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  1. #2135
    Quote Originally Posted by GG1234  [View Original Post]
    Order out of K-ChaosA solution that comes to mind is to aggregate the public data we have into one place, but that's easier said than done. There's no consistency in how K-girls are advertised, so a lot of web scraping code would have to be written and maintained. A database would also have to be designed and setup to store the scraped data and any post-scrape analysis. Things like the Kgirls Rebrands thread in the LA forum could be 90%+ automated, but it would require a lot of code to be written and maintained.

    With this data collected, you'd be able to have a girl-centric view where you could search for a girl and find out everything we know about her. The bookers would become a secondary detail under such a system. Review data could also be aggregated. We could link to TER. We could even link to posts in this forum. It'd be a lot of work though, and I'm not sure it's worth the effort.
    Yeah, good luck in getting people to do this. It's only "chaos" and a problem if one thinks that everything should be organized, consistent, easy to find, and comprehensive. That's the "system" out there, and customers figure it out and adjust accordingly. People who try to "fix" the kgirl business model and the way they operate is a futile exercise. One just has to learn how to navigate through this with the available information.

  2. #2134
    Quote Originally Posted by GG1234  [View Original Post]
    The current chaos in the K-girl scene comes from the info on K-girls being spread out and duplicated all over the place, and it's the worst in LA due to how many bookers there are per girl. This is a new problem relative to rebranding and fake info which has been a problem for as long as this business has existed. Also, I don't think it's possible to get the bookers to stop advertising independently. It's too entrenched now, and there's no benefit for them to stop. This takes advertising off the table, and any potential solution would have to be review-centric.
    .
    The multiple booker per girl system is quite interesting. The other day, a new booker which I never dealt with said I was already verified and good to go. Which begs the question, who vouched for me and what information was shared? I can't help but be concerned about this as it only takes one bad actor to ruin lives (ie: doxxing clients or LEO obtaining from a sloppy booker).

    But I understand these are the risks. Just can't help but be more mindful.

  3. #2133

    Advertising vs Reviewing

    Quote Originally Posted by TnaStylez  [View Original Post]
    I've seen a successful model where dishonest orgs are blacklisted within their ecosystem; punished by not being allowed to advertise or be reviewed and where as "preferred" orgs are allowed to advertise and their girls be reviewed. Reviews of the girls of preferred businesses will also increase the level of the reviewers similar to HX. A similar model might rein in all the current k-chaos and benefit mongers.
    I thought about this some more, and I think that advertising and reviewing cannot effectively coexist in the same site. The purpose of reviews is to bring truth to advertising, but if you make your money through advertising, something is going to have to give. A recent example of this is PD, where they've long been accused of allowing the deletion of negative (but not necessarily inaccurate) reviews. As if that weren't bad enough, on June 11th, they're making you upgrade your account to VIP to read reviews whereas they are currently free to read as long as you're signed in. See this discussion for details. Click on "View Original Post".

    Quote Originally Posted by Jbjb1983  [View Original Post]
    Looks like PD will start charging 66 a week that will be a min 264 a month to be able to read full reviews! WTF!!
    My conclusion is that you can be an advertising site or a review site but not both. Advertising will dominate if you try.

    Order out of K-Chaos

    The current chaos in the K-girl scene comes from the info on K-girls being spread out and duplicated all over the place, and it's the worst in LA due to how many bookers there are per girl. This is a new problem relative to rebranding and fake info which has been a problem for as long as this business has existed. Also, I don't think it's possible to get the bookers to stop advertising independently. It's too entrenched now, and there's no benefit for them to stop. This takes advertising off the table, and any potential solution would have to be review-centric.

    A solution that comes to mind is to aggregate the public data we have into one place, but that's easier said than done. There's no consistency in how K-girls are advertised, so a lot of web scraping code would have to be written and maintained. A database would also have to be designed and setup to store the scraped data and any post-scrape analysis. Things like the Kgirls Rebrands thread in the LA forum could be 90%+ automated, but it would require a lot of code to be written and maintained.

    With this data collected, you'd be able to have a girl-centric view where you could search for a girl and find out everything we know about her. The bookers would become a secondary detail under such a system. Review data could also be aggregated. We could link to TER. We could even link to posts in this forum. It'd be a lot of work though, and I'm not sure it's worth the effort.

  4. #2132
    Quote Originally Posted by HapaBoy86  [View Original Post]
    Nicoles pics are under PapayaOC currently just click on there pics.
    Thanks, saw her in SAG. I'd put her late 40's 320 hr MSOG. Weak BJ like others have mentioned but nice lady.

  5. #2131
    Quote Originally Posted by LiftHerUp  [View Original Post]
    Responding to each point in this thread since I originally posted on Blue with LAKAngels, first, I'd guess she is not the girl in the picture, but she's similar looking. She looked pretty young to me, definitely not old, but since I'm 70+, nearly all of them look young to me. I did not sense any smoker's breath, so maybe it's an on-and-off thing with her. On reflection, I guess I didn't get any LFK or DFK, but at the time I didn't miss it. But I can still feel her tongue working my pole, FWIW.

    But again, most important, her attitude. For me, sensing that my sex drive is a welcome, enjoyed presence in the room (and in the body) is what I'm there for.

    Lift Her Up.
    Agreed on Beauty in eye. However, she looks like 40+ with my Asian eye. LOL!

  6. #2130
    Quote Originally Posted by GG1234  [View Original Post]
    They are not the same org. LA has settled on a system where one girl may be advertised by multiple bookers. One booker, usually the one who is leasing the apartment, is the main one which all the other bookers have to coordinate with for any given girl. The girls believe that using multiple bookers gives them wider coverage in the total number of men they can reach. As you've noticed, this results in a ton of overlap between bookers. I don't know why this system came into existence in LA but not any other city.


    When you posted this, it made me think back to the days of CV where the current system in LA would be impossible, because that site dictated a girl-centric advertising model where having 3-5 bookers per girl would be absurd. When CV disappeared, that created a huge void that no single site was able to fill. Eventually bookers took advertising into their own hands which led to the creation of many independent sites. Now that control of advertising has settled into the hands of bookers, it'll be very difficult to undo. There aren't any incentives for them to relinquish the power they gained.
    This has become annoying as info for a girl may have like 3 or 4 names you have to search under if a booker has girl lisited in slightliy different name.

  7. #2129

    One girl can have many bookers

    Quote Originally Posted by KalvinHobbs  [View Original Post]
    SAG and CGLA the same org?
    They are not the same org. LA has settled on a system where one girl may be advertised by multiple bookers. One booker, usually the one who is leasing the apartment, is the main one which all the other bookers have to coordinate with for any given girl. The girls believe that using multiple bookers gives them wider coverage in the total number of men they can reach. As you've noticed, this results in a ton of overlap between bookers. I don't know why this system came into existence in LA but not any other city.

    Quote Originally Posted by TnaStylez  [View Original Post]
    There is a need for accurate information in today's k-girl environment full of re-brands so there is definitely a demand and opportunity. I've seen a successful model where dishonest orgs are blacklisted within their ecosystem; punished by not being allowed to advertise or be reviewed and where as "preferred" orgs are allowed to advertise and their girls be reviewed. Reviews of the girls of preferred businesses will also increase the level of the reviewers similar to HX. A similar model might rein in all the current k-chaos and benefit mongers.
    When you posted this, it made me think back to the days of CV where the current system in LA would be impossible, because that site dictated a girl-centric advertising model where having 3-5 bookers per girl would be absurd. When CV disappeared, that created a huge void that no single site was able to fill. Eventually bookers took advertising into their own hands which led to the creation of many independent sites. Now that control of advertising has settled into the hands of bookers, it'll be very difficult to undo. There aren't any incentives for them to relinquish the power they gained.

  8. #2128

  9. #2127

    SAG and CGLA the same org?

    Scrolling through the names and recognize a few from the other site. New to the OC so still trying to see which org to get verified with. Any org / providers recommendations for young providers.

  10. #2126

    Lakg site is back

    https://losangeleskoreangirls.com/

    Up and running again. Wonder why they went down for a bit.

  11. #2125
    Quote Originally Posted by GG1234  [View Original Post]
    https://www.sweetasiangem.com/la-nicole

    If you want to go the HX route, the booker is PaPayaOC, but you won't find Nicole's pics under their albums. However, they're still in PKL and LAVixens' albums.
    Nicoles pics are under PapayaOC currently just click on there pics.

  12. #2124

    Blue, Responding

    Quote Originally Posted by KGFever  [View Original Post]
    Her smoke breath was so bad. LOL!
    Responding to each point in this thread since I originally posted on Blue with LAKAngels, first, I'd guess she is not the girl in the picture, but she's similar looking. She looked pretty young to me, definitely not old, but since I'm 70+, nearly all of them look young to me. I did not sense any smoker's breath, so maybe it's an on-and-off thing with her. On reflection, I guess I didn't get any LFK or DFK, but at the time I didn't miss it. But I can still feel her tongue working my pole, FWIW.

    But again, most important, her attitude. For me, sensing that my sex drive is a welcome, enjoyed presence in the room (and in the body) is what I'm there for.

    Lift Her Up.

  13. #2123
    Quote Originally Posted by KalvinHobbs  [View Original Post]
    Is she the same Zuri from NorCal. I see listed in TER but the review dates do overlap.
    Saw Zuri 2 weeks ago and you HAVE to experience those tits. Also, she has one of the best BBJs in the industry. But yes, a bit thicc.

  14. #2122

    LA Nicole in OC

    Quote Originally Posted by VeryInterest  [View Original Post]
    What agency is Nicole w / in OC? I can't find her name on hx.
    https://www.sweetasiangem.com/la-nicole

    If you want to go the HX route, the booker is PaPayaOC, but you won't find Nicole's pics under their albums. However, they're still in PKL and LAVixens' albums.

  15. #2121
    Quote Originally Posted by HobbyWood  [View Original Post]
    I saw Nicole for the first time right before she left L. A. For O. C. I made an hour trip to see her. Glad she is closer. Will definitely see her again.

    Nicole provided a great experience. Kept telling me to slow down. Not sure if she wanted to extend the first round so there wouldn't be time for a second round. I'm usually done after one release, so it worked out. Even with skipping intro shower (just showered and first visit of the day for her), I was able to extend the fun almost to the end of the hour.

    We did have a nice conversation. She made a comment about other girls charging $$ for same service. Seemed like she didn't like her special rate. I liked it, as I'll be back. I'd probably see her at $$ but she'd be further down my to-do list.
    What agency is Nicole w / in OC? I can't find her name on hx.

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