TNA OR Reviews

[RedBed]

I am under the impression they're building from scratch. But you make it sound like they're rebuilding the site and will automatically add existing profiles as new accounts on the new site.

My issue with that is deleting your account entirely requires some REALLY stupid steps like having a provider acknowledge your review and blah-blah-blah. I hope it's an opt-in process for the "new" TNA.

The way I understood it is they have a clean database that they are building off of. Per their twitter updates they said you will log in and they'll prompt you to change your password and everything else will be as it was before. I've heard there were potentially a couple weeks of data loss. If whoever hacked them has passwords, I see loads of potential issues with that so who knows. I just want to get into my account so I can delete it.

[Valinor]

So are these sites you recommend to have an account on?

You van make an account on any of these; just be sure to not diaclose any personal info.

This can be done with an email account that requires no personal info (proton. Me for example) and a vpn. The vpn is there to prevent your IP from leaking. More security can be obtained with tor and strict settings which turn js off. But even that isn't foolproof. You can move to long range wifi antennas with a dedicated laptob running tails or whonix, piggybacking off of nearby business open wifi. Just be sure not to do it from a vechile with a transceiver or while having your cellphone anywhere nearby. Stay off cameras.

There is always an attack vector. Your mitigation should depend on threat level. From tna ransomtheives, probably fine with an email that doesn't tie back to you only. LEO: you may want to up your game.

Even if you delete your account, your messages and all activity is likely logged in the databases the hackers took over. Often deleting a post, account, message, etc. Only flips the value of that record from isDeleted=0 to isDeleted=1 in the database, so the site knows whether to exclude it from the front end. Such a design is called a logical delete opposed to a physical delete.

[Mizunate]

As soon as tna is back up I'm logging in a closing my shit. Adios to the shit show that is tna, this breach was the final straw for me. +1 for having built up regulars and other boards (this one, private d, tryst). Saving grace for tna was that it couldn't be beat for ensuring you're actually seeing a legit provider. Scams were few and far between (not including new providers with no presence).

For anyone that has twitter, check out the latest tna board (one word) hashtags. Some interesting reading by one user TAT_dena. She reports that tna has been under investigation since 2014. Lots of opportunities for down the rabbit hole type reading but as for me, I'm out.

I am under the impression they're building from scratch. But you make it sound like they're rebuilding the site and will automatically add existing profiles as new accounts on the new site.

My issue with that is deleting your account entirely requires some REALLY stupid steps like having a provider acknowledge your review and blah-blah-blah. I hope it's an opt-in process for the "new" TNA.

[RedBed]

That said I think I'm done with Tna no matter how it re emerges. I've got my regulars and some of these other sites (like this one) provide good leads.

As soon as tna is back up I'm logging in a closing my shit. Adios to the shit show that is tna, this breach was the final straw for me. +1 for having built up regulars and other boards (this one, private d, tryst). Saving grace for tna was that it couldn't be beat for ensuring you're actually seeing a legit provider. Scams were few and far between (not including new providers with no presence).

For anyone that has twitter, check out the latest tna board (one word) hashtags. Some interesting reading by one user TAT_dena. She reports that tna has been under investigation since 2014. Lots of opportunities for down the rabbit hole type reading but as for me, I'm out.

[BloodRage]

I work in software development. TNA was using code written at least a decade ago, if not longer. In the tech world, that is ancient. It was just waiting to blow up on them.

Not to disparage this site either, but we are also currently conversing in a site based on vBulletin version 4. 1. 4 that was released Thursday, 11th 2011. All these PHP sites that center around a single SQL database are pretty old monolithic structures.

If the TNA owners really want to build a robust site, they are going to need more than a week. I am guessing they will grab yet another PHP / JQuery / MySQL stack and push out another piece of crap. If you happen to be a PHP developer and are reading this. Yeah, PHP is crap now LOL. It is time to move on.

Looking at some of the new sites:

PriviateD is using some server side rendering with VueJS for the front end. It is also hosted on Amazon, looks like East Coast servers (maybe in Montreal? I thought all these sites were overseas? Well, AWS is a solid choice and PD is super performant. Maybe not the best layout, but they have a solid tech stack. Don't use your personal email addresses! It does use AWS Cognito for authentication, which isn't going to be hacked anytime soon (if ever).

Tryst is also running VueJS with their data server-sider rendering from a Ruby on Rails server. Rails is a step better than PHP and it is what powered Twitter for a while. It's not a bad choice for this use. These servers also seem to come out of Montreal using a web hosting domain service (mydomain). I would trust Tryst a bit less than PD. While Rails isn't bad, they could be using some old libs with security holes. But, more importantly, they are clearly running their own authentication servers which means trusting them to "do it right. " That said, someone there is smart as they do offer 2-factor auth leading to (probably) a focus on proper security.

There aren't many real-world uses for blockchain and distributed databases, as much as your crypto friends will argue. But a solid provider review board sure could be one of them.

So are these sites you recommend to have an account on?

[RobeMaps]

Since TNA is down, does anyone happen to have Sevyn77's phone number?

[Mizunate]

I work in software development. TNA was using code written at least a decade ago, if not longer. In the tech world, that is ancient. It was just waiting to blow up on them.

Not to disparage this site either, but we are also currently conversing in a site based on vBulletin version 4. 1. 4 that was released Thursday, 11th 2011. All these PHP sites that center around a single SQL database are pretty old monolithic structures.

If the TNA owners really want to build a robust site, they are going to need more than a week. I am guessing they will grab yet another PHP / JQuery / MySQL stack and push out another piece of crap. If you happen to be a PHP developer and are reading this. Yeah, PHP is crap now LOL. It is time to move on.

Looking at some of the new sites:

PriviateD is using some server side rendering with VueJS for the front end. It is also hosted on Amazon, looks like East Coast servers (maybe in Montreal? I thought all these sites were overseas? Well, AWS is a solid choice and PD is super performant. Maybe not the best layout, but they have a solid tech stack. Don't use your personal email addresses! It does use AWS Cognito for authentication, which isn't going to be hacked anytime soon (if ever).

Tryst is also running VueJS with their data server-sider rendering from a Ruby on Rails server. Rails is a step better than PHP and it is what powered Twitter for a while. It's not a bad choice for this use. These servers also seem to come out of Montreal using a web hosting domain service (mydomain). I would trust Tryst a bit less than PD. While Rails isn't bad, they could be using some old libs with security holes. But, more importantly, they are clearly running their own authentication servers which means trusting them to "do it right. " That said, someone there is smart as they do offer 2-factor auth leading to (probably) a focus on proper security.

There aren't many real-world uses for blockchain and distributed databases, as much as your crypto friends will argue. But a solid provider review board sure could be one of them.

PHP will be the death of us all.

[Jumbotron]

What I'm seeing is that Tryst and PrivateDelights are areas where the TNA members have moved to. All those other sites you listed have some "real" activity. But you are 100% correct in that they are 99% scams. When TNA had more honest reviews back in the day, it was far more helpful. If you want honest discussion, you come here. I know it won't happen, but if TNA actually put in a more advanced review system. That would help things so much. Split the ratings up so it isn't a single 5 star choice. With choices that help. "Location" is ok, but how about "Location Safety", "Location Cleanliness". Or "Services matched Expectations." Most of all, stop deleting any honest review that isn't positive or vague.

TNA oughta go back to the template review way they had a decade ago. More simple straightforward check the boxes fact based reviews with less commentary. It actually provided more useful info on what you could expect other than the white knight gushing over his 5 minutes of blind lust.

That said I think I'm done with Tna no matter how it re emerges. I've got my regulars and some of these other sites (like this one) provide good leads.

[Sugar Daddy PDX]

I didn't understand half of what you wrote, but your insights are very helpful to know which sites might be worth trying out for security and safety. I don't know, maybe TNA is getting the slap that they needed to upgrade, not only their security, but usability of the site. Using t. And. A felt like 1990's internet anyway. Maybe, just maybe, we'll get the platform with reviews that we have been hoping for? Then again, it will probably just be another shithole.

I work in software development. TNA was using code written at least a decade ago, if not longer. In the tech world, that is ancient. It was just waiting to blow up on them.

Not to disparage this site either, but we are also currently conversing in a site based on vBulletin version 4. 1. 4 that was released Thursday, 11th 2011. All these PHP sites that center around a single SQL database are pretty old monolithic structures.

If the TNA owners really want to build a robust site, they are going to need more than a week. I am guessing they will grab yet another PHP / JQuery / MySQL stack and push out another piece of crap. If you happen to be a PHP developer and are reading this. Yeah, PHP is crap now LOL. It is time to move on.

Looking at some of the new sites:

PriviateD is using some server side rendering with VueJS for the front end. It is also hosted on Amazon, looks like East Coast servers (maybe in Montreal? I thought all these sites were overseas? Well, AWS is a solid choice and PD is super performant. Maybe not the best layout, but they have a solid tech stack. Don't use your personal email addresses! It does use AWS Cognito for authentication, which isn't going to be hacked anytime soon (if ever).

Tryst is also running VueJS with their data server-sider rendering from a Ruby on Rails server. Rails is a step better than PHP and it is what powered Twitter for a while. It's not a bad choice for this use. These servers also seem to come out of Montreal using a web hosting domain service (mydomain). I would trust Tryst a bit less than PD. While Rails isn't bad, they could be using some old libs with security holes. But, more importantly, they are clearly running their own authentication servers which means trusting them to "do it right. " That said, someone there is smart as they do offer 2-factor auth leading to (probably) a focus on proper security.

There aren't many real-world uses for blockchain and distributed databases, as much as your crypto friends will argue. But a solid provider review board sure could be one of them.

[NachoCheese]

Sorry non-techies.

I work in software development. TNA was using code written at least a decade ago, if not longer. In the tech world, that is ancient. It was just waiting to blow up on them.

Not to disparage this site either, but we are also currently conversing in a site based on vBulletin version 4. 1. 4 that was released Thursday, 11th 2011. All these PHP sites that center around a single SQL database are pretty old monolithic structures.

The "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" operations mentality runs deep around these parts. Monoliths have the advantage of being much easier to stand up and manage compared to microservices, especially for a smaller team, and are good enough for the people managing these sites.

If the TNA owners really want to build a robust site, they are going to need more than a week. I am guessing they will grab yet another PHP / JQuery / MySQL stack and push out another piece of crap. If you happen to be a PHP developer and are reading this. Yeah, PHP is crap now LOL. It is time to move on.

They don't, they just want this all to go away and for business to return to usual.

PHP is still relevant. Version 8. 1. 7 released less than a month ago and it does fine when used responsibly either as a monolith or a microservice. Old PHP is crap.

PriviateD is using some server side rendering with VueJS for the front end. It is also hosted on Amazon, looks like East Coast servers (maybe in Montreal? I thought all these sites were overseas? Well, AWS is a solid choice and PD is super performant. Maybe not the best layout, but they have a solid tech stack. Don't use your personal email addresses! It does use AWS Cognito for authentication, which isn't going to be hacked anytime soon (if ever).

TNA moved to Amsterdam years ago when the feds decided to make backpages' day, and they're likely to keep their services and servers out of direct US federal jurisdiction because of that experience. The did finally shore up their opsec in that I can no longer find their origin server in 20 seconds. Good for them! Too much dependency on AWS could become a problem for PD depending on the legal climate. Imagine operating a federally prosecutable website and handing your entire user authentication system over to a US based multi-national corporation.

Tryst is also running VueJS with their data server-sider rendering from a Ruby on Rails server. Rails is a step better than PHP and it is what powered Twitter for a while. It's not a bad choice for this use. These servers also seem to come out of Montreal using a web hosting domain service (mydomain). I would trust Tryst a bit less than PD. While Rails isn't bad, they could be using some old libs with security holes. But, more importantly, they are clearly running their own authentication servers which means trusting them to "do it right. " That said, someone there is smart as they do offer 2-factor auth leading to (probably) a focus on proper security.

Ruby on Rails is an excellent choice here simply due to the rapid prototyping potential of the framework. Sure it trends towards being a monolith and a resource hog, but who cares when it basically stays out of your way and you can push changes live about as quickly as you can think of them. The rails ecosystem is quite strong here too without being node. Js crazy: static code analysis, library CVE auditing, robust and well-tested authentication frameworks are all there, easily integrable, auditable, and self-hostable. Rails developers are expensive though.

There aren't many real-world uses for blockchain and distributed databases, as much as your crypto friends will argue. But a solid provider review board sure could be one of them.

Yes and no. That's way too much big-brained effort for what amounts to digital pimping.

[Bobby ShafToe]

Could someone with more experience with alternatives to TNA than I create a list with pros and cons?

Private Delights.

Tryst.

P411.

Is TER still a thing?

Listcrawler.

Skipthegames.

Eroticmonkey.

Rubmaps.

Seeking.

Others?

[Mizunate]

I agree with all the criticism that TNA has received about their layout, platform, horrible review section, and now recently their security. But, as I have been looking around at other sites, I notice one thing that TNA had going for it over all the other sites, realism in the accounts you are looking at. At least with TNA, when I see a post that might interest me, I know it actually is someone that I can actually meet and is real. Sure, the photos might be outdated, services might be blah, but I at least know it is a actual provider.

Instead, with all these other sites, skip the games, erotic monkey, listcrawler, etc. It seems more times than not, the post you are looking at is a scam and not real. I know the the advice that if it is too good to be true, than it probably is, which does hold up fairly well. But isn't the point of this to find someone that is too good to be true, otherwise you wouldn't need the sites. I hate that everytime I see a post on these other sites that is of a "hot girl" I know it is fake, or I make a post here asking if anyone knows if it is real or not, which makes a lot annoyed, which I don't blame them. So, unless other sites can verify that whoever is making the posts is actually real, I think TNA is still unfortunately the best option.

When have you found a "too good to be true" provider on TNA? If we're comparing fake-girl-ads that are "too good to be true" to TNA providers, I just don't see it. TNA providers are real people, sure, but they're nowhere near as enticing as models on fake ads. Short of the random, visiting escort-service girls TNA providers are (barely) a step above the street-walkers forum here.

Moreover, TNA providers flake. A LOT. A LOT more often than alerts are posted about flaking / time wasting. Because those providers go nuts on TNA and the white knights and alt accounts step in. Sure the providers are real. And they really spun up a dozen alt accounts.

It's fair to say TNA is nice because the moderators verify providers are at least real people, but I don't think any platform can solve for a common sense approach to this hobby. Posting here for something you believe is pretty clearly fake / garbage is an exercise in futility for all of us.

I'd also point out the sites listed here are essentially known garbage heaps and there are better options available where you don't see the obvious fake posts, or at least as much of them.

[QuickFoot]

Instead, with all these other sites, skip the games, erotic monkey, listcrawler, etc. It seems more times than not, the post you are looking at is a scam and not real. I know the the advice that if it is too good to be true, than it probably is, which does hold up fairly well. But isn't the point of this to find someone that is too good to be true, otherwise you wouldn't need the sites. I hate that everytime I see a post on these other sites that is of a "hot girl" I know it is fake, or I make a post here asking if anyone knows if it is real or not, which makes a lot annoyed, which I don't blame them. So, unless other sites can verify that whoever is making the posts is actually real, I think TNA is still unfortunately the best option.

What I'm seeing is that Tryst and PrivateDelights are areas where the TNA members have moved to. All those other sites you listed have some "real" activity. But you are 100% correct in that they are 99% scams. When TNA had more honest reviews back in the day, it was far more helpful. If you want honest discussion, you come here. I know it won't happen, but if TNA actually put in a more advanced review system. That would help things so much. Split the ratings up so it isn't a single 5 star choice. With choices that help. "Location" is ok, but how about "Location Safety", "Location Cleanliness". Or "Services matched Expectations." Most of all, stop deleting any honest review that isn't positive or vague.

[QuickFoot]

I found this on twitter, a communication from tna, posted by a Seattle provider. I didn't get one but maybe some of you did? Pretty much what I thought.

https://twitter.com/sierracirrus/sta...RsffZAcRGVj1vA

I'd be leery of any email from anyone, or any invitation to join a "new" site. One criminal organization replacing another. Glad I got my regs.

I work in software development. TNA was using code written at least a decade ago, if not longer. In the tech world, that is ancient. It was just waiting to blow up on them.

Not to disparage this site either, but we are also currently conversing in a site based on vBulletin version 4. 1. 4 that was released Thursday, 11th 2011. All these PHP sites that center around a single SQL database are pretty old monolithic structures.

If the TNA owners really want to build a robust site, they are going to need more than a week. I am guessing they will grab yet another PHP / JQuery / MySQL stack and push out another piece of crap. If you happen to be a PHP developer and are reading this. Yeah, PHP is crap now LOL. It is time to move on.

Looking at some of the new sites:

PriviateD is using some server side rendering with VueJS for the front end. It is also hosted on Amazon, looks like East Coast servers (maybe in Montreal? I thought all these sites were overseas? Well, AWS is a solid choice and PD is super performant. Maybe not the best layout, but they have a solid tech stack. Don't use your personal email addresses! It does use AWS Cognito for authentication, which isn't going to be hacked anytime soon (if ever).

Tryst is also running VueJS with their data server-sider rendering from a Ruby on Rails server. Rails is a step better than PHP and it is what powered Twitter for a while. It's not a bad choice for this use. These servers also seem to come out of Montreal using a web hosting domain service (mydomain). I would trust Tryst a bit less than PD. While Rails isn't bad, they could be using some old libs with security holes. But, more importantly, they are clearly running their own authentication servers which means trusting them to "do it right. " That said, someone there is smart as they do offer 2-factor auth leading to (probably) a focus on proper security.

There aren't many real-world uses for blockchain and distributed databases, as much as your crypto friends will argue. But a solid provider review board sure could be one of them.

[InsaneDC]

I agree with all the criticism that TNA has received about their layout, platform, horrible review section, and now recently their security. But, as I have been looking around at other sites, I notice one thing that TNA had going for it over all the other sites, realism in the accounts you are looking at. At least with TNA, when I see a post that might interest me, I know it actually is someone that I can actually meet and is real. Sure, the photos might be outdated, services might be blah, but I at least know it is a actual provider.

Instead, with all these other sites, skip the games, erotic monkey, listcrawler, etc. It seems more times than not, the post you are looking at is a scam and not real. I know the the advice that if it is too good to be true, than it probably is, which does hold up fairly well. But isn't the point of this to find someone that is too good to be true, otherwise you wouldn't need the sites. I hate that everytime I see a post on these other sites that is of a "hot girl" I know it is fake, or I make a post here asking if anyone knows if it is real or not, which makes a lot annoyed, which I don't blame them. So, unless other sites can verify that whoever is making the posts is actually real, I think TNA is still unfortunately the best option.

I agree with everything you've written. Yet another example of the sorry state of adult entertainment in this country.