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10-31-18 00:15 #18
Posts: 1575Giving them a ride
Originally Posted by Gastonian4 [View Original Post]
I try to play it safe but sometimes this hobby just gets a little dangerous for me. All of these girls are on drugs, mainly heroin. And they use the money we give them to buy heroin.
GB40.
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10-30-18 21:07 #17
Posts: 204That's Good Advice
Originally Posted by Gastonian4 [View Original Post]
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10-30-18 17:58 #16
Posts: 618Getting arrested
One cardinal rule I have had over the years is to NEVER EVER take a girl to supposedly meet someone who owes her money or who supposedly she owes money to, because nearly 100 percent of the time she is buying drugs and you have no idea if the place is being monitored by LE and you could get pulled over and arrested by LE for buying drugs, certainly a far worse charge than any prostitution related charges and harder to get out of. I tell the girl I will drop you off wherever you want but you're not getting back into the car and I'm not taking you anywhere else, period. I won't even do it for my long time girl I've known for 12 years. Only exception is if she wants to get a soda at a convenience store but it's my choice what convenience store. The LE targeting drug houses don't have any sense of humor whereas them pulling you over with a girl you just picked up that has drugs on her you might get a break. I've only been pulled by the Gastonia LE twice in the last 20 years and both times involved being in a seedy area letting a girl out and back in. No harm no foul tgey just made me uncomfortable. Don't let a girl bullshit you into taking them somewhere just refuse to do it.
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10-30-18 16:30 #15
Posts: 214I would be more concerned with catching something rather then getting caught.
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10-30-18 09:41 #14
Posts: 40This too has crossed my mind far too many times in the last decade. Things have gotten tougher in the last year or so and girls are FAR more cautious and afraid than I've seen them in the last 10 years. I can't say what happens when you're arrested, but if I had to guess my gut tells me that LE isn't fucking around with adults doing adult things and paying adult prices. I believe they are targeting SWs, Traffickers, and the like who's business revolves around drugs and heavy crime. Many of these professional high-end ladies ($300+/ hr) are so far ahead of the lower end of the spectrum that they are smarter than LE and their targets.
It's like anything else, you get what you pay for. Is it expensive to hire these high-end girls? Absolutely. Is it worth it? Depends on what you're wiling to risk. I'm not an advocate for SW's or high end girls because the end result is the same. Many hobbyists cannot turn their little head off when it comes to pussy (ANY pussy) and end up getting themselves in a jamb. Are the girls from SA worth it? Probably, but rather than spending the money up front you have to sort and cater to them and spend countless hours back and forth and emails and texts and then you're still not guaranteed even getting your dick hard much less sucked and fucked LOL.
Stay away from trouble. Period. Use your head (both of them). If you get locked up--post it on here and let us all know how it is on the other side.
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10-30-18 09:27 #13
Posts: 204Originally Posted by DeathByStereo [View Original Post]
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10-30-18 09:19 #12
Posts: 204Hash Tag Me Too
Originally Posted by DeathByStereo [View Original Post]
I think they will continue to do stupid shit like mailing out "Dear John" letters to to people that have been seen in SW areas, but not necessarily guilty of anything. I think they will continue to treat guys like they are stupid by sending them to "John School", and talking about STDs like anyone in this hobby doesn't already know they exist. I think they will continue to go back and forth on whether or not hookers are criminals, or victims, while failing to realize that they are neither. (Why? Because they have failed to make the proper distinction there on that for decades.) I think they will continue to harass women found in SW areas regardless of whether they are doing anything or not. And I think whether a guy's intention was to get sex in picking someone up, or just to simply to give someone a ride, it will always be assumed that it was for sex regardless of what the case may be. And I think they will continue to charge guys who never do drugs with drug possession if someone they pick up brings it into their car, while thinking that charging them with that is the right thing to do. Even if that completely ruins their job prospects in certain fields. The scales of justice, when it comes to our hobby, I think, are broken. Things that should not be, are.
So, I think that leads to a fork in the road in terms of decision making to where the only real choices are try to either eliminate your risks, or at the very least, try to mitigate them as much as possible.
As far as eliminating risk, as a single guy, the only real solution I can think of to the problem, is to get a girlfriend, not necessarily for love, but for sex, and when you get tired of her, either cheat or find someone else if she does not allow you to be with other people. Same process for married guys, though it might be a bit more complicated. Either way, that might result in a lot of women getting emotionally hurt as things end, but it would seem the system the politicians designed and created, and that the LEOs are willing participants of would, prefer that outcome over one in which deception, and emotional manipulation weren't necessary to get sex. At least it would seem that way when you weigh it out in terms of possible long term consequences.
That I realize, is also a lot more work as probably the easiest way to get pussy is just to pick up someone willing to sell it. And then wham bam, thank ya mam. As simple as that. So as far as mitigating risk, I think the best thing to do would be to avoid areas where the risk of arrest is going to be the greatest. Although I've picked up people in Charlotte, my opinion of Charlotte of as a city as that it's just too risky. And I'd say that would probably go for most big cities because big cities usually have big budgets, which means lots of LEOs, which means lots of risk. A better choice would be a small town out in the middle of no where that has a SW scene, a weak LE presence and appear to be about 20 years behind the times to where the type of LEO you'd be liable to have to worry about would be someone like Barney, or Gomer off of the Andy Griffin show. An example of that would be a few towns out in Texas, Arizona, West Virginia, North Dakota, and California that no one has ever heard of.
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10-29-18 14:03 #11
Posts: 95Jail wifi
Hard to post from jail! LOL.
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10-29-18 13:49 #10
Posts: 35Originally Posted by DeathByStereo [View Original Post]
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10-28-18 00:35 #9
Posts: 264Originally Posted by Jammer434 [View Original Post]
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10-28-18 00:26 #8
Posts: 264Thanks to everyone who has shared so far. It's interesting to hear what everyone's thoughts and experiences are.
I used to exclusively hobby with girls from backpage and do the AMP thing. Since the shutdown, the quality of the affordable online escorts has dramatically suffered while all of the risks have increased. Add in the fact that reliable online fact checking resources (aside from this site) have also been shut down, and it makes responding to an online ad quite risky. Especially if the girl hasn't been reviewed here on the board.
These changes pushed me more towards the streetwalker scene since the quality of the escorts I was seeing was pretty much on the level of a street girl, except I couldn't see them until I got to whatever notel they were working out of. When you cruise the streets, you're more vulnerable in certain ways, but much less vulnerable in others. I've lived an interesting life so I'm pretty street smart. I've been somewhat of a fish in water, but I can't say that I don't miss relaxing in the privacy of a room and enjoying my session.
I guess I'm just feeling a bit jaded over the way things are concerning our hobby these days and it only seems to be getting more risky. More likely to be robbed, more likely to be arrested, more likely to have a terrible experience etc. I have the money to spend on higher end escorts, but I really don't want to. I've never been into the "high end" girls because there were always reliable mid level girls who were just as good for a fraction of the price. I mean let's face it, the results are the same whether you get a. 20 SW or a $5. 00 call girl.
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10-27-18 11:22 #7
Posts: 204Originally Posted by Vick1957 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Bouinage [View Original Post]
I think the best argument that they can try to come up with is that our hobby feeds other crimes, but to me, that argument makes about as much sense as blaming Steve for what Rob does, in which I view Rob as being responsible for what Rob does - not Steve.
Originally Posted by Bouinage [View Original Post]
And as you mentioned in Thailand, things are different. One of the reasons why things are different over there that I would point out, is that the primary religion is is Buddhism. Same goes for some other countries like Japan, where the primary religion is Shinto. The Shinto faith does not regard sex as bad or taboo either. So I think that has a lot to do with why people have such intolerant attitudes towards sex here.
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10-26-18 20:52 #6
Posts: 2506Thanks!
DBS,
Thanks for bringing this up on the board. I know many a mongerer has had this fear, including me. In fact I was so worried with this fear it caused me to drop off the monger boards for years. I went from posting (on multiple boards) a day to complete absistance. I began to fear that my posts could be used against me in some form or fashion. I contacted a lawyer to find out how I could protect myself. He said I needed to stay away from Backpage. LOL. I read a few reports that LEO used these boards to help track down traffickers and sites like BP helped to consolidate those type of people, bs or not, its def more work to find some tail. As mentioned earlier, I can't believe it takes so much effort to get my dick sucked. In Thailand they have establishments dedicated solely to this desire. Its like an AMP, walk in choose a girl, pay money, do the deed and leave. 20-25 minutes top. Here I can spend hours researching, vetting, and contacting a provider.
To answer your original question, I know of only one guy busted on seeing these ladies. He was driving down the road and saw a hot woman on the side of the road. He stopped and committed the cardinal sin, asked how much for a sexual act. BUSTED. To this day he will not pick up a SW. That was over 20 years ago! He had to pay a fine and some civic service. But it shook him to his core.
I've had a dui before, but I feel that a escort bust would be far more embarrassing. Why is that?
Answering a biological need shouldn't be this difficult!!
Also, I wanted to say thanks to Deathbystereo for creating dialog on the board, I've noticed since my return there is not as much free flow of info as there was. I completely understand that and don't hold that against anybody, but its cool that the board is being used for its intended purpose, the exchange of info for getting some action (no matter how tangential LOL).
To support what was mentioned earlier, if i were to be busted I would be completely stunned. I would like to think I would post the info on what got me busted, however there may be regulations stating you are not allowed to interact on these boards. Or they may pull the ads so quickly that the info is outdated. I'm sure LEO reads these boards, why wouldn't they? This also begs the question: should you have a lawyer on retainer? I am single so only shame and embarrassment I would face is my mom and work lol. I have mad respect for the married mongers who troll the pages for tail. I would think that an AMP would be the safest bet?
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10-26-18 20:31 #5
Posts: 591Only This week.
Originally Posted by Jammer434 [View Original Post]
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10-26-18 20:14 #4
Posts: 204Why Hobbyists Don't Report Stings That They've Been Busted In
Originally Posted by DeathByStereo [View Original Post]
For those that do know about the board, I'd suspect such a person would be in such a state of shock and disbelief that they got busted, and caught up into what they were thinking that led up to it, that it wouldn't occur to them to report what happened to the board because for one they'd be caught up in their own little world, having thoughts like "What's going to happen to me? "What the hell was I thinking? Etc. And two that they might be worried that doing something like that might draw additional unwanted attention to them from LE if nothing else.
I'm not sure that it would occur to such a person that an obstruction of justice charge might come of it. I don't know that they would have necessarily thought that far ahead, but I think if LE can pick a law to use to go after someone, that they would, and in this case, an obstruction of justice charge might be something they'd try. And that's also assuming the monger just doesn't call it quits, and not report the sting, because I think for at least some people, after the first time they get arrested, they don't go back to doing the same things because the first time was such a horrible experience for them. When it happens to some people they might be of the mindset that the world is about to end when it happened or that there life is over, or ruined even though it may not necessarily be that bad. But when a person is really stressing out that much about something, I don't know that they would naturally think of warning someone else as much as they would be on focusing on themselves at that time, and then later on, they might have completely forgotten about the board.
So I think it would be great if fellow hobbyists did give us a heads up when and if they got arrested, but like I said, if they are too caught up in their own thoughts, and internal monologue, they probably aren't going to be thinking about the board too much. Also, if they are stuck in jail for a while, it's possible that they might not get out until the sting is already done and over with.