TNA OR Reviews

**Valinor** · 07-20-22 20:35

Originally Posted by Pussyholic [View Original Post]

This is the first time TNA has publicly acknowledged that IP addresses were stolen as part of the database, although the hackers mentioned this also in their blackmail note, without providing an example of the stolen IP data. I am not too worried as I have been diligent at always using a VPN, but I am also curious for how long TNA kept IP logs. Could somebody with a throwaway Twitter handle ask this question of @ tnaboard ?

Even if they have IP addresses, what can the world do with them? Sure, your ISP has the assignment, and other sites may aggregate and sell the data, but it's unlikely that it would ever actually point back to you personally. And even if it does, what proof is there that the data wasn't fabricated?

**Jumbotron** · 07-20-22 19:32

Originally Posted by Jd058 [View Original Post]

I don't think you can ever have a site that can stay 100% neutral. I think this site is great for spotting the bullshit and for men being men who frequent the business, even if it's not super welcoming to the ladies of the night. I think a TNA style site is great for covering the other half of the equation, giving the girls a 'safe place' so to speak. I've talked to one provider post-TNA shutdown, and she's mostly upset at not having a place to vet johns and their reputations. That and her fear of having her info hacked and everything distributed. But she's in a vulnerable position, being a regular gal who took up the trade to pay the bills last year. I think most of the TNA girls would just be annoyed at being doxxed. But those are also the girls who get the most complaints on here, so there ya go.

As for the rest. States-level rights rock (in my fence-sitting humble libertarian opinion, LOL) and I think you're far more likely to see some states where some things are restricted and some things are wide open, with the state next door being the opposite. Being able to choose to say, come to blue Oregon and enjoy the drugs and prostitution for a weekend (you know they're going to legalize it here, just give it time), then go home to your red state where there aren't homeless on every street corner, well, 'Murica! If that means folks have to travel out of state to buy mags and ammo OR to get their last-minute abortions and drugs, that's better than having restrictive country-wide rules that piss off one half and please the other half of the voting populace, and maybe this will start helping to cool things down instead of polarizing everyone to opposite ends of the spectrum once the true meaning of states rights soaks into everyone's collective consciousness.

Well said. Couldn't agree more. It's the 10th Amendment.

**Pussyholic** · 07-20-22 18:35

Originally Posted by PoorOldMan [View Original Post]

What did they steal? Usernames, email addresses, IP addresses, saved private messages.

This is the first time TNA has publicly acknowledged that IP addresses were stolen as part of the database, although the hackers mentioned this also in their blackmail note, without providing an example of the stolen IP data. I am not too worried as I have been diligent at always using a VPN, but I am also curious for how long TNA kept IP logs. Could somebody with a throwaway Twitter handle ask this question of @ tnaboard ?

**Pussyholic** · 07-20-22 17:06

Originally Posted by WarpFactor69 [View Original Post]

I wonder who the "she" is.

I am guessing it's her:

https://twitter.com/tat_dena

**WarpFactor69** · 07-20-22 13:17

Originally Posted by PoorOldMan [View Original Post]

From Twitter:What happened? On June 26th our site was hacked by a professional hacking group who claims to have been paid by a competitor to steal our database and publish it. When we activated our twitter account to let users know of our status we were verbally attacked andthreaten by a particular user who also knew details about our database that someone without direct access to it shouldn't know. This user has apparently been doing her best to shut down sites like ours that she's allegedly workedfor in the past. You can draw your own conclusions as to her involvement with this illegal attack

I wonder who the "she" is.

**Dexxzy** · 07-20-22 11:48

Originally Posted by PoorOldMan [View Original Post]

Use a VPN when connecting to the site (given our new security measures, you will likely need to make sure the VPN address is US-based). Do not save private messages you're not comfortable potentially being exposed. Instead copymessages you wish to save to your personal device and delete them from our system, and make sureyour personal device is secure. These tips should be applied to any site or service where you value your privacy above all else. Warm Regards, Admin.

Literally makes zero sense to block international VPN's.

Also deleting sensitive PM's aren't 100% because if the receiving side doesn't delete it, you're still f'ed.

Originally Posted by NachoCheese [View Original Post]

Besides confusing correlation with causation, your referenced URL has horribly low resolution for a state's political affiliation. "Red" vs "Blue" sounds like a roosterteeth production.

It would be much more meaningful to view this information as a gradient: how Republican or Democrat is a given state? Better yet would be a visualization and point plot of the federal aid spending breakdown and political leaning by county.

I agree with you, the more granular the data is, the more facts and trends you know. Let me know if you find information on such granularity as you described.

In the meantime, the best correlation we have is that, overall and with few exceptions, Red states are leeches subsidized by Blue states.

**PoorOldMan** · 07-20-22 07:53

From Twitter:

We have to delay the live date to Sunday the 24th as we need to ensure security of our site. We are almost here after days of testing. Here is what happend.

This is a copy and paste of the information on their Twitter account. Not going to take the time to put in the paragraphs or correct typos.

What happened? On June 26th our site was hacked by a professional hacking group who claims to have been paid by a competitor to steal our database and publish it. When we activated our twitter account to let users know of our status we were verbally attacked andthreaten by a particular user who also knew details about our database that someone without direct access to it shouldn't know. This user has apparently been doing her best to shut down sites like ours that she's allegedly workedfor in the past. You can draw your own conclusions as to her involvement with this illegal attack. The hackers also gained access to our backups and deleted them. Luckily we had an offline backup, although it is 2 weeks older than the date of the attack. So recent data will no longer exist. The hackers then started emailing certain users extortion attempts. *Note: Every single user who was extorted received the same threatening email and given the same Bitcoin address to submit payment to. This means that they have no way of knowing YOU sent them payment. So, they are either going to publish everything anyway, or they are not publishing anything and it was a scare tactic to steal money from people. In either case, you should not pay them a cent. What did they steal? Usernames, email addresses, IP addresses, saved private messages. They sat on this information for over a week. Given that this attack was specifically geared towards removing a platform from the internet that is intended to provide a safe environment for people to connect, and to extort it's users, we can be assured that anything they publish will have been modified by them to cause the most damage. Nothing published can be considered true or accurate information. What did they NOT steal? Real names, physical addresses, passwords, deleted private messages. As you know we do not collect personal information for Hobbyist accounts. Documentation submitted by providers for age verification never reaches our servers in any way and is stored offline, so none of this information was compromised.

Passwords were hashed and salted. This means it is very unlikely they would have access to this data. Still, in your best interest you should change your password to any site where you use the same username / email. Password combination. Private messages are permanently removed from the database when you delete them. What have we done about it? Since we've been down we've taken multiple steps to secure our platform, including but not limited to: Thoroughly reviewing and updating our codebase. Implementing high-end protections not normally required on a site like ours. Customizing additional server protections to work with some of the limitations we previously faced with our VB4 platform. Hiring our own team of professionals to attempt to hack into our system to ensure our efforts have been effective. What are we doing going forward? Even the biggest corporations with many more resources than us have been hacked in the past. Once someone becomes the target of this illegal act it's hard to say if anyone could 100% guarantee they could prevent it. We certainly never thought we were important enough to become the target for something as cruel as this. Now that we know there are forces out there who wish to weaken your support base, and who will go to great lengths and expense to do so, we will remain focused on monitoring and improving our defenses on a regular basis. We will also begin working on building out a new site over the coming months, which will provide even more benefits to our users. We have listed to your requested and these will all be taken into account with the new site. Some additions will include: Credit Card payments- Blocking of users-There will be more and as you request them will we liaise with our developers to have all these implemented. We initially stated that we will be live on Wednesday but as need to extend this till Sunday (24th) as we do not want to "jump the gun". We will only put the site online only if it it secure and we can assure members that the site will be secure from future attacks which come Sunday we are confident we will be.

We are extremely apologetic and we will do better to ensure our members can feel safe to again use our platform. This has been a wake-up call and we have taken this seriously and we will assure members that moving forward, the privacy and security of both members and our site is paramount. What can you do? If you're concerned about your anonymity, start operating using best practices if you haven't already: Create and use an email address not associated to your personal life in any way. Use a VPN when connecting to the site (given our new security measures, you will likely need to make sure the VPN address is US-based). Do not save private messages you're not comfortable potentially being exposed. Instead copymessages you wish to save to your personal device and delete them from our system, and make sureyour personal device is secure. These tips should be applied to any site or service where you value your privacy above all else. Warm Regards, Admin.

**NachoCheese** · 07-20-22 03:01

Originally Posted by k__rat [View Original Post]

Speaking of online security why does this board not use https? It's a glaring security issue that be fixed cheaply by just provisioning an SSL cert. As it is right now all traffic to this board including username / password are sent in the clear so it would incredibly easy for a malicious actor to sniff traffic including PMs. I'm not sure how to contact the admins to ask about it.

I always thought it was because this is clearly an NSA / Malaysian Special Branch front. Seriously though, while not using TLS isn't nearly as dangerous as it seems, it's 2022, and free Lets Encrypt certificates fall from the skies like mana from heaven. Either that or the management could voluntarily MiTM all of us by using Cloudflare.

Either way, I just wish they'd be smarter about their daily backups. It's 2022, there is zero excuse for even a second of regularly scheduled downtime.

**NachoCheese** · 07-20-22 02:40

Originally Posted by Dexxzy [View Original Post]

Oh please. It's states rights for me but not for thee mentality. Most Red states can only survive by leeching off wealthy blue states.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/sta...al-government/

Besides confusing correlation with causation, your referenced URL has horribly low resolution for a state's political affiliation. "Red" vs "Blue" sounds like a roosterteeth production.

It would be much more meaningful to view this information as a gradient: how Republican or Democrat is a given state? Better yet would be a visualization and point plot of the federal aid spending breakdown and political leaning by county.

**ZaviJava** · 07-19-22 21:36

Originally Posted by k__rat [View Original Post]

I'm not sure how to contact the admins to ask about it.

A2 is very good about replying to any forum related questions you might have.

Send him a pm at Admin2.

**Dexxzy** · 07-19-22 16:36

Agreed with what Quickfoot said. T nA was imperfect, but still had the best organized review system where if you read inbetween the lines, and avoid the white knights, you could make an informed decision.

Originally Posted by Jd058 [View Original Post]

As for the rest. States-level rights rock (in my fence-sitting humble libertarian opinion, LOL) and I think you're far more likely to see some states where some things are restricted and some things are wide open, with the state next door being the opposite. Being able to choose to say, come to blue Oregon and enjoy the drugs and prostitution for a weekend (you know they're going to legalize it here, just give it time), then go home to your red state where there aren't homeless on every street corner, well, 'Murica! If that means folks have to travel out of state to buy mags and ammo OR to get their last-minute abortions and drugs, that's better than having restrictive country-wide rules that piss off one half and please the other half of the voting populace, and maybe this will start helping to cool things down instead of polarizing everyone to opposite ends of the spectrum once the true meaning of states rights soaks into everyone's collective consciousness.

Oh please. It's states rights for me but not for thee mentality. Most Red states can only survive by leeching off wealthy blue states.

https://www.moneygeek.com/living/sta...al-government/

**Jd058** · 07-19-22 15:59

Originally Posted by QuickFoot [View Original Post]

While the reviews were curated and you had to wear a Sherlock hat to figure out who was BS and what service to expect. TNA at least offered enough information to make a poorly informed decision....With women's rights being eroded, we are father than ever to have sex worker's professions legal. Honest reviews are a form of protection, just like TNA had a way for providers to report clients to avoid. While it wasn't formal. There was a slight form of client review on TNA as well. It would be nice to have a site that has some of the TNA features (reviews, ads, forums), but that is operated by a group looking to keep everyone safe. Not just curating out any negative review or white-knighting.

I don't think you can ever have a site that can stay 100% neutral. I think this site is great for spotting the bullshit and for men being men who frequent the business, even if it's not super welcoming to the ladies of the night. I think a TNA style site is great for covering the other half of the equation, giving the girls a 'safe place' so to speak. I've talked to one provider post-TNA shutdown, and she's mostly upset at not having a place to vet johns and their reputations. That and her fear of having her info hacked and everything distributed. But she's in a vulnerable position, being a regular gal who took up the trade to pay the bills last year. I think most of the TNA girls would just be annoyed at being doxxed. But those are also the girls who get the most complaints on here, so there ya go.

As for the rest. States-level rights rock (in my fence-sitting humble libertarian opinion, LOL) and I think you're far more likely to see some states where some things are restricted and some things are wide open, with the state next door being the opposite. Being able to choose to say, come to blue Oregon and enjoy the drugs and prostitution for a weekend (you know they're going to legalize it here, just give it time), then go home to your red state where there aren't homeless on every street corner, well, 'Murica! If that means folks have to travel out of state to buy mags and ammo OR to get their last-minute abortions and drugs, that's better than having restrictive country-wide rules that piss off one half and please the other half of the voting populace, and maybe this will start helping to cool things down instead of polarizing everyone to opposite ends of the spectrum once the true meaning of states rights soaks into everyone's collective consciousness.

**TmiSmith2000** · 07-19-22 11:31

I imagine with Tnas return tomorrow, maybe, the providers will have raised rates to compensate for lost work time. I'll never understand that concept. I missed 3 weeks of work so I'm going to double my rates To make up for it then complain when no one sees me. If you need $2000, it's better to see 10 dicks than struggle to see 5 at $400.

Smart providers will lower rates.

**QuickFoot** · 07-18-22 15:06

Originally Posted by DrexDiggler2 [View Original Post]

With them being hacked so thoroughly, why are people wanting to rush back? Lmao Idiots in my opinion.

While the reviews were curated and you had to wear a Sherlock hat to figure out who was BS and what service to expect. TNA at least offered enough information to make a poorly informed decision.

There are not nearly enough reviews posted here, while this site seems to have the most honesty of all the ones in PDX. It is also somewhat hard to find reviews here, as some will review with a link that will eventually stop working, the incorrect provider name or old name that you might not know, or just a review in a reply to someone else that is super hard to find via search.

Private Delights seems to have a handful of reviews. They are more useless than TNA was. Some people think Dominos Pizza is "great", so when all these reviews basically say "it was a great time" or "she was great" I have to think are they talking fast food with food poisoning later, or gourmet dinner with dessert? The only think I have to say about those reviews is that they are "great".

Tryst seems to have a lot of provider activity. If you search for an area as half the search results will be providers who one day might visit PDX. The rest are often providers that are well known, but for some reason I think Tryst is adjusting their rates up because they are often a couple bills higher on this site than the same ad elsewhere.

Even E-Alligator has a few reviews, that also seem more honest than most other sites. But as that site is basically all fake ads, it is sort of pointless to check other than entertainment.

The various review sites that have a pay-to-read fee seem to all be at a price just high enough to be annoying. Maybe they are super informative and helpful?

With women's rights being eroded, we are father than ever to have sex worker's professions legal. Honest reviews are a form of protection, just like TNA had a way for providers to report clients to avoid. While it wasn't formal. There was a slight form of client review on TNA as well.

It would be nice to have a site that has some of the TNA features (reviews, ads, forums), but that is operated by a group looking to keep everyone safe. Not just curating out any negative review or white-knighting.