Skin Barrier Creams

[Kcdark]

I wonder about HSV transmission A LOT considering the amount of hobbyiest who seek out BBFS. Most STD's and STI's are treatable but HSV2 seems like an inconvenience since it stays with you for life. There are a few providers who offer this service and it makes cautious since HSV2 is the one that has the most stigma attached when dating outside of the hobby.

[Johnny Shakes]

[Deleted by Admin]

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

[GallopingGhost]

I would use spray on bandaid and spray everything around the shaft that was not covered with the condom.

How would this compare w Gloves in a Bottle?

[NC Transplant]

Interesting. If you put this on your dick and you get a BBBJ, can it be tasted?

For me the barrier cream is for the uncovered parts. The Gloves in a Bottle brand doesn't have any oils in the formula, so can safely overlap with latex condoms. This allows usage under the condom, in case it breaks or slips. The 3 M brand has coconut oil and mineral oil. It might be a better choice for BB since it is more durable. Coconut oil is somewhat antimicrobial as well as repelling fluids. However, no barrier cream protects the opening to the urethra. If you want to BB but increase your safety, you could try a combination of Jiftip to cover the urethra plus barrier cream to cover everything else.

[SantaaClaus]

I would use spray on bandaid and spray everything around the shaft that was not covered with the condom.

[John Dough]

https://smartsexresource.com/topics/lubricants

"Lube helps condoms move easily on skin, making sex safer and more pleasurable. When there is dryness, there is more chance that tender anal or vaginal / internal genital skin will tear, or a condom will break. Not only is it painful to have small tears, it is also easier to get or pass an STI if the skin is broken. For some people, coconut oil is a convenient choice for lube because they are familiar with it and have it available at home. Coconut oil has proven antibacterial properties. Oil-based lubes damage latex condoms".

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324873.php

"Coconut oil is a popular natural option for relieving vaginal dryness. Some studies suggest that coconut oil is safe to use on the skin, and it is an effective moisturizer. Some studies suggest that coconut oil is safe to use on the skin and can help relieve dryness. The researchers also found that coconut oil: coated the skin to reduce water loss, helped strengthen the skin barrier, had emollient properties, meaning that it may help soothe and hydrate the skin. Some studies also suggest that coconut oil has antibacterial properties, which may help protect against infections. For example, a 2013 study found that medium-chain fatty acids from virgin coconut oil can inhibit the growth of Clostridium difficile, which is a type of bacteria that can cause a serious form of diarrhea".

[John Dough]

https://ecohydra.com/consumer/faqs/barrier-cream-faq

"A barrier cream with antibacterial is a cream that is rubbed onto the skin and forms a physical barrier between the skin and contaminants which may irritate, infect, or damage the skin. EcoHydra's Barrier Cream with Antibacterial has both a physical barrier and an active antimicrobial barrier to known germs. It contains the active ingredient Benzalkonium chloride (BAC). This ingredient has inherent antimicrobial properties and has a well-established safety record for example, it has been approved by the FDA for use as an active ingredient in the mouth. The barrier cream is effective against a wide range of common bacteria and yeast, killing up to 99.999% of disease-causing pathogens within 15-30 seconds and has residual germ-killing properties that have been shown to remain active and effective against microorganisms long after application".

http://saniguard.com/pdfs/BarrierCream.pdf

"Our formula works both mechanically and chemically to prevent the intrusion and spread of most harmful substances. The protective film contains minuscule "breathing holes"smaller than the smallest HIV virus, but large enough to allow the skin to breath and perspire normally. Yet, most pathogens and caustic chemicals simply cannot penetrate. Just as important, the Barrier Skin Cream's defensive shield inhibits the further spread of infection. Fortified With the Exclusive SaniGuard Complex. Tested in Approved Labs. 99.99% Effective in Bacteria, Virus, and Fungal Tests".

[John Dough]

For me the barrier cream is for the uncovered parts. The Gloves in a Bottle brand doesn't have any oils in the formula, so can safely overlap with latex condoms. This allows usage under the condom, in case it breaks or slips. The 3 M brand has coconut oil and mineral oil. It might be a better choice for BB since it is more durable. Coconut oil is somewhat antimicrobial as well as repelling fluids. However, no barrier cream protects the opening to the urethra. If you want to BB but increase your safety, you could try a combination of Jiftip to cover the urethra plus barrier cream to cover everything else.

[Kwagmire]

I like the Gloves in a Bottle brand. It is odorless and non-greasy. The only thing noticeable is it makes the skin slightly shiny, due to the dimethicone content. Silicone lube does that too, even after you wipe off the excess.

The 3 M brand is greasy and sticky. It would work well in a hospital setting but not for our purpose.

This is interesting, John, and the study you linked earlier is too.

How are you using this product? Are you relying on it to be able to BB girls, putting it on your entire junk before sex, or just using it on the parts that aren't covered by a condom?

Kwag.

[John Dough]

I like the Gloves in a Bottle brand. It is odorless and non-greasy. The only thing noticeable is it makes the skin slightly shiny, due to the dimethicone content. Silicone lube does that too, even after you wipe off the excess.

The 3 M brand is greasy and sticky. It would work well in a hospital setting but not for our purpose.

[John Dough]

The most popular brand of antiseptic skin cleanser containing chlorhexidine gluconate is Hibiclens.

http://hibiclens.com/clinical/product-info/

"HIBICLENS contains 4% w / v chlorhexidine gluconate. HIBICLENS gently and effectively cleanses skin and superficial wounds. Gentle enough for patients with sensitive skin, HIBICLENS can be used daily. Easily incorporated into a patient's cleansing routine and leaves a layer of CHG protection without sticky residue. Can continue killing pathogens for up to 24 hours and repeated use results in a cumulative effect. Daily bathing of ICU patients with 4% chlorhexidine gluconate has significantly reduced the infection rates of MRSA, VRE, and bacteremias".

Use before 3 M Cavilon Durable Barrier Cream.

[Murphy69]

John, I found your info to be very interesting and wanted to thank you for posting this. It does seem at first glance that it possibly could protect from some things I myself worry about even in the everyday world of fun let alone the hobby itself.

[John Dough]

Dimethicone is a common ingredient in silicone sex lube. Spreading it over large areas of skin may be protective. However, higher amounts of dimethicone don't necessarily make a better skin barrier cream.

3 M makes a highly rated brand of skin barrier cream. Cavilon Durable Barrier Cream outperformed other brands with higher concentrations of dimethicone in a test of simulated normal skin washings.

https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/...creams-pdf.pdf

Quoting from the 3 M website:

"Moisturizes as it protects skin against incontinence-associated dermatitis. Resists wash-off and requires fewer applications than typical moisture barriers. Vanishes into skin, allowing tapes and dressings to adhere. Compatible with chlorhexidine gluconate (CHG)".

CHG is a disinfectant and antiseptic that is used for skin disinfection before surgery and to sterilize surgical instruments.

[John Dough]

Gloves In A Bottle is a popular brand of skin barrier cream. Quoting from their website:

"Gloves In A Bottle bonds with dead skin cells to create what can only be termed an invisible pair of gloves. This new outer layer helps prevent the loss of natural oil and moisture, supports skin elasticity, and improves the overall ability of the epidermis to protect the inner skin cell layers. The skin breathes and perspires naturally. Because it literally becomes part of the outer layer of skin, it does not wash off like other lotions, but comes off naturally as your skin exfoliates. For continued protection, simply reapply in 4 -12 hours".

[John Dough]

"Several Common STDs Can Spread by Rubbing Skin on Skin".

https://www.verywellhealth.com/sexua...ontact-3133056

"The STIs where skin to skin contact poses the biggest risk for transmission include: Genital and oral herpes, HPV varieties that cause genital warts, syphilis, molluscum contagiosum. STIs that are transmitted by skin-to-skin contact may be difficult to fully prevent by safer sex because barriers do not necessarily cover all potentially infectious skin".

Several brands of skin barrier creams use dimethicone as the active ingredient. It bonds to the outermost dead layer of skin cells to resist body fluids and chemical irritants. It is commonly used to protect patients with incontinence from urine induced skin damage.

"Dimethicone barrier cream prevents infection of human skin by schistosome cercariae: evidence from Franz cell studies".

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12054019

"One approach to the prevention of schistosomiasis is the use of topical formulations to inhibit cercarial penetration of skin. The results show that a single application of a barrier cream based on dimethicone offers a high level of protection against penetration that is sustained for at least 48 hr".

Perhaps this protection could apply to other infectious agents.