Angel Relaxatioin

[Azngy]

Decided to try Sara / Sarah this time out. IMO, she isn't a looker, is about 5'2", about 100#, guess early 30's (someone said 26? Thin build, natural b's and typical flat asian butt. She said she's Chinese. Minimal conversation. Shower was average. Massage was lame, fake massage rubbing over the towel. Service BBBJ was good, about the only thing worthwhile. No DFK or LFK and didn't want any contact near face. CFS, CG, MS, DG and wanted everything gentle. F 6, B 6. 5, A 6, S 4 Standard fees.

[LocaLoppa]

Most AMP went react to dick heads who ran off without tipping or paying. Had several locals who dressed in aloha shirt and long pants like they came from work they just run after fucking girls. Wasn't tourist, was locals. I seen the photos. Had one haole at Happiness who walked out and said he was going to ATM to get money--never come back. You are right, money first is different for old timers. But can understand why they doing this. Those dickheads should be sent to Memphis, LOL.

Angel has always been pay upfront. Maybe cause they stress catering to tourists. But Angel is not the only AMP demanding money first. Crystal and Osaka have the same MO. And don't forget the Chinese houses.

But there are advantages to upfront. You don't have to worry about your money going missing during the TS. You don't have to suffer the indignation from forgetting to tip the girl at the end. And saving the best for last, you save money by having to pay only $$ instead of $$. 1 total.

[Ajarn]

Not only do they want the tip upfront but everything covered this place totally sucks. Why would anyone even think of going here you could go to Happiness, you could go to Lemon Blossom, Blue star, Asia Spa, places goes on and on why do people come here to get ripped off and covert service what's going on some people must not read that this place is bogus compared to all the other Korean AMP massage places, Yuna at happiness is $210 that's including everything no rules girlfriend experience. Do you tip after you're done my God why do people go to these places that make you pay upfront I don't understand. This place is a rip off. , when the girl says pay me tip upfront, you should immediately walk the hell out of the place for God sakes. What are you thinking?

Angel has always been pay upfront. Maybe cause they stress catering to tourists. But Angel is not the only AMP demanding money first. Crystal and Osaka have the same MO. And don't forget the Chinese houses.

But there are advantages to upfront. You don't have to worry about your money going missing during the TS. You don't have to suffer the indignation from forgetting to tip the girl at the end. And saving the best for last, you save money by having to pay only $$ instead of $$. 1 total.

[Lknfrpssy]

You need to hook me up.

Brudah, all the places you listed as alternatives, except for lemon blossom, are not known for women under the age of 40. Probably older. Even LB is in short supply of providers under 35. Why do I pay 260 and upfront, because I prefer younger girls. K-girls now work the LA / OC / Vegas escort apartment circuit. Those prices start at 320, upfront, heavy screening. The only AMP workers left are c-girls and even they are balking at AMP work (at least the young millennials and Gen Zers). 150 plus house fees after the fact is from a bygone era. The domino pizza commercial comes to mind, "pay more, get less. ".

Welcome to 2023.

[ClaraForever]

Brudah, all the places you listed as alternatives, except for lemon blossom, are not known for women under the age of 40. Probably older. Even LB is in short supply of providers under 35. Why do I pay 260 and upfront, because I prefer younger girls. K-girls now work the LA / OC / Vegas escort apartment circuit. Those prices start at 320, upfront, heavy screening. The only AMP workers left are c-girls and even they are balking at AMP work (at least the young millennials and Gen Zers). 150 plus house fees after the fact is from a bygone era. The domino pizza commercial comes to mind, "pay more, get less. ".

Welcome to 2023.

There are many c incall apartment girls there too. Less screening but that means "they take risk of raid". Most that have got raided last year were Chinese spot where does not ask photo is and credit card with name. Short term rental then disappear as some did in cc.

What incall in CA is good for new clients is that mongers can know what they will get exactly. Here some "VIP" guys boast and that may not be helpful to new clients.

[Sidekick501]

Not only do they want the tip upfront but everything covered this place totally sucks. Why would anyone even think of going here you could go to Happiness, you could go to Lemon Blossom, Blue star, Asia Spa, places goes on and on why do people come here to get ripped off and covert service what's going on some people must not read that this place is bogus compared to all the other Korean AMP massage places, Yuna at happiness is $210 that's including everything no rules girlfriend experience. Do you tip after you're done my God why do people go to these places that make you pay upfront I don't understand. This place is a rip off. , when the girl says pay me tip upfront, you should immediately walk the hell out of the place for God sakes. What are you thinking?

Brudah, all the places you listed as alternatives, except for lemon blossom, are not known for women under the age of 40. Probably older. Even LB is in short supply of providers under 35. Why do I pay 260 and upfront, because I prefer younger girls. K-girls now work the LA / OC / Vegas escort apartment circuit. Those prices start at 320, upfront, heavy screening. The only AMP workers left are c-girls and even they are balking at AMP work (at least the young millennials and Gen Zers). 150 plus house fees after the fact is from a bygone era. The domino pizza commercial comes to mind, "pay more, get less. ".

Welcome to 2023.

[Keye33]

But I'm still learning the island. I have noticed that the entire AMP scene here in Hawaii is more YMMV than any other place I've ever been. Most places have goods and bads as a majority on either side. Here on the island it seems like so many proivders are 50/50 when talking about service / attitude. Not all but many.

Somewhat new to the state as well and agree w/ JasonHungHung regarding the YMMV for girls here. In NorCal and NYC, it's very common that you pay upfront, and usually the provider rarely shorts you on service. Like for some girls advertised as PSE, it's like everything on the menu, MSOG, but no trips to Greece. (eg. 2020lsc dot com / Rates were $$.4 or $$.6 around July 2022 and they are usually young 20's to early 30's, and kpop looks). Then you can tip on top of that if you enjoyed the service.

One thing that's different in HI vs CA. The Chinese are usually at the massage places, so you pay a HF upfront and then negotiate xtras on the flip. Whereas the KGirls are in apartments, and you pay one donation upfront. In HI, Kgirls are at MP's, and Chinese are at apts.

Happy mongering,
K.

[Ck813]

Seems like Covid made providers think they are so scarce they can do and charge whatever they want. Way back CBJ, CFS no DFK but we had the one hour nose shower and could fuck hard with no complaining. Now 45 minutes BBBJ cfs but 45 minutes. Providers now only care about money, well most of them.

Desperate guys will go and who knows, maybe that will be you and I and a lot of us in the near future. BBFSCIP is not for me anymore, I say now but when I'm there who knows. Fuck I just saw someone and I broke out. Would a condom have protected me, I don't know! Your cock is in the pussy but the scrotum and everything else is touching their skin which is their vagina. Fuck suck enjoy the hobby or don't. But I ain't paying no $260, I will pay for a BBBJ cfs $200 but other then that ahh forget it unless it's my special girl.

[JasonHungHung]

Not only do they want the tip upfront but everything covered this place totally sucks. Why would anyone even think of going here you could go to Happiness, you could go to Lemon Blossom, Blue star, Asia Spa, places goes on and on why do people come here to get ripped off and covert service what's going on some people must not read that this place is bogus compared to all the other Korean AMP massage places, Yuna at happiness is $210 that's including everything no rules girlfriend experience. Do you tip after you're done my God why do people go to these places that make you pay upfront I don't understand. This place is a rip off. , when the girl says pay me tip upfront, you should immediately walk the hell out of the place for God sakes. What are you thinking?

But I'm still learning the island. I have noticed that the entire AMP scene here in Hawaii is more YMMV than any other place I've ever been. Most places have goods and bads as a majority on either side. Here on the island it seems like so many proivders are 50/50 when talking about service / attitude. Not all but many.

[MikeKpi]

Not only do they want the tip upfront but everything covered this place totally sucks. Why would anyone even think of going here you could go to Happiness, you could go to Lemon Blossom, Blue star, Asia Spa, places goes on and on why do people come here to get ripped off and covert service what's going on some people must not read that this place is bogus compared to all the other Korean AMP massage places, Yuna at happiness is $210 that's including everything no rules girlfriend experience. Do you tip after you're done my God why do people go to these places that make you pay upfront I don't understand. This place is a rip off. , when the girl says pay me tip upfront, you should immediately walk the hell out of the place for God sakes. What are you thinking?

Which girl?

[Hunt638]

Not only do they want the tip upfront but everything covered this place totally sucks. Why would anyone even think of going here you could go to Happiness, you could go to Lemon Blossom, Blue star, Asia Spa, places goes on and on why do people come here to get ripped off and covert service what's going on some people must not read that this place is bogus compared to all the other Korean AMP massage places, Yuna at happiness is $210 that's including everything no rules girlfriend experience. Do you tip after you're done my God why do people go to these places that make you pay upfront I don't understand. This place is a rip off. , when the girl says pay me tip upfront, you should immediately walk the hell out of the place for God sakes. What are you thinking?

[JasonHungHung]

She sounds like fun, where is this place?

I'm surprised how open this place is in the public but you can find it easily on Google. It's located at an extremely popular spot. I had to take recommendations from here also and went to see Lily over the weekend. I like naturals over MMs but hers are done nice enough. That ass though to me is perfect. I was expecting an overdone ass but it's not at all and it looks and feels so good. I was 8 or so minutes early and she came in shortly after I got there and I handed her 220 because she had a great intro with looks and attitude. She then took 3 or 4 minutes to give Mama the money then came back asked about shower and massage. I declined both and told her I might take awhile. She said "Oh so play now?! OK!" She went to put cover on as usually I decline but I didn't mind this time. She gave a 5-6 minute CBJ with a lot of DT and BLS that felt really good and after that it was 25 minutes of DFK, CG, DS, MISH, then when she wrapped her legs around my neck I was done. Afterward she cleaned up and gave a bunch of peck kisses she said we still have time. She massaged me while talking for about 10-15 minutes and I was roaming the whole time during that. I can tell it's YMMV because she talked about some of the rude customers she had that said they expected shit because they read it off here. Don't expect anything or you will be let down. She also said she goes on vacation a lot and will be leaving soon. Oh, on the way in I saw a super short girl with big tits and mama was calling her something with an S like Sally or Sa li. I might see her just off looks later on.

[Toronto CA]

Had the pleasure of seeing her Fri. Much mahaloz to this board for all the strong recommendations. SPot on!

I'd describe her as 5"'4, early 30's, thin build. MM D cups, and her butt looks like ginormous like she had a BBL or something. A few tasteful tats on her back. She said she's Thai / Chinese mix. Awesome attitude. She tries to engage in convo. Very cheerful. Massage is ok, not super strong, but def better than 'llight touch' fake massage. Service wise. CBJ (BBBJ offered), DFK, light DATY, CG, MS, DG. Everything covered. HF 60, Tip 140 standard +20.

She said she'll be here till the 11th.

F 8. 5, A 10, S 9, B 9.

FWIW. Ratings are subjective. Lily is normally not my type as I don't prefer T&A super accentuated. If a girl is GND, but has good attitude and offers DFK, I'm skewing everything else up higher.
If any brothas have recs on a spinner (5'3" and shorter) w/ DFK, please lemme know!

She sounds like fun, where is this place?

[Keye33]

Lily will b available for a few more weeks. She's really great!

Had the pleasure of seeing her Fri. Much mahaloz to this board for all the strong recommendations. SPot on!

I'd describe her as 5"'4, early 30's, thin build. MM D cups, and her butt looks like ginormous like she had a BBL or something. A few tasteful tats on her back. She said she's Thai / Chinese mix. Awesome attitude. She tries to engage in convo. Very cheerful. Massage is ok, not super strong, but def better than 'llight touch' fake massage. Service wise. CBJ (BBBJ offered), DFK, light DATY, CG, MS, DG. Everything covered. HF 60, Tip 140 standard +20.

She said she'll be here till the 11th.

F 8. 5, A 10, S 9, B 9.

FWIW. Ratings are subjective. Lily is normally not my type as I don't prefer T&A super accentuated. If a girl is GND, but has good attitude and offers DFK, I'm skewing everything else up higher.
If any brothas have recs on a spinner (5'3" and shorter) w/ DFK, please lemme know!

[Big Gulp]

If you talking about Lily (aka Helen) the one with the Botox ass and bolt on tits, she's on the mainland according to Sarah and will be back next month. But she said she was coming back in January and she not back yet so who knows.

AE.

Mahalo, botox ass and bolt on tits, uh huh we talking about the same Lily. Also didn't know she had a nickname or is that her real name, Helen?