High Honorarium Hotties

[TroublePlay]

As you know, Todd, I don't mind a hot MILF. A few extra pounds are okay, because of the skill and passion that often come with age and experience.

However, based on your report, Brooke lost me at "no kissing" and "no BBBJ. ".

I mean what's the point?

Thanks for your honest, transparent report, friend.

I am a little bit overdue with this review for Brooke of Discreet Desires. But here goes. This review refers to my appointment of about a month ago.

As some background, I saw Brooke for the first time back in 2008. At that time, she was in her mid-20's, and absolutely smoking.

But, lo and behold, 15 years make a big difference. Brooke is now about 40 years old. There have been some significant changes. You should know about these before you set up an appointment. She does have photos on the DD website (link below), but these are at least seven or eight years old.

https://www.yourdiscreetdesires.com/companions

On the plus side, Brooke has a great (general) attitude. She is super friendly, in a general sense. For a woman who has been in the male entertainment business for so long, she has no bitterness. There is nothing "hard" about her.

She is funny, and would probably be enjoyable to hang around with in real life. At my age (55), she is the kind of girl I would like to meet for a girlfriend, were I in the market for one.

But as a paid companion, she leaves something to be desired. Like I said, she's now 40 years old. She isn't obese, but she definitely has a typical forty-something body, minus strict dieting and gym sessions. She is carrying some extra weight. Like most 40 year olds, of either sex.

Also, as has been noted before, she isn't a GFE. This means that, despite her (general) friendliness, there is still no kissing. You will endure an initial examination of your johnson, to make sure there are no cuts or lesions. She will check your equipment at various times during the act, to ensure that the protection is still securely in place. And yes, the only BJ is a CBJ.

That might be tolerable with a young super-hottie. With a woman in her 40's, well, let's just say that it's a subpar experience.

I suppose my final verdict would be the old familiar, "I had an OK time, but I wouldn't repeat. ".

Before making your decision, though, you should remember that I am generally not a fan of MILFs, especially as paid companions. And Brooke has definitely entered MILF territory. (She really needs updated photos on the website.).

[Todd Cincy]

I am a little bit overdue with this review for Brooke of Discreet Desires. But here goes. This review refers to my appointment of about a month ago.

As some background, I saw Brooke for the first time back in 2008. At that time, she was in her mid-20's, and absolutely smoking.

But, lo and behold, 15 years make a big difference. Brooke is now about 40 years old. There have been some significant changes. You should know about these before you set up an appointment. She does have photos on the DD website (link below), but these are at least seven or eight years old.

https://www.yourdiscreetdesires.com/companions

On the plus side, Brooke has a great (general) attitude. She is super friendly, in a general sense. For a woman who has been in the male entertainment business for so long, she has no bitterness. There is nothing "hard" about her.

She is funny, and would probably be enjoyable to hang around with in real life. At my age (55), she is the kind of girl I would like to meet for a girlfriend, were I in the market for one.

But as a paid companion, she leaves something to be desired. Like I said, she's now 40 years old. She isn't obese, but she definitely has a typical forty-something body, minus strict dieting and gym sessions. She is carrying some extra weight. Like most 40 year olds, of either sex.

Also, as has been noted before, she isn't a GFE. This means that, despite her (general) friendliness, there is still no kissing. You will endure an initial examination of your johnson, to make sure there are no cuts or lesions. She will check your equipment at various times during the act, to ensure that the protection is still securely in place. And yes, the only BJ is a CBJ.

That might be tolerable with a young super-hottie. With a woman in her 40's, well, let's just say that it's a subpar experience.

I suppose my final verdict would be the old familiar, "I had an OK time, but I wouldn't repeat. ".

Before making your decision, though, you should remember that I am generally not a fan of MILFs, especially as paid companions. And Brooke has definitely entered MILF territory. (She really needs updated photos on the website.).

[TroublePlay]

Thanks for the PM. I tried responding but it says your inbox is full also. LOL.

The size of my inbox bears no relationship to the size of my member.

Lame attempt at joke.

Anyway, I have cleared some room, friend.

[Kardiac3323]

Anyone have any recent experience with Carmen?

I have seen Carmen several times since she first showed up in Cincy. She is an ATF. Sweet girl, hot as hell, interesting to talk to, great incall location, and reasonably priced particularly for multi hour sessions which I like. Her menu starts open and only opens more with each visit.

[Kardiac3323]

Anyone seen this one? I can't find any info. High rate for no reviews, but I really like her looks.

https://tryst.link/escort/sasha513

I have seen Sasha twice, both times over a year ago. She is very hot with a great body, and performs well. From my experience she is picky about who she sees, and you need to schedule in advance. We had good chemistry and I would see her again, I just tend to play in other cities these days when I travel.

[TroublePlay]

Inbox is full.

Cleared some room.

[Long8]

Thanks for the PM. I tried responding but it says your inbox is full also. LOL.

Inbox is full.

[BamBam]

The kind of women Todd Cincy is willing to see are NOT going to negotiate. At his desired quality level, 400 is the minimum and 500 is more the current norm. Of course, there are women who are happy to negotiate. They are street walkers, addicts or homeless. Some are just plain gross and have to discount to get any customers. Let's not kid ourselves, there are guys here who do not care about level of attractiveness. If you want to be successful, you need to judge the provider carefully because the women at the higher end will just block you if they feel you are a cheapskate.

All this argues for establishing some long term relationships when things are going well. Like TP, I have friends I have been seeing since well before covid. I treat them well and see them fairly regularly. (Don't ask; just don't.) The men who are suffering now are either men who are new or men who burned bridges when things were going easy for them. The men who do well in tough times are the men who treat all women well - even the GPS, the biotches, the rinsers and the nutcases. You never know when one of them will turn around and you certainly don't want them trashing your reputation to others.

BAM.

P.S. I know Todd and know he follows the same philosophy as me. I am not trashing him.

[Goo3215]

Thanks. I freed up space.

Thanks for the PM. I tried responding but it says your inbox is full also. LOL.

[Goo3215]

Your inbox is full.

Thanks. I freed up space.

[LittleDickMan87]

I'm sure there are cases of guys becoming "regulars", and getting volume price breaks. But as far as emailing a provider out of the blue, and offering her half of her advertised rate? No. I don't think that has a very high chance of success. Not in this market.

Read the forum, and I think you'll see that some guys are, in fact, paying these rates. There is a Ukrainian who comes through here regularly, and some guys regularly pay her 500 for less than full service. Nicole Shannon is over 40, and there are plenty of guys here willing to pay her advertised rate of 500.

The market is bad now not because of excess demand, but because of poor supply. The pandemic upended the service labor market, and that includes the hobby. Just be glad you aren't trying to staff a Chipotle restaurant or a car wash.

100 percent agree. Same here in Louisville but you have more variety. Some of the selections are pretty low. A few girls who are trustworthy and decent bodies are charging 400 per hh which is a little out of the question. Some on Tryst coming in for Derby are seeking $1200-$2000 for an hour. It would have to be pretty GD good for that. That's like a regular six month budget for this.

I agree if you could find FS at an AMP that gives you a release and a good looking girl for $200-$300, then go for it. I've found what I hope is a good provider that's $400 for an hour and hope it works out to be a regular.

Some of the "list" sites have girls that look at or just above drug ***** level and any money spent on that has to be done in desperation.

It is interesting, though, how the economy effects all life -- even this.

[TroublePlay]

Anyone have any recent experience with Carmen?

Your inbox is full.

[TroublePlay]

I have different needs at different times. Sometimes money is tight and I still got to get a release. I have fbsm go to providers for 200. Next I have three providers for FS in the 250-300 range. They are all spectacular and passionate lovers, attractive, but not model material. Finally, I occasionally will spring for the 400-700 hhh for passion and looks and skills. They really have to ring some bells to get me back a second, third or fourth time at that rate.

Negotiation seldom occurs at this latter hhh level. They know what they have and there will be someone who pays it. I find you have to break into the friend zone in order to get the rare break. I have had top providers offer me an extra half hour to motivate me to move my appointment day. I have had providers who do not watch the clock when our chemistry is fantastic.

But other than an occasional p411 discount for all members, I have rarely had ANY provider negotiate up front. Granted, I am not seeing any FS providers under the 250 threshold and I am certain that's where most negotiations occur.

I hope Todd is correct and the market comes down some day, but I am not getting any younger. So today, I play.

PS I am not answering pms on who all of my go to providers are. Two of my 250-300 providers are utrs, everyone else I have written about on here and other sites.

TP.

I'm sure there are cases of guys becoming "regulars", and getting volume price breaks. But as far as emailing a provider out of the blue, and offering her half of her advertised rate? No. I don't think that has a very high chance of success. Not in this market.

Read the forum, and I think you'll see that some guys are, in fact, paying these rates. There is a Ukrainian who comes through here regularly, and some guys regularly pay her 500 for less than full service. Nicole Shannon is over 40, and there are plenty of guys here willing to pay her advertised rate of 500.

The market is bad now not because of excess demand, but because of poor supply. The pandemic upended the service labor market, and that includes the hobby. Just be glad you aren't trying to staff a Chipotle restaurant or a car wash.

The situation will improve when the labor market cools. Historically (I've dabbled in the hobby since the 1990's), I've found that an unemployment rate above 5 percent is what brings enough new women into the hobby to make a significant difference on the supply side.

But for now, we've got what we've got.

I have discriminating tastes. I'm not interested in providers who are overweight, rough, or older than about 35. So for me to get what I want in this market, 500 is the low end.

Some hobbyists, like myself and DNut (a longtime poster here), have simply decided to sit out this bad market. But that is a decision that only you can make.

As for the relatively few providers in the current market, they can afford to sit back and wait. If a provider charges 500 and she gets four appointments per week, that's a low six-figure income. Do the math. There are enough guys for whom getting laid is *so* important that they'll pay almost anything.

[Todd Cincy]

Are guys really paying these girls 500 to 700 an hour? Or is it like a car dealer advertising the sticker price and you negotiate down?

I'm sure there are cases of guys becoming "regulars", and getting volume price breaks. But as far as emailing a provider out of the blue, and offering her half of her advertised rate? No. I don't think that has a very high chance of success. Not in this market.

Read the forum, and I think you'll see that some guys are, in fact, paying these rates. There is a Ukrainian who comes through here regularly, and some guys regularly pay her 500 for less than full service. Nicole Shannon is over 40, and there are plenty of guys here willing to pay her advertised rate of 500.

The market is bad now not because of excess demand, but because of poor supply. The pandemic upended the service labor market, and that includes the hobby. Just be glad you aren't trying to staff a Chipotle restaurant or a car wash.

The situation will improve when the labor market cools. Historically (I've dabbled in the hobby since the 1990's), I've found that an unemployment rate above 5 percent is what brings enough new women into the hobby to make a significant difference on the supply side.

But for now, we've got what we've got.

I have discriminating tastes. I'm not interested in providers who are overweight, rough, or older than about 35. So for me to get what I want in this market, 500 is the low end.

Some hobbyists, like myself and DNut (a longtime poster here), have simply decided to sit out this bad market. But that is a decision that only you can make.

As for the relatively few providers in the current market, they can afford to sit back and wait. If a provider charges 500 and she gets four appointments per week, that's a low six-figure income. Do the math. There are enough guys for whom getting laid is *so* important that they'll pay almost anything.

[JjSlim]

Are guys really paying these girls 500 to 700 an hour? Or is it like a car dealer advertising the sticker price and you negotiate down?