High Honorarium Hotties

**Kardiac3323** · 05-02-23 14:50

Originally Posted by Goo3215 [View Original Post]

Anyone have any recent experience with Carmen?

I have seen Carmen several times since she first showed up in Cincy. She is an ATF. Sweet girl, hot as hell, interesting to talk to, great incall location, and reasonably priced particularly for multi hour sessions which I like. Her menu starts open and only opens more with each visit.

**Kardiac3323** · 05-02-23 14:43

Originally Posted by TroublePlay [View Original Post]

Anyone seen this one? I can't find any info. High rate for no reviews, but I really like her looks.

https://tryst.link/escort/sasha513

I have seen Sasha twice, both times over a year ago. She is very hot with a great body, and performs well. From my experience she is picky about who she sees, and you need to schedule in advance. We had good chemistry and I would see her again, I just tend to play in other cities these days when I travel.

**TroublePlay** · 05-02-23 11:23

Originally Posted by Long8 [View Original Post]

Inbox is full.

Cleared some room.

**Long8** · 05-02-23 11:16

Originally Posted by Goo3215 [View Original Post]

Thanks for the PM. I tried responding but it says your inbox is full also. LOL.

Inbox is full.

**BamBam** · 05-01-23 16:21

The kind of women Todd Cincy is willing to see are NOT going to negotiate. At his desired quality level, 400 is the minimum and 500 is more the current norm. Of course, there are women who are happy to negotiate. They are street walkers, addicts or homeless. Some are just plain gross and have to discount to get any customers. Let's not kid ourselves, there are guys here who do not care about level of attractiveness. If you want to be successful, you need to judge the provider carefully because the women at the higher end will just block you if they feel you are a cheapskate.

All this argues for establishing some long term relationships when things are going well. Like TP, I have friends I have been seeing since well before covid. I treat them well and see them fairly regularly. (Don't ask; just don't.) The men who are suffering now are either men who are new or men who burned bridges when things were going easy for them. The men who do well in tough times are the men who treat all women well - even the GPS, the biotches, the rinsers and the nutcases. You never know when one of them will turn around and you certainly don't want them trashing your reputation to others.

BAM.

P.S. I know Todd and know he follows the same philosophy as me. I am not trashing him.

**Goo3215** · 05-01-23 16:10

Originally Posted by Goo3215 [View Original Post]

Thanks. I freed up space.

Thanks for the PM. I tried responding but it says your inbox is full also. LOL.

**Goo3215** · 05-01-23 10:09

Originally Posted by TroublePlay [View Original Post]

Your inbox is full.

Thanks. I freed up space.

**LittleDickMan87** · 05-01-23 09:13

Originally Posted by ToddCincy [View Original Post]

I'm sure there are cases of guys becoming "regulars", and getting volume price breaks. But as far as emailing a provider out of the blue, and offering her half of her advertised rate? No. I don't think that has a very high chance of success. Not in this market.

Read the forum, and I think you'll see that some guys are, in fact, paying these rates. There is a Ukrainian who comes through here regularly, and some guys regularly pay her 500 for less than full service. Nicole Shannon is over 40, and there are plenty of guys here willing to pay her advertised rate of 500.

The market is bad now not because of excess demand, but because of poor supply. The pandemic upended the service labor market, and that includes the hobby. Just be glad you aren't trying to staff a Chipotle restaurant or a car wash.

100 percent agree. Same here in Louisville but you have more variety. Some of the selections are pretty low. A few girls who are trustworthy and decent bodies are charging 400 per hh which is a little out of the question. Some on Tryst coming in for Derby are seeking $1200-$2000 for an hour. It would have to be pretty GD good for that. That's like a regular six month budget for this.

I agree if you could find FS at an AMP that gives you a release and a good looking girl for $200-$300, then go for it. I've found what I hope is a good provider that's $400 for an hour and hope it works out to be a regular.

Some of the "list" sites have girls that look at or just above drug ***** level and any money spent on that has to be done in desperation.

It is interesting, though, how the economy effects all life -- even this.

**TroublePlay** · 05-01-23 09:12

Originally Posted by Goo3215 [View Original Post]

Anyone have any recent experience with Carmen?

Your inbox is full.

**TroublePlay** · 05-01-23 08:58

I have different needs at different times. Sometimes money is tight and I still got to get a release. I have fbsm go to providers for 200. Next I have three providers for FS in the 250-300 range. They are all spectacular and passionate lovers, attractive, but not model material. Finally, I occasionally will spring for the 400-700 hhh for passion and looks and skills. They really have to ring some bells to get me back a second, third or fourth time at that rate.

Negotiation seldom occurs at this latter hhh level. They know what they have and there will be someone who pays it. I find you have to break into the friend zone in order to get the rare break. I have had top providers offer me an extra half hour to motivate me to move my appointment day. I have had providers who do not watch the clock when our chemistry is fantastic.

But other than an occasional p411 discount for all members, I have rarely had ANY provider negotiate up front. Granted, I am not seeing any FS providers under the 250 threshold and I am certain that's where most negotiations occur.

I hope Todd is correct and the market comes down some day, but I am not getting any younger. So today, I play.

PS I am not answering pms on who all of my go to providers are. Two of my 250-300 providers are utrs, everyone else I have written about on here and other sites.

TP.

Originally Posted by ToddCincy [View Original Post]

I'm sure there are cases of guys becoming "regulars", and getting volume price breaks. But as far as emailing a provider out of the blue, and offering her half of her advertised rate? No. I don't think that has a very high chance of success. Not in this market.

Read the forum, and I think you'll see that some guys are, in fact, paying these rates. There is a Ukrainian who comes through here regularly, and some guys regularly pay her 500 for less than full service. Nicole Shannon is over 40, and there are plenty of guys here willing to pay her advertised rate of 500.

The market is bad now not because of excess demand, but because of poor supply. The pandemic upended the service labor market, and that includes the hobby. Just be glad you aren't trying to staff a Chipotle restaurant or a car wash.

The situation will improve when the labor market cools. Historically (I've dabbled in the hobby since the 1990's), I've found that an unemployment rate above 5 percent is what brings enough new women into the hobby to make a significant difference on the supply side.

But for now, we've got what we've got.

I have discriminating tastes. I'm not interested in providers who are overweight, rough, or older than about 35. So for me to get what I want in this market, 500 is the low end.

Some hobbyists, like myself and DNut (a longtime poster here), have simply decided to sit out this bad market. But that is a decision that only you can make.

As for the relatively few providers in the current market, they can afford to sit back and wait. If a provider charges 500 and she gets four appointments per week, that's a low six-figure income. Do the math. There are enough guys for whom getting laid is *so* important that they'll pay almost anything.

**Todd Cincy** · 05-01-23 06:01

Originally Posted by JjSlim [View Original Post]

Are guys really paying these girls 500 to 700 an hour? Or is it like a car dealer advertising the sticker price and you negotiate down?

I'm sure there are cases of guys becoming "regulars", and getting volume price breaks. But as far as emailing a provider out of the blue, and offering her half of her advertised rate? No. I don't think that has a very high chance of success. Not in this market.

Read the forum, and I think you'll see that some guys are, in fact, paying these rates. There is a Ukrainian who comes through here regularly, and some guys regularly pay her 500 for less than full service. Nicole Shannon is over 40, and there are plenty of guys here willing to pay her advertised rate of 500.

The market is bad now not because of excess demand, but because of poor supply. The pandemic upended the service labor market, and that includes the hobby. Just be glad you aren't trying to staff a Chipotle restaurant or a car wash.

The situation will improve when the labor market cools. Historically (I've dabbled in the hobby since the 1990's), I've found that an unemployment rate above 5 percent is what brings enough new women into the hobby to make a significant difference on the supply side.

But for now, we've got what we've got.

I have discriminating tastes. I'm not interested in providers who are overweight, rough, or older than about 35. So for me to get what I want in this market, 500 is the low end.

Some hobbyists, like myself and DNut (a longtime poster here), have simply decided to sit out this bad market. But that is a decision that only you can make.

As for the relatively few providers in the current market, they can afford to sit back and wait. If a provider charges 500 and she gets four appointments per week, that's a low six-figure income. Do the math. There are enough guys for whom getting laid is *so* important that they'll pay almost anything.

**JjSlim** · 04-30-23 15:42

Are guys really paying these girls 500 to 700 an hour? Or is it like a car dealer advertising the sticker price and you negotiate down?

**DaytonNew** · 04-26-23 21:39

Can someone share some experience with DD? Brooke? Mia? Body, bad habits? Safe place?

Thanks.

Stay safe.

**Goo3215** · 04-24-23 16:10

Originally Posted by TroublePlay [View Original Post]

Todd,

One review on TER. Possibly posted an hour ago. 9 looks. 9 performance.

One review is generally not enough to take it to the bank, but better than nothing.

Tell her to get rid of the $25 deposit she is asking for and her business will likely move to Raylee proportions at that price point of $300. Let us know how it goes.

No red flag - but she seems brand new and new to Cincy. She has a tryst ad, a Twitter page, an Instagram page, and a very nice personal website. Out of the gates with a significant presence. No Eros ad or p411 presence. She is fairly well organized with being new to the market. She has guidance or is very smart or has done this elsewhere under another moniker. Any insight?

TP.

Anyone have any recent experience with Carmen?

**BlueJacks60** · 04-17-23 15:02

Saw Virginia during her current visit to Cincinnati. Setup was easy / painless with P411. Great communication, attitude, and body. Very sensual and accommodating. Will definitely try to repeat if / when she returns to Cincinnati.

https://tryst.link/escort/virginia_vixen