried this one, a few comments on listcrawler and one brand new very short review. Thanks.
    On my end, I blew off a date with her after she refused to procede without sending a picture. Pics are for high class screening, and the reports on this chick were she's hot, but not into it. And her pimp beats her so bad that one of our members has seen her new scars at the ER.

    If you do see her please report back!

  2. #9313

    Sexy red

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ampa/52843018/#.

    Anyone tried this one, a few comments on listcrawler and one brand new very short review. Thanks.

  3. #9312

    Kandy

    Nevermind. I saw her rates on some of her older ads. I will definitely see this one asap.

  4. #9311

    Kandy

    Quote Originally Posted by MongeringMicky  [View Original Post]
    No face photos in her ad but trust me she's GTG. Really attractive face, thick body, cute manicured toes, no signs of candy use (nice teeth and she has all of them) and OMFG what a BBBJ. Her ad says no bravo, but I pre-arranged an o-natural session and she didn't stop until every potential piece of fatherhood I own for the next two weeks was safely in her mouth. You will not find a better BJ. Standard online rates apply.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...ampa/52809121/
    I've had my eyes on this one. Pardon my ignorance but what is the "standard online rate"? What was her donation?

  5. #9310

    Sarah Vandella and other thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tattoo47  [View Original Post]
    Nice work as, IMHO, fall in line with the average monger and not rich white male / pro athlete money. There are more outside factors, but you kind of nailed it. I do remember fucking Sarah Vandella before her career took off in porn (She is from my hometown). Therefore, her rates was not porn star price yet! Lc / Backpage usually don't command a high end price (always exception). I do agree on your 'time' and the piece rate. Nicely done.
    I must congratulate you on fucking Sarah Vandella! Very well done! On another note, I honestly think we should try to organize or something guys. Maybe we could start a kik group or something. The only problem with that would be that many of these girls are not able to consistently pay their phone bills every month. Maybe we set a flat rate or 60-80 per fuck, take it or leave it? Most fucks don't even take an hr. And not too many people make 60+ dollars in an hr. In Germany, in the FKK clubs, the girls get like 50 euros for 30 mins if I remember correctly. I know that there are many girls out there who would love to be able to fuck a few of us a day and make 200+ a day when ever they want, and not have to deal with all the bs that comes with posting on listcrawler. The girls would be comfortable knowing that all the guys in the group are cool, not going to bullshit them and vise versa for us guys. We would only let a girls in the group who are cool and are DTF. I even know a few girls who don't post that might be interested in something like that.

  6. #9309
    Senior Member


    Posts: 7357

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCommando  [View Original Post]
    Price elasticity of demand; pussy is Relatively Elastic Demand.

    Relatively elastic demand means that the quantity demanded of a good or service will be impacted by a price change in that good or service. Typically, a good or service is said to have high price elasticity when many substitutes for that good exists.

    When the price for pussy with one girl goes up, we switch to a girl with a price we like.

    Price elasticity of supply; hooker pussy is relatively inelastic: the quantity available does not change based on price. Generally there is not more pussy available because prices go up. Few of these girls jump into the market thinking they are going to strike it rich. The number of girls selling their pussy doesn't go down much, either, when the prices go down. The girls in the business just don't have the option to leave because the price is low. They just see more guys to make up the difference.

    So what does that all mean? Pay what you are comfortable with and there will always be a girl available at that price. Sometimes it is easier to find one than at other times. You just have to put the work into it, do your research, cost compare, and bargain.
    Could not agree more my friend.

    C5.

  7. #9308

    Sarah Vandella

    Quote Originally Posted by Tattoo47  [View Original Post]
    Nice work as, IMHO, fall in line with the average monger and not rich white male / pro athlete money. There are more outside factors, but you kind of nailed it. I do remember fucking Sarah Vandella before her career took off in porn (She is from my hometown). Therefore, her rates was not porn star price yet! Lc / Backpage usually don't command a high end price (always exception). I do agree on your 'time' and the piece rate. Nicely done.
    Great talent. Cute dimples. Spunky attitude. You're lucky to have hit that! If you have seen any of her interviews now that she's a "porn star", I'm impressed about how cool and down to earth she is, even with the "fame".

    Love her quote: It's not like I always wanted to be a porn star. But I did always want to be a wh0re.

    Amen to that!

  8. #9307

    Simple Economic Theory

    Quote Originally Posted by ChaseStar  [View Original Post]
    Team Commando, I think your last post nailed it perfectly.
    Price elasticity of demand; pussy is Relatively Elastic Demand.

    Relatively elastic demand means that the quantity demanded of a good or service will be impacted by a price change in that good or service. Typically, a good or service is said to have high price elasticity when many substitutes for that good exists.

    When the price for pussy with one girl goes up, we switch to a girl with a price we like.

    Price elasticity of supply; hooker pussy is relatively inelastic: the quantity available does not change based on price. Generally there is not more pussy available because prices go up. Few of these girls jump into the market thinking they are going to strike it rich. The number of girls selling their pussy doesn't go down much, either, when the prices go down. The girls in the business just don't have the option to leave because the price is low. They just see more guys to make up the difference.

    So what does that all mean? Pay what you are comfortable with and there will always be a girl available at that price. Sometimes it is easier to find one than at other times. You just have to put the work into it, do your research, cost compare, and bargain.

  9. #9306
    Team Commando, I think your last post nailed it perfectly.

  10. #9305

    Nice work

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamCommando  [View Original Post]
    Your math is good but the premise is off. Hookers are not hourly wage workers despite advertising based on time. They are more like piece rate workers. In a piece rate scale, a worker gets paid for each article they produce, regardless of the "production" time involved. Productive piece rate workers earn more per day because they produce more product each day. Lazy workers, or unskilled workers earn less per day because they have less product output. So, each of these girls have a basic grasp of how much "product" they need to turn out each day to pay for their room, food, drugs, etc. Most are only motivated to be just productive enough to break even. They are not investing in a 401 K or saving up for a down payment on a house. LOL The cheaper the "piece rate" the higher the necessary volume required for a girl to survive every day. And, there is more time invested in a date than just the actual date. Most of us spend 30 - 60 minutes prior texting, etc. With a girl prior to arrival. I know, I know, they are probably texting and double or triple booking, but they are still investing time in their ultimate product. So, a straight per minute wage calculation is not applicable.

    Having said all that, I do agree that there is a "standard" rate for most of the Grade C and D girls or SWs. My scale is my scale, usually, depending on how good looking the girl is and her skills:

    SW: 20-40, BBBJ; 40-60 FS

    Rates below are for FS. The only exception would be Lea in Brandon with her successful 2 tier business model -.

    Grade D (basically a SW with a room): 40-60 QV; 60-80 HHR (I don't do HR with a Grade D but might stay that long).

    Grade C (non-SW): 60-80 QV; 80-120 HHR; 120-160 HR (I almost never schedule a full hour, although I've often spent multiple hours with girls on a HHR date without complaints or whining about the time; I almost always go around 30 minutes or longer on a QV).

    Higher end is for BBFS and/or Greek (yes, I have gotten BBFS Greek CIA recently for 40 from Grade D and 80 from Grade C).

    I never pay up front but might show the money. If they demand the money up front in their hands, I leave.

    I don't really base my scale on time but on what I expect the experience to be like (vanilla, GFE, PSE, multiple positions, etc.).

    I'm sure each of you have your own scale you apply. But, I think mine falls well within the industry "standards" for our area. It is also true that visitors from areas with higher average scales tend to overpay. I think the girls DO take advantage of these guys. I have never had an issue with my scale and if a girl complains or whines about the rate when setting up a date, I pass. Plenty of fish.
    Nice work as, IMHO, fall in line with the average monger and not rich white male / pro athlete money. There are more outside factors, but you kind of nailed it. I do remember fucking Sarah Vandella before her career took off in porn (She is from my hometown). Therefore, her rates was not porn star price yet! Lc / Backpage usually don't command a high end price (always exception). I do agree on your 'time' and the piece rate. Nicely done.

  11. #9304

    Hourly Wages

    Quote Originally Posted by HobbyMan2013  [View Original Post]
    Agreed. My max ever is 60 roses. Avg 40. If a provider is smart, she'll know that 40-60 for 15-20 minutes tops is still close to 4 PER MINUTE, which most people with MBAs don't make. I only get QVs the first time, until I get to know the girl. If she bitches about it, I move on, since she's probably either trying to scam me or is going to be a problem to deal with. If she's cool about it, If I like, I'll tip + get more time after the fact. I've been known to bring them food and other gifts at times, no exchange required. They're people too.

    I've experienced 90% of the girls here. Even some of the "A's" for close to that, it all has to do with timing of the offer. There's a lot to pick from and they need the roses more than I need their services, esp. With the pandemic, when the candy is low, and at certain times of the month.

    I'm surprised they're not taking 20 for qv / BJ like some of them used to back in the last recession. I also think all the online work (onlyfans, patreon, etc.) is adding to the problem.
    Your math is good but the premise is off. Hookers are not hourly wage workers despite advertising based on time. They are more like piece rate workers. In a piece rate scale, a worker gets paid for each article they produce, regardless of the "production" time involved. Productive piece rate workers earn more per day because they produce more product each day. Lazy workers, or unskilled workers earn less per day because they have less product output. So, each of these girls have a basic grasp of how much "product" they need to turn out each day to pay for their room, food, drugs, etc. Most are only motivated to be just productive enough to break even. They are not investing in a 401 K or saving up for a down payment on a house. LOL The cheaper the "piece rate" the higher the necessary volume required for a girl to survive every day. And, there is more time invested in a date than just the actual date. Most of us spend 30 - 60 minutes prior texting, etc. With a girl prior to arrival. I know, I know, they are probably texting and double or triple booking, but they are still investing time in their ultimate product. So, a straight per minute wage calculation is not applicable.

    Having said all that, I do agree that there is a "standard" rate for most of the Grade C and D girls or SWs. My scale is my scale, usually, depending on how good looking the girl is and her skills:

    SW: 20-40, BBBJ; 40-60 FS

    Rates below are for FS. The only exception would be Lea in Brandon with her successful 2 tier business model -.

    Grade D (basically a SW with a room): 40-60 QV; 60-80 HHR (I don't do HR with a Grade D but might stay that long).

    Grade C (non-SW): 60-80 QV; 80-120 HHR; 120-160 HR (I almost never schedule a full hour, although I've often spent multiple hours with girls on a HHR date without complaints or whining about the time; I almost always go around 30 minutes or longer on a QV).

    Higher end is for BBFS and/or Greek (yes, I have gotten BBFS Greek CIA recently for 40 from Grade D and 80 from Grade C).

    I never pay up front but might show the money. If they demand the money up front in their hands, I leave.

    I don't really base my scale on time but on what I expect the experience to be like (vanilla, GFE, PSE, multiple positions, etc.).

    I'm sure each of you have your own scale you apply. But, I think mine falls well within the industry "standards" for our area. It is also true that visitors from areas with higher average scales tend to overpay. I think the girls DO take advantage of these guys. I have never had an issue with my scale and if a girl complains or whines about the rate when setting up a date, I pass. Plenty of fish.
    Last edited by TeamCommando; 07-26-20 at 14:29. Reason: Added details

  12. #9303

    Tampa Girl

    I've been out of game for a bit but wondering if any info on this girl?

    Thanks for any help.

    https://escortbabylon.net/image_list...222e387569ab8a

  13. #9302

    Adriana.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandald  [View Original Post]
    I just had my second visit with Julia & had a great time. Like most of the Latinas, her pics are fake, but she is stunning with a pretty face & a great body. My only major complaint with her is she can be difficult to get a hold of. I first saw her a month ago. Since then I reached out to her several times & got nothing. When I saw her posting Friday I tried both texting & calling her to no avail. I tried again Saturday & finally got a response an hr later. Once she realized she saw me before it was smooth sailing & I was at her place with little trouble. I did the hr for $$ & enjoyed MSOG, DATY, DATO, CBJ, & CFS. We went through missionary, CG, RCG, & doggy. We even worked ourselves into a 69. Between rounds, she gave me a pretty great massage. I talked to her about having a threesome with her & her roommate, Adriana, next time. That may take some work. I may end up doing another solo session with Adriana & work out the threesome through her since I think she may be more reliable. Regardless if you manage to book her Julia is a fun time.

    Julia.
    Adrianna seems flaky. I did she her once last year, since then, either she got a legit job or doesn't want to see me (I did text to cancel once).

    Julia is just convenient for me to play with her.

  14. #9301

    Interesting

    No GFE but will swallow and let you cum in her pussy. Seems legit.

    Quote Originally Posted by TampaHobby  [View Original Post]
    Was that the case when you saw her?

  15. #9300

    Crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by BillHo  [View Original Post]
    Here is another guy spoiling it for the rest of us. To pay 200 for half an hour is insane! Bill Ho.
    If it's the same one that stays around the casino area she can be had for 60 dollars for a qv guess he can have a rookie mistake since it's his first post but damn bro your killing it for the rest of us guys like I said nothing is going to change until we all band together and stop paying the crazy prices stay safe out there fellas.

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