Sugar Baby Guide

[Mike Yepthatsm]

I've used HotelsByDay and Dayuse. On Dayuse you can book a hotel room from 7 am-1 pm, 9 am-5 pm, or 4 pm-11 pm. HotelsByDay was from 10 am-4 or 5 pm I think. Both have apps you can download. There aren't a lot of hotels that participate though.

Kinda unique situation. I'm in GR often to get a business going, but I typically stay my business partner's guest suite (his house / family) - so hosting is not an option. Considered getting an apartment / condo but only here a few days a month.

Hotels are an obvious option, but I often schedule SB meetings mid-day so typical checkin times stink. Any experience here with Airbnb or other for single day options?

DM me if better for you. Thanks.

[Samath2624]

Kinda unique situation. I'm in GR often to get a business going, but I typically stay my business partner's guest suite (his house / family) - so hosting is not an option. Considered getting an apartment / condo but only here a few days a month.

Hotels are an obvious option, but I often schedule SB meetings mid-day so typical checkin times stink. Any experience here with Airbnb or other for single day options?

DM me if better for you. Thanks.

[StevesMilin]

So long time since I last posted, but I wanted to do a follow up to serve as data for someone else who might be starting and is looking for more direction.

When I started off I came to this site and all of you were really helpful in keeping me safe and successful, so hopefully I'm adding positively here.

Some things might be repeated or be obvious to some but you never know.

So I think this hobby can be like gambling sometimes, as in never spend what you're not willing to lose. For me I don't want to just get off but I want a certain experience, so with that the work load goes up along with associated costs.

I definitely started off with a scarcity mindset and pulled to quick on the line whenever I had a bite. I overpaid sometimes, and also got robbed once (long story not getting into it).

My biggest and best pieces of advice are: to set your allowance and hold FIRM. Maybe you allow for one exception, but name that allowance and don't budge on that either. Next, be nice! Even when they're rude and mean, just be nice and exit quickly and quietly from the convo. Plenty of more fish in the sea. The good ones want to feel safe and have a connection, and that's hard to fake on your end. So try and actually be nice and caring, but hold your boundaries! Finally, be honest. People respect honesty and it helps with making women feel more relaxed and safe. It's really all that easy. Some additional things I've done is that I acted the way I would with an escort, and when I had to cancel last minute, I provided a reason, a reschedule date / time and a fraction of compensation (this I did with only some after reading the situation).

So what are the benefits of doing all this? Who knows, your experience may be wildly different than mine. But I know that I've been able to see some women that were "unresponsive" to others, and I've successfully turned one into a fwb sub, 2 others to a every now and then fuck buddy, and lowered the allowance across the board to a much lower rate over time. I consistently get a few hours, some overnights, multiple go's, and plenty of other benefits that I am confident I wouldn't have gotten if I wasn't so honest and nice. Currently I have the sub, 1 sb, and 2 fwb. And I'm always seaching for more! Remember there's always more fish in the sea! Happy Fishing!

Well said Anon guy. Great approach. I've been a SD for six years. Very time consuming and need to be nimble to dodge bullshit and time / money wasters. But the gems are worth it.

SS.

[Anonwmlatam]

So long time since I last posted, but I wanted to do a follow up to serve as data for someone else who might be starting and is looking for more direction.

When I started off I came to this site and all of you were really helpful in keeping me safe and successful, so hopefully I'm adding positively here.

Some things might be repeated or be obvious to some but you never know.

So I think this hobby can be like gambling sometimes, as in never spend what you're not willing to lose. For me I don't want to just get off but I want a certain experience, so with that the work load goes up along with associated costs.

I definitely started off with a scarcity mindset and pulled to quick on the line whenever I had a bite. I overpaid sometimes, and also got robbed once (long story not getting into it).

My biggest and best pieces of advice are: to set your allowance and hold FIRM. Maybe you allow for one exception, but name that allowance and don't budge on that either. Next, be nice! Even when they're rude and mean, just be nice and exit quickly and quietly from the convo. Plenty of more fish in the sea. The good ones want to feel safe and have a connection, and that's hard to fake on your end. So try and actually be nice and caring, but hold your boundaries! Finally, be honest. People respect honesty and it helps with making women feel more relaxed and safe. It's really all that easy. Some additional things I've done is that I acted the way I would with an escort, and when I had to cancel last minute, I provided a reason, a reschedule date / time and a fraction of compensation (this I did with only some after reading the situation).

So what are the benefits of doing all this? Who knows, your experience may be wildly different than mine. But I know that I've been able to see some women that were "unresponsive" to others, and I've successfully turned one into a fwb sub, 2 others to a every now and then fuck buddy, and lowered the allowance across the board to a much lower rate over time. I consistently get a few hours, some overnights, multiple go's, and plenty of other benefits that I am confident I wouldn't have gotten if I wasn't so honest and nice. Currently I have the sub, 1 sb, and 2 fwb. And I'm always searching for more! Remember there's always more fish in the sea! Happy Fishing!

[HomeRunner]

Sounds like you are asking for advice on how to close the deal after you've already made contact with a SB? IMHO, you are either good at picking up women or you are not. Obviously a good looking and charismatic guy will have an easier time. However money talks. Once you start talking to them off of the site just be direct, state what you are wanting and how much you have to offer in return. Withhold something so you have room to negotiate. You are competing against other Daddies so if you go too slow you may miss out. If you misread her and move too fast then just find another Baby. Just remember to not talk money via the site chat.

If you want to get better at the personal level with women, my recommendation is to read up on dating tips. It's not too late to learn. Back in the day I learned a lot from Men's Health magazine. Lots of advice not only how to get in shape but how to dress the part, what to say to women, how to act, and being better in bed for HER. The last part has served me well, especially when I've picked up younger women who haven't had great sex or an attentive appreciative BF. Give them something amazing and they'll want more. Or just throw money at 'them.

Thanks everyone for the advice. I really do appreciate it.

I think you're right, closing the deal is the hardest part for me. I can talk to them just fine about anything when I do a first meet, but when it's time to talk about the business part I choke up. It's like I get shy about what I want which probably causes them to control the flow of the situation. You are correct Libertas, I made that mistake hard by providing the allowance before. I definitely won't do that again haha. I'll try to be more direct of the situation and keep the reigns on my side. If things go south I just got to politely back away. Still trying to work the kinks in this situation but I learned a few methods for now.

Also PrivateParts, you're right about the charisma. It helps a lot to look the part of a SD. I'm actually in my early thirties and I would say I am fit (not athletic) enough to look decent. I notice members are more willing to play with you just for that. My advice fellow gents is to workout, it's good for self esteem, mental health and of course an easier time with the ladies.

But Remember money talks the most.

Mike Yepthatsm-I've been on the Richmond forum as well. Great minds think alike.

Closing the deal is.

[PrivateParts]

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I also wanted to ask I'm still trying to do my research but is there a more in depth guide or examples on what to say exactly to your SB to move from talking to moving to the FC. I think I am still bad at moving the process along and I just assume my SB knows what we call want. Or is there more examples on how you guys established to your SB that you're looking for a physical relationship right away without creeping them out.
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Sounds like you are asking for advice on how to close the deal after you've already made contact with a SB? IMHO, you are either good at picking up women or you are not. Obviously a good looking and charismatic guy will have an easier time. However money talks. Once you start talking to them off of the site just be direct, state what you are wanting and how much you have to offer in return. Withhold something so you have room to negotiate. You are competing against other Daddies so if you go too slow you may miss out. If you misread her and move too fast then just find another Baby. Just remember to not talk money via the site chat.

If you want to get better at the personal level with women, my recommendation is to read up on dating tips. It's not too late to learn. Back in the day I learned a lot from Men's Health magazine. Lots of advice not only how to get in shape but how to dress the part, what to say to women, how to act, and being better in bed for HER. The last part has served me well, especially when I've picked up younger women who haven't had great sex or an attentive appreciative BF. Give them something amazing and they'll want more. Or just throw money at 'them.

[Mike Yepthatsm]

There is a lot of info in the Richmond Virginia forum on this site. I found a lot of very helpful info there when I first started out.

I will definitely say that one of your mistakes was providing her money right off the bat. I would definitely curb that behavior now. As for the rest of your inquiries. I was in your shoes a long time ago when I started this game also. These gals on SA or other SB sites want a guy that is direct and lays out clear expectations. I'm very up front with what I'm looking for and don't hide behind ambiguity. If she's not up for it, I just walk away. There are other women. This is how I've found a majority of my success on there. I've done the whole chase part of meeting a few times to develop a connection, but I clearly advise I'm not providing any money on my end until things are mutually beneficial.

A lot of the knowledge on SA out there is shared via PMs. If you ever need anything more specific or help with anything feel free to reach out. As to the other people reading this post. Stop contacting me to share or trade SBs. I'm not interested. I prefer to seek out my own and as many have stated here before, they're not baseball cards you trade. You need to develop them yourselves. I will share information on whether a profile was trying to scam me or was the real thing. Happy holidays all.

[Libertas]

Hi there, first time poster and amateur SA member but long term hobbyist. I found that there was a SB guide and wanted to see if I can ask for advice. Seeing providers has been my thing for a long time but I wanted to try the SB thing for a bit. I tried to follow the guidelines here as much as possible from you experts. Got a good amount of hits talking online than a few phones and a rare amount of successes. I don't care much if they flake on me or have an unrealistic high demand for their time because I usually just politely back away from them before wasting anymore effort but I encountered a potential SB that I am unsure is stringing me along.

I think this SB is in the category of "Hey, let's build off one another for a while before we do anything intimate". I took that as a let's meetup the first time without doing anything than the second or third we can be more bold. We had a good amount of things to talk about and she is able to host which is a criteria of mine. I think I screwed up by giving her an allowance without doing anything for the first meet. The second time I tried to schedule with her she told me I can only stay an hour, I did not like that so I told her we can try next time. We tried to schedule again but this time she wanted to know what we were going to do. I more or less told her friends with benefits and she got offended saying I was too cryptic or that we need to progress over time.

Never had to deal with a situation like this before. Maybe I am too new but I still want to work this out because she lives near my area. Should I still try and purse and talk to her, any advice on this or should I chalk it up as a scam and move on?

I also wanted to ask I'm still trying to do my research but is there a more in depth guide or examples on what to say exactly to your SB to move from talking to moving to the FC. I think I am still bad at moving the process along and I just assume my SB knows what we call want. Or is there more examples on how you guys established to your SB that you're looking for a physical relationship right away without creeping them out.

Thanks for the help and I appreciate this thread for it's guides it's been fun and helpful.

I will definitely say that one of your mistakes was providing her money right off the bat. I would definitely curb that behavior now. As for the rest of your inquiries. I was in your shoes a long time ago when I started this game also. These gals on SA or other SB sites want a guy that is direct and lays out clear expectations. I'm very up front with what I'm looking for and don't hide behind ambiguity. If she's not up for it, I just walk away. There are other women. This is how I've found a majority of my success on there. I've done the whole chase part of meeting a few times to develop a connection, but I clearly advise I'm not providing any money on my end until things are mutually beneficial.

A lot of the knowledge on SA out there is shared via PMs. If you ever need anything more specific or help with anything feel free to reach out. As to the other people reading this post. Stop contacting me to share or trade SBs. I'm not interested. I prefer to seek out my own and as many have stated here before, they're not baseball cards you trade. You need to develop them yourselves. I will share information on whether a profile was trying to scam me or was the real thing. Happy holidays all.

[HomeRunner]

Hi there, first time poster and amateur SA member but long term hobbyist. I found that there was a SB guide and wanted to see if I can ask for advice. Seeing providers has been my thing for a long time but I wanted to try the SB thing for a bit. I tried to follow the guidelines here as much as possible from you experts. Got a good amount of hits talking online than a few phones and a rare amount of successes. I don't care much if they flake on me or have an unrealistic high demand for their time because I usually just politely back away from them before wasting anymore effort but I encountered a potential SB that I am unsure is stringing me along.

I think this SB is in the category of "Hey, let's build off one another for a while before we do anything intimate". I took that as a let's meetup the first time without doing anything than the second or third we can be more bold. We had a good amount of things to talk about and she is able to host which is a criteria of mine. I think I screwed up by giving her an allowance without doing anything for the first meet. The second time I tried to schedule with her she told me I can only stay an hour, I did not like that so I told her we can try next time. We tried to schedule again but this time she wanted to know what we were going to do. I more or less told her friends with benefits and she got offended saying I was too cryptic or that we need to progress over time.

Never had to deal with a situation like this before. Maybe I am too new but I still want to work this out because she lives near my area. Should I still try and purse and talk to her, any advice on this or should I chalk it up as a scam and move on?

I also wanted to ask I'm still trying to do my research but is there a more in depth guide or examples on what to say exactly to your SB to move from talking to moving to the FC. I think I am still bad at moving the process along and I just assume my SB knows what we call want. Or is there more examples on how you guys established to your SB that you're looking for a physical relationship right away without creeping them out.

Thanks for the help and I appreciate this thread for it's guides it's been fun and helpful.

[Monger01]

Hey Monger, your post reminded me that I should post an update. SA did respond but a copy of the card and the receipt from its purchase was not enough. So my epic run on SA was derailed. After what happened last spring I was very careful to not do anything that would violate the terms of use. The only thing I can imagine is that the fact that I used a different card from the one that I signed up with caused the problem. Here is the response that they sent me:

"Unfortunately, the attached file cannot be used to complete our verification process. This is because the file doesn't contain an image of your government-issued photo I'd.

In order to regain access to your profile, you must provide the requested documentation: a valid government-issued photo I'd, displaying both a clear photo (matching that of the account holder) and a clear / legible date of birth. Other personal information on the I'd can be blurred / crossed out if preferred. ".

No SA, you are not getting my I'd or real name. I'd be shocked if 10% of their customers use real info and they have to know that. If my situation isn't an anomaly they won't be in business for long.

I'd? That's crazy to expect.

[WaltK]

Two part story: on the one hand I have had a fantastic month, on the other is a really disturbing development from SA. The good is that I have been on a roll on SA for the past month. Met ten women, all were DTF and better looking than anyone posting on STG. Three are candidates for my personal top 10; there is nothing below a solid 9 in my top ten. We are talking about objectively flawless, young 20's hardbodies. Yes it has cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. I have already put one of the 10's on an allowance that covers her rent for what so far is unlimited fucking so life is good for Walt.

Overall I would classify this month as a resounding success and probably should have taken a break and enjoyed what I already have but I am a greedy fucker so I attempted to renew my premium membership to close the deal on a really hot one that I had been messaging. As soon as I clicked "submit" on the payment I was logged out and received an email saying that I was suspended. Knowing that I had not done anything to violate their Terms of Service of I emailed customer support, below is the response that I received:

Our records show that your transaction was declined due to a higher than normal Potential Fraud Score that we received from our processor. You were suspended to prevent any billing fraud. Please understand that this was done both for your protection as well as our other members.

In order to clear the hold on your account, we will need a copy of your government-issued I'd. Please reply to this message with the requested item attached. Once we receive this information and verified your identity, we would then be able to reinstate your account. We greatly appreciate your cooperation in this matter.

Let me know if you need help with anything else!

All the Best.

Sara.

Seeking Support.

Why does SA want my I'd? Rhetorical question but SA (or their card processor) can tell that the card was pre-paid. Obviously not my first rodeo, I am not giving them my I'd and my payment was from a gift card that was paid in cash. I replied with an email detailing my objection but I doubt that it will go anywhere. Really frustrating that I will have to start over again but I really don't see any alternatives for finding what I am looking for. Rant over but I will post an update if they respond to my email.

Man, reading this makes me miss the SB game even more. I don't have the time or the money to do this like I did back when I strated this thread. I will say SA was not so harsh back then. Profiles and chat were pretty specific then with no ban threats. But legally speaking I get why they cracked down. The fate of the BP guys was a warning to others.

Hey Monger, your post reminded me that I should post an update. SA did respond but a copy of the card and the receipt from its purchase was not enough. So my epic run on SA was derailed. After what happened last spring I was very careful to not do anything that would violate the terms of use. The only thing I can imagine is that the fact that I used a different card from the one that I signed up with caused the problem. Here is the response that they sent me:

"Unfortunately, the attached file cannot be used to complete our verification process. This is because the file doesn't contain an image of your government-issued photo I'd.

In order to regain access to your profile, you must provide the requested documentation: a valid government-issued photo I'd, displaying both a clear photo (matching that of the account holder) and a clear / legible date of birth. Other personal information on the I'd can be blurred / crossed out if preferred. ".

No SA, you are not getting my I'd or real name. I'd be shocked if 10% of their customers use real info and they have to know that. If my situation isn't an anomaly they won't be in business for long.

[Monger01]

Two part story: on the one hand I have had a fantastic month, on the other is a really disturbing development from SA. The good is that I have been on a roll on SA for the past month. Met ten women, all were DTF and better looking than anyone posting on STG. Three are candidates for my personal top 10; there is nothing below a solid 9 in my top ten. We are talking about objectively flawless, young 20's hardbodies. Yes it has cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. I have already put one of the 10's on an allowance that covers her rent for what so far is unlimited fucking so life is good for Walt.

Overall I would classify this month as a resounding success and probably should have taken a break and enjoyed what I already have but I am a greedy fucker so I attempted to renew my premium membership to close the deal on a really hot one that I had been messaging. As soon as I clicked "submit" on the payment I was logged out and received an email saying that I was suspended. Knowing that I had not done anything to violate their Terms of Service of I emailed customer support, below is the response that I received:

Our records show that your transaction was declined due to a higher than normal Potential Fraud Score that we received from our processor. You were suspended to prevent any billing fraud. Please understand that this was done both for your protection as well as our other members.

In order to clear the hold on your account, we will need a copy of your government-issued I'd. Please reply to this message with the requested item attached. Once we receive this information and verified your identity, we would then be able to reinstate your account. We greatly appreciate your cooperation in this matter.

Let me know if you need help with anything else!

All the Best.

Sara.

Seeking Support.

Why does SA want my I'd? Rhetorical question but SA (or their card processor) can tell that the card was pre-paid. Obviously not my first rodeo, I am not giving them my I'd and my payment was from a gift card that was paid in cash. I replied with an email detailing my objection but I doubt that it will go anywhere. Really frustrating that I will have to start over again but I really don't see any alternatives for finding what I am looking for. Rant over but I will post an update if they respond to my email.

Man, reading this makes me miss the SB game even more. I don't have the time or the money to do this like I did back when I strated this thread. I will say SA was not so harsh back then. Profiles and chat were pretty specific then with no ban threats. But legally speaking I get why they cracked down. The fate of the BP guys was a warning to others.

[StevesMilin]

Interested in this lady. More of a MILF than most here. Intriguing.

Has anyone connected with her?

SS.

[Libertas]

Sorry to hear about your payment troubles, but glad to hear about your successes on SA. There's a reason why I moved over to that type of game half a decade ago. Glad to hear that you got a few keepers!

Two part story: on the one hand I have had a fantastic month, on the other is a really disturbing development from SA. The good is that I have been on a roll on SA for the past month. Met ten women, all were DTF and better looking than anyone posting on STG. Three are candidates for my personal top 10; there is nothing below a solid 9 in my top ten. We are talking about objectively flawless, young 20's hardbodies. Yes it has cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. I have already put one of the 10's on an allowance that covers her rent for what so far is unlimited fucking so life is good for Walt.

Overall I would classify this month as a resounding success and probably should have taken a break and enjoyed what I already have but I am a greedy fucker so I attempted to renew my premium membership to close the deal on a really hot one that I had been messaging. As soon as I clicked "submit" on the payment I was logged out and received an email saying that I was suspended. Knowing that I had not done anything to violate their Terms of Service of I emailed customer support, below is the response that I received:

Our records show that your transaction was declined due to a higher than normal Potential Fraud Score that we received from our processor. You were suspended to prevent any billing fraud. Please understand that this was done both for your protection as well as our other members.

In order to clear the hold on your account, we will need a copy of your government-issued I'd. Please reply to this message with the requested item attached. Once we receive this information and verified your identity, we would then be able to reinstate your account. We greatly appreciate your cooperation in this matter.

Let me know if you need help with anything else!

All the Best.

Sara.

Seeking Support.

Why does SA want my I'd? Rhetorical question but SA (or their card processor) can tell that the card was pre-paid. Obviously not my first rodeo, I am not giving them my I'd and my payment was from a gift card that was paid in cash. I replied with an email detailing my objection but I doubt that it will go anywhere. Really frustrating that I will have to start over again but I really don't see any alternatives for finding what I am looking for. Rant over but I will post an update if they respond to my email.

[WaltK]

Two part story: on the one hand I have had a fantastic month, on the other is a really disturbing development from SA. The good is that I have been on a roll on SA for the past month. Met ten women, all were DTF and better looking than anyone posting on STG. Three are candidates for my personal top 10; there is nothing below a solid 9 in my top ten. We are talking about objectively flawless, young 20's hardbodies. Yes it has cost me a lot of money but I have no regrets. I have already put one of the 10's on an allowance that covers her rent for what so far is unlimited fucking so life is good for Walt.

Overall I would classify this month as a resounding success and probably should have taken a break and enjoyed what I already have but I am a greedy fucker so I attempted to renew my premium membership to close the deal on a really hot one that I had been messaging. As soon as I clicked "submit" on the payment I was logged out and received an email saying that I was suspended. Knowing that I had not done anything to violate their Terms of Service of I emailed customer support, below is the response that I received:

Our records show that your transaction was declined due to a higher than normal Potential Fraud Score that we received from our processor. You were suspended to prevent any billing fraud. Please understand that this was done both for your protection as well as our other members.

In order to clear the hold on your account, we will need a copy of your government-issued I'd. Please reply to this message with the requested item attached. Once we receive this information and verified your identity, we would then be able to reinstate your account. We greatly appreciate your cooperation in this matter.

Let me know if you need help with anything else!

All the Best.

Sara.

Seeking Support.

Why does SA want my I'd? Rhetorical question but SA (or their card processor) can tell that the card was pre-paid. Obviously not my first rodeo, I am not giving them my I'd and my payment was from a gift card that was paid in cash. I replied with an email detailing my objection but I doubt that it will go anywhere. Really frustrating that I will have to start over again but I really don't see any alternatives for finding what I am looking for. Rant over but I will post an update if they respond to my email.