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**UranIdiot** · 05-04-07 14:41

Originally Posted by Super Tramp

Go for 10 days and 9 nights.

I like to stay in a nice room so $80/night x 9 = $720

Airfare = $450

Most guys I know decide on a budget of $200/day for everything. Yes, total cost per day and I always have money left over. This usually covers 3 girls including MP, TLN girls, hr girls, food and plenty to drink X 10 = $2,000

Total is approx $3,200

Good deal when you consider all the fun, drink, chase, friends and travel for about $100/girl

How much is airfare to Sudan? It's even cheaper there if you can do it with your eyes closed!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4748292.stm

**Super Brko** · 05-04-07 01:37

Chase,

There is no real disagreement here and no hard filings. What I meant by using locals is this; if I want top shelf expensive pussy my local friends recommend couple of agencies. Usually they also give me general rates. Then one of my local friends who speaks local slang will place an order for a girl,ask 4 specific etc. That is one way too weed good from bad web site agencies. Research and knowledge are power and local guys with money and no game got hit with gringo pricing all the time.
"I suppose you believe the women working those 1-900 sex lines are the actual women you see in those ads on late night TV." Your assumption what I believe looked like insult to my intelligence and I am glad you cleared that up.

**Chase Star** · 05-03-07 23:05

Guys guys guys. I don't think we're really disagreeing on that much here. You don't have to sell me at all on international mongering. And yet you keep arguing that same point and seem to ignore what I'm saying of "So what? They're completely different outlets that serve completely different purposes" (ie binging in massive outburst of excessive indilgence vs. resorted to whatever is available to get you through those long stretches in between). Again, THAT is my point. Just reemphasizing isolated costs and coming up with some average hourly rate or "$200/day" doesn't really tell the whole story. If I could just pay $200 for one day in CR, I'd do it in a heart beat. In fact you'd probably see me there every Saturday. The problem is that in order to get down to that $200/day AVERAGE rate you have to go for much more than just one day. So while your average may just be something affordable sounding like $200, you're really talking about blowing $3200 in just the span of 10 days. Again I could still even see doing that too. But not every Saturday or even every month. That type of outlay is more likely a once a year or maybe twice a year type expenditure for most guys (unless they make much more than the average US income or are total horndogs and save every extra penny for such trips). And then what do you do to satisfy those urges between trips. As bad as the local scene is sometimes, you just gotta make do. I'll never pay $250 for a 200 lb whale either, but when deals like Osaka are available I'll take them even if the girls are older and not as good looking as the chicas and the rates 5 times what an MP session runs south of the border. You guys are comparing apples and oranges and just because we all agree that oranges are particularly tasty doesn't mean we never want to take a bite of an apple.

And Brko, I'm not sure what your talking about my having a "condescending" tone that is "totally misplaced". First of all my "1-900 comment" was directed at internet and late night tv purveyors of sex services and not at you. Secondly, by definition any outfit that pulls that shit is "low-end", but far too many of the sex promotions you see on the web are in one way or another con jobs and how can you tell which ones aren't. Just because they charge a high price and have model quality pictures doesn't mean they're high-end or on the up and up. You seem to realize this yourself, since you choose to rely on locals rather than booking through a website like the one you posted.

**Super Tramp** · 05-03-07 20:07

Go for 10 days and 9 nights.

I like to stay in a nice room so $80/night x 9 = $720

Airfare = $450

Most guys I know decide on a budget of $200/day for everything. Yes, total cost per day and I always have money left over. This usually covers 3 girls including MP, TLN girls, hr girls, food and plenty to drink X 10 = $2,000

Total is approx $3,200

Good deal when you consider all the fun, drink, chase, friends and travel for about $100/girl

**Super Brko** · 05-03-07 11:30

OK Chase you said it yourself, mongering abroad is more rewarding then here. For me pussy is commodity, when I order something high priced I usually get it. Simply I do not have problem with bait and switch because I use locals to order girls for me and tell them that if the girl is not the same as on photos she will be sent on her marry way without any compesation. Heck, even if the photos are enhanced by photoshop and the girl is the same but look like Nancy Grace at my door I wouldn't give her for a cab. Low end agencies pull that shit all the time basically they will send you any available girl. So your condescending tone about 1-900 sex line and mail order brides is totally misplaced.

Last summer I went to Germany,Croatia and Montenegro on Adriatic coast using Condor and HLX airlines ;Orlando-Frankfurt-Stuttgart-Dubrovnik rt with total cost 770$. Two months ago, my brother and his wife went to Buenos Aires and paid for air fares 400 $ a piece rt and 200 $ apartment for a month. If you look for a deal and do good research it is easy to find it.

I definitely agree with you about finding local talent, and all those variables that you mention.

My beef with escort scene here is this "First of all there are a lot of gals around here (mediocre at best) who seem to be out completely out of touch with reality (and yet someone must be paying it". Guys are so starved for pussy that paying 200 pound whale 250 hr seems like heaven to them but there is no 15year old Geo Metro's with 20 k price tag. Chase you've been abroad and nobody in their right mind would fuck them let alone pay them.

And uncle LEO

**Chase Star** · 05-03-07 01:20

Brko,
Don't get me wrong. You'll find I am a regular poster on the ISG forum CR section and have mongered in many other countries as well. So you don't have to sell me. I barely partake of the mongering scene at all in the US anymore, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. I just don't think its fair to do a simplistic comparison between mongering at home vs. overseas since in many ways they're apples and oranges. And your comparing the individual non-chica costs with local escort rates is completely meaningless since you're not just buying one air ticket or one hotel room for one night but having to pay for the whole package and the idea is not to substitute an hour with a local provider for an hour sitting on a plane. So lets add up all the costs and see what we're really talking about.

1) When I run a search on despagar for Miami to Cali I get something more like $484 r/t. Maybe you can get some slightly better deals when on sale but I think that is more typical. And you left out the cost of getting to Miami from Tampa. Currently that is $163 r/t on travelocity, again not necessarily the cheapest rate available but close enough to current trends to work with. So far we're up to $650 without stepping foot in the foreign country. It might be a little less for someplace like Costa Rica but considerably more for someplace like Asia or Eastern Europe.

2) Hotels range from $50-$100/night so a 5 night stay runs between $250-500. Split the difference and call it $375. Now we're up to over $1000

3) I'll save the chicas for last and do daily expenses next. $50/day times 5 days is another $250 bringing us up to nearly $1300 before we even start to talk about session costs.

4) Now we get to the whole point of going down there. "Chicas - 18-20 year old more beautiful and passionate then almost anything I have seen here in escort scene"? More beautiful and passionate than anything here, for sure. But all looking like the knockouts in those photos, I don't think so. TLN $70-$120? Really depends on the exact locale. Also depends on your experience, skill and know-how in that locale. A regular visitor may know where to look and have established and proven contacts, but someone just visiting once a year is nearly as likely to get taken by a scammer there as they are here. A newbie could easily spend as much as $70/hr in some of those places or be hard pressed to find a chica for less than $120/nt. But lets accept that $120/nt figure and further assume that while you might be able to pull one all nighter, most guys will probably not go for much more than 2-3 hours per night for 5 nights in a row. Now we have to add another $600 and we're up to $1875.

Now divide that nearly $2 grand by the 12 or so hours that you actually had sex and it comes out to around $150/hr. Of course, you could bring that average down even further by extending your trip and adding more sessions or by squeezing more sessions into those 5 days, but your total outlay would then increase too. At 4 hours of fucking per day over 5 days, you're still looking at $100/hr and while viagra might keep you stiff for that much screwing, I suspect at that rate most of us would run out leche long before the 5 days were up (and be horny again 5 days after they return home). However, these are still certainly better than any rates you can find for a local gal of similar quality and performance (assuming you could find one), just not nearly as cheap as the $70-120TLN that you suggest. Plus you've got to ask yourself, even if you could get those quality girls for $150/hr locally, would you ever go on a 12 hour binge over just a 5 day period blowing $2 grand on hookers if you were at home. Maybe some of us would, but I probably wouldn't even if I could afford to do that week after week.

BTW, one last minor point, photos don't have to be "photoshoped" if the pictures are old or stolen or just employing substitute models that you will never meet. I suppose you believe the women working those 1-900 sex lines are the actual women you see in those ads on late night TV. Or you could ask any of the thousands of eastern european guys who are scamming naive guys over the internet at mail-order bride sites with photos of models that they purport to be available for matrimony. You'll get the RFM before long but you'll never see the girl in the photo.

**Tampa Monger** · 05-02-07 17:28

Originally Posted by Dan Smith 69

So, is this the same "Heaven" we were discussing several months ago?? The "Heaven" of YS fame?? If so, where did you find her? Is she dancing somewhere?

No, that Heaven is a black girl and (by now) much older. This girl is white.

**Malabar** · 05-02-07 14:34

Originally Posted by Jethrow1

Its cheaper in Russia, Dollars will get you a lot more if the Russian airliner your on does not crash. Try the site below.

http://zna.nu/searchgirl_eng.php

Will you look at all the future ex-wives.

**Jethrow1** · 05-02-07 08:11

Its cheaper in Russia, Dollars will get you a lot more if the Russian airliner your on does not crash. Try the site below.

http://zna.nu/searchgirl_eng.php

**Super Brko** · 05-02-07 02:06

Chase you make valid points,but this agency is actually in Switzerland which is most expensive country in Europe for mongering. There, 1hr in brothel runs from 100-500 euros,and no I have not used this agency. If you look closely to photos they haven't been photoshoped.

My point is how vip escort's should look simply because we love beautiful faces and perfect bodies,and pay accordingly. If you've been in the clubs abroad perfect 9 and 10 always got pick up first. Now do they deliver? Just like in real life,beautiful women thinks that you are rewarded just because she is there,but some do. Check the Brazil and Colombia forum on this web site. Now lets us proceed to economics:

1.Air tickets http://www.us.despegar.com/homes/homeusms.html

Miami Cali U$D 239
Miami Lima U$D 319
Miami Montevideo U$D 379

1 hr with escort here more or less.

2. Hotels range from 50 $-100 $ night so 5 night stay is 1-2 hours with escort here.

3.Chicas - 18-20 year old more beautiful and passionate then almost anything I have seen here in escort scene TLN [all night long] 70-120 $.

4.Expenses 50 $ a day or 5 days 1 hr with escort.

**Dan Smith 69** · 05-01-07 23:13

Originally Posted by Tampa Monger

Saw Heaven last week. 813-735-7555. She's 20 years old and cute, but not a hardbody. For $80 I got a nice, slow, wet sloppy blowjob. She's not a cumdodger, but won't swallow. You can definitely unload in her mouth, though. I was sitting on the couch in her hotel room when I got my nut, and she sluttily flicked her tongue across the head of my cock while my load shot out of it, getting my seed all over her tongue. I tipped her $20 for that visual feast. Will repeat.

Very pleasant personality.

I got her permission to post the digits.

So, is this the same "Heaven" we were discussing several months ago?? The "Heaven" of YS fame?? If so, where did you find her? Is she dancing somewhere?

**Chase Star** · 05-01-07 19:18

Actually 750€ Euros is equal to "only" about $1025, but your point is well taken. $500/hr is well over the average rate here in Tampa and should get you, if not "freakin playboy bunnies", then at least as close as any of us need to get. However you left out a few other points.

Add to that $1025/hr the cost of getting to "Brazil,Colombia,Argentina or Europe at lest(sic) once a year." The cost of airfare and hotel will at least double that rate if not much more if all you go for is one 2 hour session. To bring down the average hourly rate back to something that is competitive with the US, one really has to "binge" on that one week trip, getting in as many sessions as possible. And while that might bring down the AVERAGE hourly rate, the total that one would spend on that trip would be humongous. Oh, but what if you just saved all year for that "once a year" trip instead of paying "those outrageous prices for 40 year old hoes"? First of all there are a lot of gals around here (mediocre at best) who seem to be out completely out of touch with reality (and yet someone must be paying it) but if one digs and knows where to look there are some decent ones that aren't completely horrible values and does anyone really think they'd be able to go 11 months without spending any money on local providers?

Another point is the same issue that faces us here at home, when looking at escort agency sites with providers that look almost too good to be true. Maybe they're too good to be true and maybe we will wind up with the bait and switch. Just because they "guarantee it", doesn't always mean anything. I'm not saying there aren't possibly agencies in Eastern Europe, Argentina, Brazil and Colombia with gals that look as good as that for prices like that. But, Super Brko, is this an agency you've actually used yourself and know to deliver as promised or is this just some site you discovered "cruising on the web"?

BTW, you suggest that the girls pictured are hot and relatively inexpensive for what you get because they come from developing regions such as those countries and yet they all have 1st world sounding names. And the site appears to be based in either the UK or Lichtenstein, 2 countries not particularly well known for any special mongering values.

And finally, lets allow that we can budget for all session AND travel costs to a point that it is a reasonably affordable and a good value and allow that what we see is what we get. We shouldn't be suckered just by a pretty face. Just as in the US, how do we know these "hotties" really deliver and don't think they're somehow worth 750€ just for showing up? Or think they can get away with a basic CBJ and uninspired service because they're so hot you should be satisfied with just that? Maybe they just start at 750€ and expect a sizable tip on top of that. In my experience, the providers that usually provide the best QUALITY service are NOT the ones that are absolutely the best looking. In fact, it is usually the super hotties that think they don't have to put out any special effort. I'm not saying one needs to go to the opposite end and go with skanks or use some compromising SW scale, but a solid GFE 7, 8 or even 9 is nearly always a better deal than a non-GFE stuck-up 10

**Fla Monger II** · 05-01-07 16:19

Originally Posted by Super Brko

Cruising through ter and ********* escort adds and seeing those outrageous prices for 40 year old hoes that charge $$$ I think that every single one of us should take trip to Brazil,Colombia,Argentina or Europe at lest once a year. Check this web site
http://www.1st-models.com/models.html

This is vip above and beyond freakin playboy bunnies.

Hot but did you see the prices? 750e for two hours? That's 1500 US. You could get a top of the line porn star in the US for that.

Not saying that you can't find cheap hotness overseas, but that website wasn't a good reference for the point.

**Member #4558** · 05-01-07 13:55

Originally Posted by Super Brko

Cruising through ter and ********* escort adds and seeing those outrageous prices for 40 year old hoes that charge $$$ I think that every single one of us should take trip to Brazil,Colombia,Argentina or Europe at lest once a year. Check this web site
http://www.1st-models.com/models.html

This is vip above and beyond freakin playboy bunnies.

Hotties galore! I'm sold.

When do we leave!